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UN: Support Palestinians' rights to self-determination, statehood
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Published: 24.11.08, 21:11
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1. No Palestinian state = the Palestinians' ...
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (11.24.08)
greatest failure. They could have had one decades ago if they weren't so stupid.
2. Short memory, UN has much worse failures
JPS ,   Efrat   (11.24.08)
Gosh, the genocide in Rwanda comes to mind as one of the UNs biggest screwups... and that was what, about 1 million dead and another million displaced? Makes the Pals look like they're living in the lap of luxury. Then there's the infamous Oil-for-Graft, oops, I mean Oil-for-Food program where UN workers and their buddies (like former UN Sec-Gen Koffi Anan's son) pocketed billions of dollars and the UN did what? Oh right, nothing. Oh, then there's Bosnia... when the UN "peace keepers" stood by with their loaded weapons on safety while the Serbs slaughtered thousands of innocent Muslims. I think the Pals are the worst failure for the UN in that never have so few people gotten so much out of the UN while deserving (relatively speaking to the dead ghosts mentioned above) so little. The Palestinians are the biggest moneymaking scam ever to hit the world scene. They've gotten billions more than UN cronies ever skimmed off of Iraq. The Pals are just about the only Arabs without any oil... no problem, they have the UN and EU instead.
3. no palestinian state for the past 60
max ,   usa   (11.24.08)
years because there were no palestinian's 60 years ago? makes sense to me a made up name and people doesnt get a state . i wish i could make up my own people and get money from around the world. ok everyone its time to free the maxian people give me money
4. Crazy
Joe ,   St. Louis, USA   (11.24.08)
First, nearly a million Jews fled as refuges and were taken in by other Jews in Israel. The Arabs who fled should have been absorbed and helped by other Arabs but they were not. The region was in a period of change, Israel came to being as did some Arab states. They should be Egyptians and Jordainians and syrians Second, They should have had their state decades ago except their goal was not a state but the destruction of Israel. Egypt and Jordan did not give them a state before ,67., before the "occupation" Did the UN moan about that? NO. Third, Let Gaza get aid through Egypt.
5. Why isn't Miguel d'Escoto calling for a Kurdish state
Ken Jurist   (11.24.08)
Because he see's a Kurdish state as a step backwards for the Arabs, Iranians and Turks.
6. The UN Only Failed AFTER The Philistines Rejected Statehood
Yishai Kohen ,   YeShA, Israel   (11.24.08)
The Arabs violently rejected UN 181 whichwould have goiven them a state in peace in 1948. They claimed that the UN had no authority. Then after they lost the war that they chose instead of a state in peace, they tried to hide behind the same "authority-less" UN. They're like the guy who murders his parents and then cries for mercy (or demands mercy) from the court because he's an orphan. And the sickest part is that the same UN funds the UNRWA, which perpetuates the conflict. Israel, with no land or resources, took in its victims of Arab aggression. The Arabs, withLOTS of land and trillions in petro-dollars, will just have to take in their own victims of their aggression. Elsewhere.
7. UN Secretary Ban is ridiculous
Michael F ,   New York, USA   (11.24.08)
Is it really the world's responsibility to provide a State to a "people" who have refused a State at every opportunity. Clearly not. How ridiculous!!
8. The U.N.'s most pressing Issue is NUCLEAR IRANIAN MULLAHS!!!
dp   (11.24.08)
stop being so ineffective
9. 2
Igor ,   Munich/Ramat Gan   (11.24.08)
hey, good points...
10. GIVE EM UGANDA FOR THEIR STATE!
stude ham   (11.24.08)
11. back statehood even though
Susan ,   U.S   (11.24.08)
both Fatah and Hamas charter calls for the destruction of Israel! Back it even knowing everything within their society calls for all of Israel, Palestine! Back it even knowing Abbas recently visited a Jew killer in Beirut who announced he would not rest until all of Israel is destroyed! Lastly, back it even though all the facts PROVE THE PALESTINIANS HAVE DONE NOTHING TO EARN IT and worse, have no intentions of doing so. I swear I am sick to my stomach. Lies have now become truth and truth means absolutely nothing!!
12. why don't they just be honest and say:
Avi ,   Israel   (11.24.08)
UN's 'single greatest failure' was not that Palestinians did not achieve statehood but that Israel did!!! Everything the UN says screams this.
13. More Jews than that were made stateles...
Avi   (11.24.08)
... by Arab pogroms/etc. They moved to Israel, which readily gave them citizenship. Did the Arab countries that robbed those Jews turn over the assets that they stole to Palestinians and grant them statehood? No? So then whose fault is it that these Pals are stateless today?
14. 60 years of stubbornness
Juan ,   Spain   (11.24.08)
These poor 'Palestinians' have been wandering about now for 60 years. They should have gone home to Jordan and Egypt straight after the war. But, instead, they are still cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
15. Why only Palestinians?
Joseph ,   Israel   (11.24.08)
As #5 says, it seems that the forgot about the Kurds, who unlike the Palestinians who are Arabs, are a unique nation with a unique culture and language. and what about the Basques, cruely oppressed by the French and Spaniards, why are they deprived of statehood? Is it because France and Spain are vulnerable and fear genocide at the hand of the Basques? and the Inuit people of Canada, why are they deprived of statehood. Is it because of the shortage of available land? The only answer is that the UN is a racist organization that supports the Arabs just to get the Jews.
16. last paragraph proves the lies
Lior ,   Yehud   (11.24.08)
"The international community should spare no effort in assisting both Israel and Palestinians to reach a solution that will fulfill the goal of two states - Israel and Palestine - living side by side in peace and security," What a liar Miguel d'Escoto is knowing the charter of both Fatah and Hamas call for the destruction of Israel. Having said that, I can not count the times Bush spewed the BS about Palestine and Israel living side by side. No one can tell me Miguel d'Escoto, Moon and Bush are not aware of the Abbas sponsored poster which shows all of my country Israel as Palestine! And believe you me, they are also aware of the charters of death to Israel. What does that tell you?
17. to #14
Molly ,   California   (11.24.08)
It looks like they are cutting their noses to spite their face but they want all of Israel no matter how long it takes.
18. Jordan IS Palestine
Stephanie ,   Israel   (11.24.08)
Jordan occupies 78% of the Mandate land and has a Palestinian population of 76% of its people. Jordan IS Palestine
19. International Day of Solidarity with the Palestinian People
Global Citizen ,   Israel & USA   (11.24.08)
Good Lord - what have they come to?
20. Global Citizen wrote:
Rose ,   U.S   (11.24.08)
"Good Lord - what have they come to? " Knowing what they know, they have come to speak the truth in their roundabout way which is how they Really feel for Jews. The sooner this is recognized as yet another libel against Jews, the sooner we can fight for truth.
21. Please YNET, do not bury this because..
Shraga ,   Rishon LeZion   (11.24.08)
both this insane article and the incredible responses are too important to forget for another day! Please.
22. Illusionists
Jewish Refugee ,   U.S.A.   (11.24.08)
There is no Palestine, there are no palestinians, here is a question. Which one sounds better for our enemies? Arab Israeli conflict or Israel Palestinian conflict Illusion was made purposely so the world would feel sorry for poor Palestinians who are under oppression of the Strong Israel. Before it was poor Israel under oppression of Strong Arab nations. But the problem is that second still holds just the names have changed. Please join our new Pro-Israel blog where you can speak the truth without censorship, contribute your aticles for our page. All this at http://israelactnow.blogspot.com/ Join and make a difference.
23. Why only the Palestinians number 15?
Eli ,   Morristown, N.J   (11.25.08)
Look at it this way please. With all the suffering gone ignored in the entire world, the world chooses to link to Palestinian suffering because I am a Jew. Yes, I know, most people will jump on that comment as something Jews always repeat. But I ask you from the depths of my heart, is there any sane and rational reason for all these lies in turning Israel into a pariah except the obvious ones?? What is the rational for turning the victims, Israel into the victimizers except.......... Here on this panel people posted reality and truth which can not be disputed yet still we see the powers that be continue unabated to push for the unimaginable. God Bless
24. Get it through your head Avi thirteen
Jessica ,   Maine   (11.25.08)
NO ONE CARES FOR TRUTH. No one cares how many Jews were made stateless. No one cares. This horrible injustice inflicted upon Jews is something no one cares about. No one cares otherwise things would be a lot different.
25. Message for Ban Ki Moon
Brod ,   USA   (11.25.08)
The Islamist-Jihadists already have their own state in Jordan. Stop being manipulated and brainwashed by the Islamist-Jihadists in crusading their Jihadism on Israel. The Land of Israel belongs to the Jews since ancient time-4000 years ago since the time of their forefathers Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.
26. The UN's single greatest failure was the genocide in Rwanda
seraph   (11.25.08)
As well as many other genocides that they could have prevented, but chose to ignore
27. No peace because Pals want their demands imposed on Israel
Sam ,   Canada   (11.25.08)
First, it's very unclear that the large majority of Palestinians even accept that there shall be a Jewish-majority Israel. Second, it is evident that the Palestinians want their demands imposed on Israel. So, all this hand-wrenching by the United Nations or Western countries about there not being a Palestinian state is misplaced. There is no Palestinian state because of the Palestinians themselves.
28. 800,000 refugees????
(11.25.08)
since when do we have 800,000 refugees. oh, i see...the descendants, ha???? bogus! mr. moon... what about the 1,000,000 jewish refugees that were kicked out of all arab countries by those governments and whose riches, lives, money, businesses, shops, homes, etc... were stolen and confiscated by the arabs??? what about the seige that these millipon jews lived in in all arab countries, the abuse, the terror, the inability to have court protection, the inability to vote, to have legal protection, to own land, to own their own businesses without government imterference? what about all the pogroms, riots, etc... that ended with slaughter of thousands of these jews, no religious freedom, no freedom of movement or freedom to live amongst muslims or in non jewish neighborhoods except for the jewish mellahs and ghettos they were forced to live in in extreme poverty, no education and no facilities that were modern? what about not being allowed to represent themselves in a court of law, what about them being forced to wear special clothing to identify them as jews? what about the torture, hangings, killing and forced conversions to islam on these jews? what about the jews having to kiss muslim feet when they see them on the streets, or not permotted to look at muslims or walk on the same sidewalk as muslims, or ride a horse or donkey as muslims did? what about the jizzyah, a tax jews had to pay for their protection under islamic law? what about their recognition as refugees that MUST HAVE COMPENSATION FROM ALL ARAB CPUNTRIES AND THE ABILITY TO GO BACK AND CLAIM WHAT THEUR WERE FORCED TO LEAVE BEHIND AND WHAT THE ARABS STOLE FROM THEM. WHAT ABOUT THIS COMPENSATION....BECAUSE THIS COMPENSATION IS IN THE BILLIONS, MUCH MORE THAN WHAT THE PALESTINIAN REFUGEES EVER HAD! id we are to talk about refugees, thean what is good for the goose is good for the gander. won't you say. mr. moon???
29. Thank you YNET!
(11.25.08)
30. listen UN guy
USA   (11.25.08)
the arabs refused the original partition, your so called two states for two people. If anything Gaza should go back to Egyptian control and let Egypt deal with Gaza and Hamas while parts of the west back to Jordanian control and tell Egypt and Jordan to creat a PA state because we don't want any part of it.
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