Reasons: The country is becoming more secular. We all see how people get married quickly and cheaply in Cyprus while the Rabbinate refuses to convert people so people are beginning to disregard it.

or, should i say, i thank him.

Messianic Jewish, to celebrate the weekly Shabbat the Messiah they claim to worship did, as well as the Holy Days Yeshua observed and the written laws he kept perfectly and without sin. How sad for the leaders of the Christian faiths to teach a Laodician Christianic, a Mithraism cult using the name of a Jewish Messiah but not obeying the written commandments as best they can. The Bible they read says Laodicians are totally apostate. Yeshua the Messiah they call Jesus Christ said those who love him will obey his commandments. But they prefer to follow the commandments of men. Mark 7:7 said, "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrine the commandments of men." They read the Bible and think the Sabbath is on the first day like the followers of King Jeroboam who worshipped on the eighth day (Sunday). How can they be so blind, unable to observe even the Sabbath of the Lord? Satan is a deceiver and has corrupted the faith of Yeshua until it is not recognizable. Yeshua grafted Gentiles onto a Jewish faith, but they reject the faith of Yeshua.

By the way you have an Arabic name. Anyway, the Shabbath is also mentioned in the Quran but not exactly in the connotation you are mentioning here. Shabat in Arabic is Sabat, which also means to rest. Subat in Arabic becomes a long sleep.

Rabbis are disregarding Torah as they discourage and reject converts.

Its rediculous that sound Rabbis wont accept some who converted to Judaism under certain other rabbis. There really needs to be a politcal system setup to help those who really want to convert to Judaism. I believe at least 25% of those immigrants and probably more Muslims too, who arent afraid, and want to convert would complete the process if it were more standardized and better guided to follow Halacha. There is a long history of good people joining the Jewish people. We want this to continue and not be impeded by rediculous bickering and non acceptance.

Only Bnei Israel, the living literal descendants of Jacob are real Jews. Conversion is nothing but perversion.

With the balagan over mass nullifying the conversions of some 40,000 people by the crazy power-hungry fanatical religious beit din who in their right minds would bother to convert? What would be the point? Because you know, in 20 years some other crazy religious beit din might come along and decide they aren't Jews after all and strip them of their rights.

And what about Jews believing in Yeshua as the Mashiach of Yisrael. As well as for the Muslims accepting Jesus. All the statistics show that the numbers are rising rapidily

don't be sad- we have our believes, you have yours- I am not sure where you got all this from- and just what difference does it make if the day of prayer is on Shabbat or on Sunday? We found our Messiah- you are still waiting....we are one step ahead, LOL peace and shalom..

considering that the ratio Israeli Jews : world Muslims = 1 : 2000

This will be our undoing - this folding to the very Soviets we PAID to come here and live as Jews because they said they were. These were not immigrations born of distress or zionism, but of parasitism and manifest destiny. One need not be an ultra-Orthodox to put their foot down and say, no - you are less than 20% of the population, and Israel will not be converted to another _stan. Shame on us for letting this happen, or even for continuously giving them the idea that it is OK. Sooner rather than later, Israel will no longer be worth saving.

What about whom has, somewhere on his genealogic tree, jewish ancestors ? Nothing is so black and white. Times and history push people around the world. But I'm agree with you, if you tell me that you won't become muslim...

Messiah comes twice: as a sacrificial lamb and servant, then later at Armageddon as the Lion of Judah to judge the nations for how they treated the Jews. It makes a great deal of difference what Shabbat you keep. Yeshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ to English speaking Christians) said those who love him will obey his commandments. One of the Ten Commandments is to honor the Sabbaths and keep them holy. The Sabbaths are the seventh day of the week and the Jewish feasts that point to the two comings of the Messiah. When ancient Israel divided over taxes and Solomon's son Rehoboam's country became Judah or Judea, they kept the seventh day Sabbath as instructed by the Lord. King Jeroboam of the Northern Kingdom of Israel changed the sabbath to the eighth day or Sunday. Sunday is the pagan sabbath of Mithraism which was the most popular pagan religion in Rome in the early years of Yeshua's religion called Christianity at some point. Mithraism had a Sunday sabbath to worship the sun or the sungod or devil. Mithraism believed in a trinity or three gods in one. When the Bishops met to select a Pope about 266 A.D.(ce), a nonChristian named Damasus wanted to be Pope who believed in Mithraism. He had his thugs slaughter a lot of the Bishops and the ones left were cowed into voting for Damasus who changed the Sabbath day to Sunday and added a god to the godhead: a trinity. If you read the book of Zechariah, you will find that after Armageddon, a Fourth Temple will be built and God the Father and His Son (the Messiah) will dwell there and the counsel of peace will come from them BOTH. TWO are one, not three are one. Making another god out of the mind or power or seven fold spirit of the Lord is polytheism. What you think is minor could keep you out of heaven. WHO do you think will be told by God that he never knew them? They will be utterly astonished at their exclusion. Read the essays of Mary Walsh who left the Roman Catholic church as a nun when she read the Bible. She found that for every truth of God, Satan has a counterfeit. You have been brainwashed by a counterfeit religion and you must search out the truth or you could be excluded. I say this with great anguish, but God tells us his people perish for lack of knowledge. Will you perish eternally from lack of knowledge? Peace and shalom, shalom. Find the truth. Ezekiel said judgment will start in the sanctuary because the Bible teachers are telling lies and will be judged first. Read Michael Rood's book "The Mystery of Iniquity..." and order booklets from www.thetrumpet.com that are free and will deliver many from the devil's deceptions. Read a Hebraic Roots Version Bible since it is a direct translation from the Hebrew to English instead of fromm Hebrew to Aramaic to Greek to English.

zechariah 12:10 and I will pour out on the house of DAVID and the inhabitants of JESUSALEN a spirit of grace and supplication,they will look on ME,THE ONE they have pierced,and they will mourn for HIM as one mourns for an only child,and grieve bitterly for HIM as one grieves for a firstborn son.

Hello ’Rivkah’, You write: ” Yeshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ to English speaking Christians) said those who love him will obey his commandments.” My reply: Any candidate for being the Messiah must practise non-selectively Torah-observance according to Devarim (Deuteronmy) 13:1-6. תורה (Torah)‭ ‬ (תורה שבעל פה with תורה שבכתב) (oral Torah with written Torah) is indivisible and, therefore, may only be accepted or rejected in its entirety; never partially. Selective observance ≡ selective rejection of תורה-in-its-entirety. Therefore, rejection of even one מצוה (mitzwah; commandment) is rejection of תורה-in-its-entirety. Therefore: selective observance is an unequivocal rejection of תורה, not תורה observance! תורה requires subordination to the בית דין (beit din; Jewish court)-system instituted by מֹשֶה בְפַּרְשַת יִתְּרוֹ (Mosheh in Parashah Yitro) and that the only legitimate בתי דין (batei din; that is beit din in plural) today are those that are successors to the בית דין system instituted by משה בפרשת יתרו (Mosheh in the Parashah Yitro): the Orthodox בתי דין. The name of the historical Jesus is Ribi Yehoshua. The only בית דין on the planet that recognizes followers of ריבי יהושע (Ribi Yehoshua) as משיח (Messiah) and is recognized in good standing in the Orthodox Jewish community is the נצרים ברעננה (Netzarim in Ra’anana) under פקיד ירמיהו (Paqid Yirmeyahu). Therefore, recognition by the בית דין הנצרים ברעננה is, and will always be, the only option for those who follow ריבי יהושע (Ribi Yehoshua). There can be no such thing as a legitimate follower of ריבי יהושע not recognized by an Orthodox בית דין. All others are merely self-proclaiming to follow יש"ו (J*esus, by whatever name). Conversions obtained through concealment or deception are illegitimate, rescinded and reversed. Apart from the נצרים ברעננה (Netzarim in Ra’anana), no claimed follower of יש"ו (by whatever name) is legitimately recognized by any Orthodox בית דין. At the very least, such self-proclaimers thereby violate תורה's requirement to subordinate to the בית דין system instituted by משה בפרשת יתרו (Mosheh in the Parashah Yitro):. Rejecting this מצוה תורה (mitzwah Torah; commandment of Torah) makes them rejecters of the indivisible תורה: frauds, fakes, counterfeits, charlatans and deceivers. The logical conclusion is this: The Christian NT and the Christian J*esus are both anti-Torah and anti-Halakhah. Therefore they do not describe the Messiah. For you to start practise legitimate Judaism you must subordinate yourself under an Orthodox Beit Din. Right now you practise selective Torah-observance and that will not grant you a place in a ha-olam haba (“heaven”) I hope that you will choose the way leading to life – that is non-selective Torah-observance! Finding the historical Jew, who was a Pharisee Ribi and following him brings you into Torah, which gives you a rich and meaningful life here on earth and great rewards in life after death (“heaven”)! From Anders Branderud Geir Toshav, the authentic Netzarim, which is in Ra’anana in Israel (www.netzarim.co.il); who are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – in Orthodox Judaism

as his father does. Yeshua is one of the names of the son. Yehoshua, Joshua, Branch, Lamb, Lion of Judah, Rose of Sharon, Lily of the Valley, are some of the other names. If you read Zechariah's prophecies, you will find that the root of the faith of Abraham (his physical descendants who worship Adonai) will mourn when they realize who the Lion of Judah is who comes to rescue them at Armageddon when they look into the scars on his wrists. He will tell them that he was wounded in the house of his FRIENDS.

I wish that all the missionaries here would stop posting on Jewish and Israeli sites. Leave us alone!!!

many reasons Orthodox Jews feel justified in rejecting Ribi Yehoshua as the Messiah. They and you do not realize the Lord blinded your eyes so that the Gentiles could be grafted onto the faith in the two days (two thousand years since with the Lord a day is as a thousand years) that had to pass before the Messiah returns. Ribi Yehoshua was the last possible person who could be the Messiah since the geneology records of the Jewish people were destroyed in 70 A.D. (ce) by Titus when the Second Temple and Jerusalem were sacked and burned and most of the people were killed by the sword or crucified by the Romans. Read Zechariah and see how the Jews will mourn when they realize Ribi Yehoshua was and is and always will be their Messiah. But the Lord does not hold Jews accountable for not knowing the Messiah at his advent as a sacrificial lamb because Ribi Yehoshua said from the cross, "Father, forgive them. They know not what they do." The Messiah the Jews see at Armageddon coming down from the sky and touching the Mount of Olives will tell them he was wounded in the HOUSE OF HIS FRIENDS. He never stopped loving the Jews who are Jews in their hearts who look to the coming of the Messiah as the Lion of Judah. Ribi Yehoshua obeyed the written Torah perfectly. He is accountable to God for the commandments of God, not accountable to men for the commandments and oral traditions of men. You elevate men's opinions to God's commandments and in that you err, friend.

Messianic Jews can become Israeli citizens. These are people who honor the Sabbaths of Judaism (7th day of week and holy days) and believe Ribi Yehoshua is the Messiah. I am not a missionary. Only God can choose who He wants in His family. I am not God. I share an avocational interest with people just as they share their interests with others. Missionaries think they can convert people to another religion and they get paid. I do not get paid for sharing my interests and studies and I do not believe I have the power to change a person's religion. Rivkah

Messianic Jews are not jewish people ,they are lost to am israel like the believers of shabtai zwi and the jakob frank sekt, who speaks of them ?

ended to show what a failure "jews" many "converts" proved to become They just want a rich Jewish husband, entry to Israel or both All fake convertions should be anulled

There is a place on the tree of faith for the grafted on branch just as there is a place for the root of the faith. The root is blind and cannot see the sun, but that does not mean the branch is not a part of the tree of faith, just because the root cannot see the branch that bears the fruit just as the root absorbs water for the tree. Like the two trees of Israel and Judah which were separated but still loved by the Lord who will bring them together again one day, so the Messianics and grafted on Gentiles and the Jews of the root of the faith will become one religion one day when the Jewish Messiah comes and both groups realize they worshipped the same God as Adonai and Yehoshua.

One correction: The name of the historical J*esus is not le-havdil (to differentiate) Ribi Yehoshua. The historical J*esus is an oxymoron. There was a historical Pharisaic first century leader named le-havdil (to separate from) Ribi Yehoshua. This is not the same person as the Christian J*esus. When you Christians who are reading this realize the above you can start follow the historical Ribi Yehoshua by practising Torah non-selectively. That is indeed meaningful; and everyone that loves ha-Sheim – the Creator of the universe – does his or her utmost to practise Torah. The first century Ribi Yehoshua said: “Happy are they to be who hunger and thirst after tzedaqah [justness according to Torah; that is practising the מצות in תורה (Torah)], for they shall be filled of it.” [The Netzarim Reconstruction of Hebrew Matityahu 5:3]. From Anders Branderud Geir Toshav, Netzarim in Ra’anana in Israel (www.netzarim.co.il) whom are followers of Ribi Yehoshua – the Messiah – in Orthodox Judaism

than seeing these ex-Soviet wh_res being forced to speak Hebrew at home, have Jewish babies, and get a job when they thought they would just be sitting on their arses all day and living it up in Israelstan on someone else's shekel. The bitterness in their eyes is as good as a slap in the face.

For KING DAVID is decedent of a convert! And some other great men, including some great rabbis! PLUS that only because of the mass conversion of Khazars Jews today are alive: about 80% are Ashkenazim, therefor, DECEDENTS of the Khazar converts!

Feel sorry for them.

convert to Judaism: Rahab and Ruth since both women were in the geneology of Yehoshua, too. God favors the physical seed of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and Judah more than the Gentiles IF the person is in God's camp. God punishes the descendants of Judah more if they are not in God's camp. Gentiles are a grafted on branch who don't think they need the root of the tree of faith, when the Bible says the root is more necessary to the tree than the grafted on branch. That is shocking, but Yehoshua did not need to die for the Jews since they had a prior everlasting covenant through Abraham. It is Gentiles who would be excluded from the heavenly kingdom if Yehoshua had not died for them, to graft them onto the tree of faith. That is not taught by many teachers who think the Gentiles replaced the descendants of Abraham in God's plan, something they call replacement theology. If the Jews had accepted Yehoshua as their Messiah before he died on the cross, the Millenial (thousand year) Kingdom would have started at that point instead of two thousand years later and all the heartaches of those years for the Jews. If the Jews had accepted Yehoshua before he was crucified, he would have laid down on the altar and died without pain and come alive again, to show the Jews resurrection is real and those who are in God's camp will resurrect, too. But the Gentiles would not have been grafted onto the faith. Was that a mistake, to give the Gentiles two thousand years to corrupt the religion of Yehoshua so much it is unrecognizeable as a Jewish religion? Mistake or not, that is what has happened.