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Palestinian terror group gloats over Zikim closure
Ali Waked
Published: 19.11.08, 22:56
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1. Israel ,defeated by the peace process
Marcel ,   Florida   (11.19.08)
What Israel enemies could not do thru war they are succeeding by way of the fake peace process. The West restrains Israel and not the Islamic hordes. They take advantage of Israeli stupidity.
2. Abir right: Palestinians have more faith and determination.
Steve ,   US   (11.19.08)
3. Keep on day-dreaming Abir !
(11.19.08)
But so you know that sometimes a modern army evacuates places and retreats tactically only to return and clean up the terrorist mess. So, don't hold your breath, for no one is going to relinquish to you and your raw terrorist pals even one inch of our country !
4. Unfortunately he's right: Israel is weak
(11.20.08)
5. Israel's leaders sell her for theri own self interests.
Thelma   (11.20.08)
6. Listen to our enemies before we listen to ourselves
scott ,   chicago   (11.20.08)
Because they are right. NO MORE... we have given a lot for Nothing in return, but cash that our leaders pocketed from Oslo
7. leftist kadima sends surrender signals, no balls.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (11.20.08)
8. I did my basic training there....
Drew ,   Israel   (11.20.08)
And no, I don' think Israel is succumbing to Palestinian bullsh*t. It's scary, with rockets falling all around you. On the contrary, Israel cares for her citizens and doesn't want to cause unnecessary harm. I think this decision should have been made long ago, and the Palestinians are delusional view this as succumbing to their "resistance" terror instead of protecting lives.
9. Our total faith in our legitimate rights on the Land of ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (11.20.08)
Our total faith in our legitimate rights on the Land of Israel will restore the spirit of the I.D.F and its deterrence. The restoration of Israel's deterrence factor is not a matter of increasing the security budget, as the security lobbyists would have us believe. Just two years ago, Israel's army collapsed in the face of an enemy the size of a mere division – in a war that Israel itself initiated. The problem was not budget. The problem was a loss of common goals that create our cohesiveness and national might. Our lack of deterrence is not due to a lack of tanks or fighter jets - it is due to the fact that our enemies think that our society is disintegrating and that the State of Israel is "weaker than spider webs," in the descriptive words of Nasrallah. A just society understands what it is doing in its land and can produce the power of deterrence that Israel used to have - when it believed that it was right. We will fight for our country because it is ours as explainet in 6 parts at : http://xrl.us/bi5c6
10. mistaken and uninterested in peace
andré ,   paris fr   (11.20.08)
"and of course, the daily beating from the Palestinian resistance," Abu Abir said. Daily beating...more like daily annoyances causing stress and the disruption of civilian lives. What about the IDFs continuous successful raids killing terrorists, preventing them from launching more rockets, planting IEDs along the fence, etc... Israel must stop appeasing terrorists who take Israeli gestures for peace and co-existence as signifcant victories because of their dispicable terrorist operations, which only propagate the cycle of violence. For once, maybe they can take some steps to improve the miserable lives of their people instead of investing in violence and terror, forcing Israel to again retaliate, and protect its people.
11. Zikim
RK ,   Eilat, IL   (11.20.08)
Maybe the brave Hebron settlers will take over the hilltop (I mean base) and squat there. THis way they can fulfill their nationalistic obligations.
12. closing Zikkim
Sharona ,   Jerusalem Israel   (11.20.08)
The terrorist is right. It shows the true colors of the Defence establishment that has been ruined by the political establishment since the Oslo sell-out. We leave our civilians in rocket range and move the army to "safety". And the rockets are coming to Ashdod, and beyond. Where will the IDF run then???????
13. Palestinian terror group gloats over Zikim closure
Yonatan ,   Jerusalem   (11.20.08)
this article is spot on the Palestinians read the Israeli position 100% correct. the Palestinians should be happy and very grateful to the weak corrupted politicians that give in to their every demands and make it possible for them to achieve their goal ie the total destruction of Israel
14. Abu Abir
(11.20.08)
he couldn't even have a male child to support a frightening name of his own
15. careful abir
marco ,   pardes hana   (11.20.08)
hey abir, lucky for you israel has been acting nice to you but don't worry now, the day it needs to whip your butts, i wouldn't want to be in your place. you know that one day your rhetoric will just be a big bag of wind. ha ha don't push to far cause the world is getting tired of the way the fanatics handle your religion. you included of course. get smart.
16. Zikkim has been "closing" for more than three years,
Israel   (11.20.08)
since before the start of the kassams in 2005. My son did his basic training there at that time and the base was supposed to close "soon". It seems that "soon" has finally arrived.
17. The IDF = third-world army.
(11.20.08)
18. #8
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (11.20.08)
You are right, but what is your solution? What will you do with the Jews? You are right, Israel should retreat from Zikim because it is scary but Israel should also retreat from Sderot and Ashkelon because it is also scary. And it is also scary to be in Iron valley, Galil and Negev because of lawlessness and attacks. And of course, Israel should kick the Jews out of Judea and Samaria for peace, but then living in Shoham, Elad and Kfar Saba will be scary. At the end, if you move the Jews from all the scary places where will you put them?
19. #8 You are wrong
JAy ,   ISrael   (11.20.08)
The government doesnt care about the people and Sderot is a perfect example. Running away like a coward is not the answer. You face the threat head on and eliminates it otherwise you loose all past deterrence value.
20. The IDF, the rocket and you.
chop-chop   (11.20.08)
Saddly, I must agree with the muslim thug. Quotes " faith and determination, which Israel lacks, will bring more victories and evacuations "--" the force behind the rockey is the palestinian's determination " ---Deterence,restore the "spirit" of the IDF(which can be found in a bar),delusional,stupidity,hesitancy, WORDS,WORDS, and more WORDS. --The mighty soviet army fought the mujahadin in Afganistan 10 years. --The mighty US army is doing the same in Iraq for 5+ years. --The mighty World Armada with submarines, cruisers,aircraft carriers,& more,, is unable to crush pirates tacking over ships, men,weapons,money,and no one is able/willing to stop them. It looks like we are witnessing a new world order. Electronics, fancy gadgets, atomic subs, invisible aircrafts, drones and more.BUT, nothing will stop man's drive as long as his faith, determination and the willingness to put his life on the line ; for Good or Evil. A former Golani man from the 40's. "' 12 th brigade " Barak
21. when the scum is right he is right
svietka from shomron   (11.20.08)
what can we do-he is absolutly correct-we r ruled by cowards, we have become cowards, we excuse our cowardiness with "logical"explanations and give various "reasons"--but we still have adopted a behaviour of cowards!
22. amazing!!!!
(11.20.08)
amazing how the hamas and palestinians gloat when a nation protects its valuable citizens and promotes life rather than death. do not gloat muslims. israel values life and security. they don't use their populations as you do as human sheilds and then expose the media to your atrocities and carnage. yes, evacuating zikim is for the security and life of the soldiers. it is not a cowardly move at all, something the poalesstinians and hamas can never understand. if an israeli fly dies, they celebrate it asd a victory. what pathetic people without education, without humanity, without intelligence and values.
23. #9 Robert Bernier
Jonathan   (11.22.08)
Could you give us parts 2 to 6? The link took me to part 1 only. Thanks!
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