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When will Israel respond?
Moshe Elad
Published: 13.11.08, 19:10
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1. sane arabs wonder
elliot ,   usa   (11.13.08)
you dont have to be arab to wonder! i wonder how long israel can have a truce with terror while wanting others to help blocade them--eventually some one-a fool i'm afraid' --will say why not invite these terrorists into polite society at the expense of jewish interests.
2. Sane Arab world? Where's that?
Zion   (11.13.08)
3. Israel can't respond
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.13.08)
The Left can't respond because the last war they started led to a rout of the IDF, 150 dead Israelis and the release of Child Murderer Samir Kuntar. The Right won't start because Hamas forces are all stationed in civilian areas. Any war will lead to many "civilian" Arab deaths which the Left will use to encourage isolation of Israel in order to regain power. The only question is when will the Left publicly admit that the Ethnic Cleansing of Gaza from Jews was a bad idea.
4. Look, World know quite a long time-Israel place for suckers.
Bob ,   Moscow   (11.13.08)
5. Mr. Elad
Ricardo Macher ,   KarneiShomron Israel   (11.13.08)
I agree 100% with you! I just don't understand how is it that you don't see what everybody sees. Kadima (Peres included) is a gang of people with love for power and no guts (that's why Sharon chose them!) they care about one more day of glory in their fancy chairs and forget completely about National Interests! How can we accept as PM somebody that is not ashamed that his children run away from the country in order not to serve in the IDF? Leaders must be first of all patriots, not clever money seekers!
6. Why step on its fleas? ...kill the dog !
Moshe Israel ,   tivon   (11.13.08)
Israel does not want to fight on many fronts simultaneously. As long as there is no existential threat from hamas, hizballah, Syria ..............Israel can retrain its ground forces for guerilla warfare. 100's of snipers, mines, rockets and missiles have a certain advantage against conventional infantry , artillery and armor that WAS the backbone of the IDF . Remember that guerilla warfare makes use of Arab civilians: a million women and children ! The new IDF, new ground tactics will present a problem to the small, primitive guerilla forces of hamas, hizballah. High tech offensive weapons may have already discouraged Syria ..Iran is next. moshe Israel
7. sane arabs
colin   (11.14.08)
Israel has become the laughing joke of the whole world.The yellow cowardly present leaders are a batch of arse licking egomaniacs turning a proud nation into clowns.The arabs are not the only people who wipe thier eyes .The modern western babies from Bush,Rice,Blair down have obtained the wishes of the anti-Israel.anti semetic public. The feeling at present is apathy as was before the Germans executed the holocast.First bring the jews to thier knees -then cut of the heads.All troubles world over are now the jews and Israel Read the press and see how the jew hating media will twist every sadness to be the fault of the jew whether wars, between nations, sunamies, or the financial collapse of the world.
8. I blame the Israeli Left
DaveBT ,   UK   (11.14.08)
The Diaspora should be allowed to vote !!!! We are the voice of reason .
9. Israel doesnt fight becaue the left has an election to loose
zionist forever   (11.14.08)
Any will Olmert had to fight to defend Israels interests were left in Lebanon along with our national pride. Today Olmert is terrified of the prospect of getting into fight under any circumstances which is why after Lebanon the first thing he did was started to chase Assad around like a lost puppy and if Abbas wanted something Olmert said you got it. He hoped that would take the heat off him at home with things like Winograd, his various coruption scanals and he had visions of Nobel Peace Prizes with his name on it because he knows that any Israeli PM who sells out to the arabs on any front is garunteed a Nobel Prize and their place in history. Later there was the so called truce and the reason for that one was to allow Olmert to continue to sell out the country and also the thinking ws if the Gaza border was quiet then the demands for a general electon would end and for a time the demand for an election did quieten down, nobody liked Olmert but some people stopped demanding elections Certainly before an election the last thing Olmert, Livni & Barak want is for this artifical quiet to end because the public generaly trust Bibi more on security issues than they do the others and so this could play into his hands. Better to turn a blind eye whenever possible to terror attacks and try get Hamas not to carry our more attacks eithert because Hamas also would far prefer sell out Livni to Natanyahu so they want to do whatever they can to get her the job but they are allso trying to balance their reputation and can't be seen as to friendly with Israel. We neeed to get that fear back in their hearts and a good start would be to end the empty promises hurt them both economicly and physicly. Before this politcly motivated truce agreed by Olmert Hamas were on their knees because of the economic blockade, all their guns were useless, the people on the street had lost confidence in Hamas and so they wanted to pick a fight so they could still be the brave revoltionries and they wanted another one of their famous tempory hudnas Israel is so famous for accepting while haas strenghen themselves for round 2.
10. Making the I.D.F. a credible deterrent once again is a ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (11.14.08)
Making the I.D.F. a credible deterrent once again is a national imperative. When Israel will integrate its Jewish identity into its national life, it will easily define its enemies, all its enemies, and will restore the spirit of the I.D.F and its deterrence. Until and unless we can have confidence in the IDF once again, real independence cannot be much more than a slogan. Independence is not created by poses and declarations, but by military power, economic prowess and national determination. Independence is also a function of the realities of international geopolitics. Some details about the I. D. F . at : http://xrl.us/oq28g
11. Israel will respond when we finally have a leader with some
Roxy ,   Israel   (11.14.08)
Until Israel has a leader like Generals Grant or Patton ,people who had the guts to take the war to the enemy Israel will not respond harshly to Hamas. To quote General Grant" the Art of War is simple enough, findout where your enemy is, get to them as soon as you can,strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving"! This is what Israel must do vis-vie Hamas in Gaza, but right now our leaders are cowards and rather let the residents of Sderot andAshkelon suffer daily katusha fire inorder to keep the"cease fire" alive,But in my Opinion those rockets have already broken the cease fire, and the gov. should get up from its slumber and start protecting its citizens in the south! To quote Patton " If we have to fight them.now is the time to do so, from now on we will get weaker in their eyes and they will grow stronger", stop allowing Hamas to egt away with the rocket fire, they perceive us as weak and will continue to attack! Give us a Leader with Courage like General McArthur who said" A true leader has the confidence to stand alone,the courage to make tough decisions, and the compassion to listen to the needs of others. He doesn't set out to be a leader,but becomes one by the equality of his actions and the integrity of his intent"! That is the kind of leader we need here, we need to take the fight to the enemy on his turf to prevent rocket fire and other attacks on our turf,so get some Kahonies and stop them Hamas dead in its tracks!
12. As long as Kadima is in power, there will be NO response!The
world is laughing at ,   us.Rueben,Israel   (11.14.08)
13. Israel is near its end
John ,   London,UK   (11.14.08)
When will Israel respond? Sane Arab world fails to understand why Israel refrains from hitting Hamas? Answer is quite simply really. Israel is scared of Hamas. After IDF for crushed at the hands of Hizbollah, it is not too affraid to take on Iranian backed Hamas. Israel only takes on the weak. Never the strong. British newspaper are full of ridicule for Israel's once mighty army. Israel which could once take on 3 Arab nations and win in 6 days, was not incpoitent and spent force. It was now unable to defeat one nation in 2006. Hizbollah's victory over Israel is now recognized by every thinking person. Even Israelis know that they lost the war. Which is why defence minister was sacked. So was the top general. Israel needs to establish its lost reputation or else Iran will come and drive all Jews ito the sea. Iran-Syria-Lebanon axis is not the real player in the region. Only a blind person would fail to see it. So, either put up or shut up. Israel cannot have it both ways. it now must seek dialogue with its arch enemies. Its the only way it can hope to survive. No other way left.
14. israel response
alexi   (11.15.08)
Israel will not fight under olmert who is an absolute coward. Barak will not fight as he is mentally detached, dosen't feel like it. Livni will not fight because she is awkward and timid. Likud will fight and the arabs are going to get their stuffings kicked out of their asses.
15. i wonder
nahla ,   jerusalem   (11.15.08)
the arabs are not the arab leaders or that who are on the top of arab goverments .. did you learne that from the second lebanon war ..... arabs are people with power or without .rulling or not ... it is the fact from the start till now and to the end of the time
16. To #13
Ze'ev ,   Haifa   (11.15.08)
Thank G-d we have enough sane, Torah observing, people ready to take arms and beat the sh*t out of the Islamofascists. Keep on dreaming, we'll meet after elections.
17. #13...Wait for your surprise fool.
JAyjay ,   Israel   (11.15.08)
ISrael isnt finished, just the controlling left, with Olmert in charge, are to cowardly to respond to the threats....but soon they are finished!. Wait till after Feb. and see what Bibi will do. You Arabs are shit scared of him! And Israel never lost the last Lebanon war like you want people to believe. Neither side won, but by far, Hezbollah suffered way more casualties and damage!
18. When, Israel, when will you fight back?
marlene ,   Philadelphia, USA   (11.15.08)
First of all, "sane" arab world is an oxymoron. Secondly, "when" is a good question. G-d says: "If your enemies will not make peace with you, VANGUISH them". Duh! Read the Bible and do what G-d tells you to do or you will NEVER prevail. These evil arab muslim occupiers are not giants, and even if they were, "G-d is with you." Amen.
19. PSALM 83 WAR !!
BRAD E. MOSS ,   ELKO, NEVADA   (11.15.08)
ISRAEL DOES FIGHT, AND SHE DOES WIN, WITH THE HELP OF GOD ! READ YOUR TORAH, YOU WIN!!
20. Insanity
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (11.15.08)
I can now understsn why the Israeli academia has deserved such oppobrium from the rest of the world. Israel blockades the Gaza strip and starves the population and this clown says that Arabs will approve the invasion and more killinf of Palestinians. The lies Zionists tell themselves are endless. I suoise these 'sane' Arabs also approve of the settlers and the bombing of Leabanese civilians during 2006.
21. Hamas are the growing power & Israel is in decline
zionist forever   (11.16.08)
The courage and will to fight our enemies is gone. Israel will not fight for a whole variaty of reasons almost all of them political. There is an election coming, the country trusts Natanayahu more than Livni or Barak whose campaigns are all based on the peace process and if there is any fighting to be done it harms their chances. Even the centre right has been brainwashed by the cult of oslo and are more concerned with the peace process than security. The US is hoping that if they put the squeeze on Israel then the islamic world wont want to carry out terror attacks against the US anymore & with a desire to get out of Iraq the more the US hurts Israel the better for them. The arabs have started playing smart politics & know how to tell the west what they want to hear while Israel is run by fools. Although war is not good I think the only thing thats going to rapair Israels repuatation & even boost morral amongst the IDF is for them to fight and win a conventional army. The IDF will feel like soilders again not a police force. Even operations like Entebbe would be unthinkable today instead we would negotiate indefaintly. The 6 day war first strike tactic would never be used today, now politicians have to be pushed into retaliating against an attack, pre emptive strikes are against the current political thinking. Israels security is on the decline & there is no sign of that changing anytome soon. We can buy new toys but they are just objects to look at if you dont have the courage to go to war. The courage is gone and if we dont get it back the country will soon be gone because we will just surrender to every demand our enemies make because we are afraid of a confronation, if things dont change Hamas will defeat Israel completly not because they are the better fighters but simply because we have lost the will to fight anymore.
22. the differance
maha ,   cairo   (11.16.08)
when the idf lost thewar it means lost of all israili but when the army of the arab lost the war it means only the army not the all arab it is not becouse the numbers or the weapons it becouse of believing of the right .. arabs believe that it is palastine this believe do not change from 1948 or 67 or 82 or oslo or lebanon wars ... but israil from the start from the time of bengorion and golda ,dayan eshkol do not believe only that it is the power to win not it is the right to win
23. no doubt hitler wondered why it was easy to round us up also
yahn goodey   (11.16.08)
olmert/peres/livni/barak and now apparently also with netanyahu climbing aboard to help our enemies by making us look weak they seem to have forgotten the promise---never again. our neighbors have only 1 goal in our regards----extermination.i fear by the time our "leaders" wake up that it might almost be too late.
24. SANE ARAB WORLD?
tony ,   paris   (11.17.08)
Pardon my ignorance; But am I reading correctly? Colonel Moshé Elad,"Sane Arab World" Objects to Hamas conduct?,Is this a joke.?Why in heavens name are the "SANE ARAB COUNTRIES,"waiting for Israel to make a move? WHy don't these " sane Arab Countries make THeir MOVE"and Force this terrorist entity to buckle up,Want to know why,,??They are scared ,of the Hamas ,they are afraid of being attacked on their own territories;Just like the Lebanese People,who unfortunatley have the fathers of terrorisme "Hizbollah".The Arab world ,like Syria,are the first to condemn Israel,when Israel takes "disproportionate "Action,when her citizens are attacked; Assad is the Entity of stupidity incarnate.The Hamas openly defies Israel ,and when Israel reacts,The Arab world and Amnesty and HRW cry WOLF, Israel has not ceased to be a "threatening Israel" Israel is reacting Logically and with Human dignity,but maybe "stupidly,"to These abomnible terror attacks.The Arab world knows that Israel has the capacity to respond in the most severe way to acts of terrorism.But refrains from doing so ,because of the palestinian population.The Hamas wants Israel to react.The Hamas WANTS Israel to strike at the population,so that they can use this against the Israelis,with the cooperation of the Int Community. So yes in a way Israel is like a giant with its hands tied behind its back. So until the "SANE ARAB WORLD" wakes up from their STUPER,The Vile entity Hamas ,will continue to NARGE the Israelis and the rest of the "SANE WORLD"with these attacks,knowing that the SANE ARAB WORLD,and the INT COMM will just sit back ,watch and then in the end BLAME ISRAEL,
25. #13
tony ,   paris   (11.17.08)
If your name is John,and you do live in London,Well as an English Person,You should know about World domination,huh??But lets not talk about the English,Lets get at your blatent Anti-semitisme,.and Utter ignorance about Middle east Politics.,and your BLIND ATTITUDE about Iran &Syria,Yes I do agree with you,Only a BLIND idiot cannot see this axis.Another minor detail "JOHN",Israel did not fight the Lebanese People,during the last Israelo-Lebanese conflict,It fought a cowardly blood thirsty,Terrorist entity,called Hizbollah,that entered onto Israeli territory killed and kidnapped Israel soldiers;and cowardly sneaked back into Lebanon,OOOOH Such Brave men.The Lebanese people did not ask the Hizbollah to attack Israel,The Hizbollah are not even a chosen Political party of the Lebanese Government;They are a religeous extremist fundamentalist terror group who came to "dominate the Lebanese people after imposing their Irainian and syrien,sponsored terror, Israel might have lost that one battle,because Israel refused to fight the Lebanese People; How can you fight terrorism when those terrorists are fighting from amidst the population? and they called themselves Freedom Fighters?,These cowards fired Rockets from private gardens,from apartment balconies,from living rooms,,from inside schools,,,Hospitals;,I could go on,and on,But "JOHN" people lik,e you would only close their eyes again and see the Arab side to this conflict;The problem with the likes of you "JOHN" is that you are Anti- semitic,and you refuse to look further than your nose,So I guess i'll just finish off here,and say ,PLEASE "Shut Up",if you know not what you are talkin about
26. some insight
Samer ,   Canada   (11.21.08)
It is truly unfortunate how unbelievably ignorant many of you are. Just as easily as you say there is no such thing as a sane arab, i could attest to the fact that a merciful caring jew does not exist. But i do not because i am no ignorant. There isn't one innocent side to this conflict. Governments and figure heads from both sides perpetuate hatred through propaganda and obviously, the majority of arabs and jews buy into it. I am a young Lebanese man and i have witnessed atrocities commited by israeli soldiers as i'm sure young israeli men have witnessed of lebanese militia. I do not hold the israeli race or the jewish religion accountable, i hold that soldier accountable for what he has done, as will God. It is not these heads of government that are suffering from these wars, it is individuals like you and I. I am hoping that this short message will cause you to reflect on how Governments, from both ends of conflict, are using you to further this hatred for eachother in hopes of achieving their personal interests. Samer
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