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US Jews urge Obama to move embassy to Jerusalem
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Published: 28.11.08, 08:39
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1. Don't hold your breath.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (11.28.08)
Obama will not support Israel until he is up for re-election.
2. Jerusalem the Only Holie place to Judaisn.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (11.28.08)
One of the most popular lies that has become universally accepted as if it was an indisputable truth is the myth about Jerusalem being the third sacred place to Islam. It is quite rare to hear the honest truth, that Jerusalem is the First and Only Holiest place to Judaism! As a matter of fact, Jerusalem is not mentioned at all in the koran, and Muhammad has never been there (perhaps he did not even know about the existence of Jerusalem!). The tale about his dream flight has been related with Jerusalem in a very recent time for political strategy purposes. The Islamic claim to the Temple Mount is very recent - Jerusalem's role as "The Third Holiest Site in Islam" in mainstream Islamic writings does not precede the 1930s. It was created by the grand mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini as explained at : http://xrl.us/bjheo
3. Jerusalem is exclusively Jewish.
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (11.28.08)
Arabs do not have any right on Jerusalem whatsoever. It is certainly not the fact that the Mosque of El Akza has been built in Jerusalem (when the Mosque was built, Jerusalem was already Jewish since 1500 years…) that gives the Arabs any right. Mosques have been built in London, Paris, Brussels and other cities. Does that fact give the Arabs any right on these cities ? There is no doubt about the legitimity of the Jewish sovereignty on Jerusalem as described at : http://xrl.us/bi7qx
4. nuts not crazy
observer   (11.28.08)
Abbas revealed later that when he told Obama about the Arab peace initiative - offering Israel normal relations with all 22 Arab countries in exchange for a Palestinian state - Obama's (clearly private) response was unambiguous: "The Israelis must be crazy not to accept that.". Obama has recently said said he did say nuts not crazy.
5.  Don't hold your breath but, plug your.......
AVROHOM BILGREI ,   ZION   (11.28.08)
ears ! Danny Ayalon; wye agreement advocator, expulsion supporter, N.B.N. cofounder and all 'round self server and Dr. of DUPLICITY !
6. Impossible, Jerusalem is still occupied Territory
True Blue American ,   USA   (11.28.08)
No country on the planet recognizes Israel's claim to Jerusalem as it remains occupied territory, which is why no foreign embassies exist in Israel other than in Tel Aviv. The USA must never legitimize Israel's attempted annexation of Jerusalem until Israel and Palestine have made peace and the final status of the holy city is decided as part of a permanent bilateral permanent peace accord. To do so would not be in the best interest of the USA or the world as a whole, something I'm sure that president elect Obama is very well aware of.
7. Jerusalem is a 100% Palestinian City!
Sayid ,   Sweden   (11.28.08)
0% Khazar, 0% Ethiopian, 0% Sephardi, 0% Yemenite!
8. Dream on silly orthodox Jews
Fary   (11.28.08)
Hussein is not only a Mohammedan who was raised in a quranic school, but later as part of his half-breed identity problems joined a Christian hate group, which hates all whites and Jews, and works with the anti-semite Farrakhan. For you to now ask him to move the embassy to Jerusalem - how stupid, how self-humiliating, how ignorant.
9. Change
Bernie ,   formerly of Seattle   (11.28.08)
The newly annointed Messiah of the media has promised change! If he moves the American Embassy to Yerushalayim then this will be change we can believe in. Just say YES WE CAN move the embassy to Yerushalayim
10. JERUSALEM
D'Orazio G. ,   GENK BELGIUM   (11.28.08)
JERUSALEM IS THE CAPITAL OF ISRAEL BY KING DAVID MORE AS 4000 YEARS AGO ...JERUSALEM IS WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE MORE THAN 2000 TIMES ....... IN THE KORAN 0 (ZERO) TIMES. WHY ASK PALESTINIANS I'TS OUR CAPITAL?????? THINK ABOUT THIS .........GOD OF ABRAHAM ISAAK AND JACOB (ISRAEL) WATCH OVER JERUSALEM CAPITAL OF ISRAEL.
11. Israel shouldn't allow to have embassies in other cities
Gabriel ,   Budapest, Hungary   (11.28.08)
The question is very simple. Israeli governments should not allow foreign states to hold or open embassies in Tel Aviv or in other Israeli cities. Politicians must be very clear with this and tell to Israel's partners that the Jewish state allows embassies to operate only from Jerusalem which is the official capital city of the state (according to the basic law). Allowing embassies to operate from Tel Aviv legitimizes the discrimination of the Israeli people worldwide because all the nations have the right to decide themselves which city on their territory should be the capital. At the other hand, those countries who deny this right from Israelis, are not only unfriendly but also anti-semitic because of the double balance applied in the case of the Jewish State. Israeli politicians must be clear, without fearing external reactions, that JERUSALEM is OFF the AGENDA and won't be subject of future Israeli-Palestinian peace talks. The Palestinians must understand that the only solution for them to have a second state (on the territory of Judea, Samaria, and Gaza) is to give up their baseless dream about "Al Quds". They might have a special status in the city and control their religious sites also in the future but the city itself won't belong to them! Palestinians will never have Jerusalem as their capital city, especially because 2/3 of the population in the city is Jewish, Israel inversted lots of money in the infrastructure that Palestinians could never pay back for Israel. In East Jerusalem there are big Jewish quarters and suburbs around the Arab districts which can not be neglected. Suburbs with thousands of inhabitants won't be demolished just becasue the Palestinians "need" a city which never belonged to any "Palestinian" state.
12. #6 & 7 Jerusalem was never a Palestinian City!
Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (11.28.08)
And has held a continuous Jewish presence for 2500 years. Palestine was created in 1917 by a mistake in a UK document. And yes it is an occupied city, but Israel is not kicking out the Arabs that are occupying it.
13. When Jerusalem is recognized as the capital of Israel by the
Rivkah   (11.28.08)
world community, that will be seven years before Armageddon. The horrors of the slaughter on the West Bank of Jews in Jerusalem will happen three and a half years before Armageddon after a world leader walks into the rebuilt Third Temple of the Jews in Jerusalem and says he is god when he is not. There are many problems in the world now and the tragedies and natural disasters will increase like the birthpangs of a woman in labor, Rabbi Yehoshua said. The hope is to look forward to the coming of the Jewish Messiah from the sky who touches down on the Mount of Olives with an earthquake making Jerusalem a seaport city. My great dread in life has always been to be alive in the times before the coming of the Lord. Looks that that time is upon us or shortly will be.
14. Jerusalem belongs to God & his Elect Jews God said so.......
Roy C. Hudson ,   Pittsburg USA   (11.28.08)
The Root of the conflict is this God Gave Jerusalem to Abraham, Isaac, & Jacob,,The Nation of Israel is Gods Nation & Jerusalem is where God said I set up MY Name above all.There is no God but Me.Ishmael & Esau was given Land . See how much they have, see how small the Land of Israel is, Arafat =PLO was a Wicked Man with the help of all Nations, Killed the Children of Israel the Past 60 years.Jerusalem has always been the City of God & will always be the capital City of Israel. Obama, is just passing through like Arafat. (!!!) Zechariah;12;1-9 is Gods Plan for all Nations in this generation. God said I will seek away to destroy all Nations that come against MY City Jerusalem,& MY Elect Family of Jews when I put them in their Homeland this time. May 14.1948. the star of David went up. never to be given to,Abbas,Hamas.Obama PLOetc The Gentile systems of this world has staked their all on the GW Bush Land to the PLO for Peace, How ignorant can the leaders of this world be.God said I will destroy ALL the systems that have put down MY Chosen Nation of People. Obama said I will make Israel my No.1 deal Following The GW&Rice plan. Land to the PLO. God will keep his Word To Abraham, Isaac, " Jacob" in this Generation that is 60 years old now. Roy C Hudson USA
15. Jerusalem has been majority Jewish since 1860s
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (11.28.08)
No "True Blue American" (#6) would consider Jerusalem to be occupied territory. And Sayid (#7) from increasingly occupied Sweden needs to be reminded that Jerusalem has been majority Jewish since at least the 1860s, as confirmed by a British census at the time. Jerusalem has *never* been a Palestinian city. History shows that the only time it's not been treated as a backwater by Arabs and Muslims is when someone else wants it or controls it.
16. wow! 2days TBers are self centered rightists...
an Israeli   (11.28.08)
because after all the very first thing Mr. Obama (with the huge economic problem in Dah!merica is going to do) is spend money moving the US Embassy into the Capital of the troublesome backwater corner of the Empire! Yeah right!
17. Yeah. Right. sure Motek
Gideon Reader   (11.28.08)
Excuse me. I cannot help from smirking. No chuckeling. Laughing out loud. Gufawing. Move it or lose it? Bwhahahahaha.
18. #13 and Armageddon
English person ,   London   (11.28.08)
Wow! Wow! Is there are single person who believes the total, absolute and moronic scatological drivel in note #13. Were you part of the US armies experiments with LSD? Why, why, why do you think that a single sane person in the world would not feel like vomiting after reading the copious messages that you write. Serious nutter - as we say in the UK. And I do hope that you are alive in the times before coming of your Lord - if only so you can decide whether you support Gog or Maggog.
19. DONT PRESSURE US TO DO THIS - MUST BE A CHOICE
Andrew ,   Miami,USA   (11.28.08)
20. Sayid-Swedes tell me they feel Stockholm is also a Arab City
Alan ,   SA   (11.28.08)
21. Jews Get Up From The Ground
Lawrence Tendler ,   zefat Israel   (11.28.08)
Stop crawling like worms and stand proud like men.Stop looking to false Messiahs like Mr.Obama to be nice to you.Try the Abishter instead,he awaits your call.
22. Obama The Great White Hope NOT.
Lawrence Tendler ,   zefat Israel   (11.28.08)
Don't bet your Money on this Horse,you can't win.
23. Yes We Can But We Don't Want To
Lawrence Tendler ,   zefat Israel   (11.28.08)
24. well said #12.
nate ,   Canada   (11.28.08)
..except "palestinians" dont believe in facts, like many other arabs, they only believe the propaganda they are fed.
25. 18 English person: The UK boasts of only two per cent of
Rivkah   (11.28.08)
its population going to the Anglican Church of England weekly. Muslims are buying churches and turning them into mosques. You do not mock me. You mock the word of the Lord. The prophet Amos said God will do nothing except He first tells his servants the Prophets. I am not a prophet, but Amos and others in the Bible were and I quote them. When Gog of Magog attacks Israel (Judah in the Middle East), he will also go up (north) to the land of unwalled villages ...to take a spoil in cattle, etc. North America will be attacked. But so will Britain and the British Commonwealth which are the nations of Ephraim, son of Joseph, grandson of Jacob who told him he would become a multitude of nations with the gates of their enemies. Israel which includes Manasseh (USA) and Ephraim and Judah are about to come under attack and you will not escape unless the Lord supernaturally protects you. Repent of your disrespect for the word of the Lord you have neglected to study. The Lord is against Gog and Magog and will draw them to attack Israel so their military and the military of the nations listed with them in Ezekiel chapter 38 can be destroyed. When nations like Britain forget the Lord, Deuteronomy in the Bible says what happens: floods (Britain), drought (Australia), fires, famine, starvation, pestilence, invasion, and captivity. That is what you have to look forward to and God will protect only a few. Watch always and pray that you may be found worthy to escape all these things that come to pass, Rabbi Yehoshua warned.
26. why??
Steeve ,   OHIO   (11.28.08)
and piss off 1.4 billion Muslims ...i think president Obama is smarter than that .. it should be an international city ..period .. Muslims should not take an israeli permission to go to their sites ..nor the israelis should in return .. playing politics with the religiuos issues is very backward thinking ..and couterproductive . Jerusalem is and the only one issue that doesn't have any room for compromise ..
27. move capital to Jerusalem
Hilda ,   US   (11.28.08)
If Israel's so called good friend Bush didn't do it how can one expect the left wing Obama do it?
28. Sayid selective memory
Ben ,   USA   (11.28.08)
Sayid, Your erudite population analysis is impressive and frankly leaves my heathen non-Muslim self sorrowed and humbled by the wise reasoning of such a dignified scholar of the Religion of Peace. The next time the Muslim flagellation holiday comes around I'll be sure and find a whip to whip myself for my sin against Allah. Where did you find your analysis, palestine remembered dot com or a box of Cracker Jacks? As long as you're pretending to be able to disconnect Ashkenaz Jews from a people that originated in modern-day Israel, how about playing with the word "Palestinian"? Let's see - it originates from a time before Islam existed, when the Arabs tribes were just that - a bunch of disconnected tribes. "Palestine" was an insult by Romans toward the Jews expelled from their native Judea. Wow, these are definitely arguments in your favor. Hint: your overuse of exclamation points tips off your post as the vile anti-semitic propaganda it is.
29. Sayid, Sweden
JK ,   Sweden   (11.28.08)
These Arabs are so pathetic - Sayid, Sweden - kvetching that Jerusalem was never a Jewish city. Sayid claiming Swedishness as Sayid would be a Swedish name. To Swedes you are a svartskalle and will be it in eternity so before attacking others for fakeness accept your own ethic fraud. Zykker.
30. #25 response
English person ,   London   (11.28.08)
I am the loony for even bothering to read your garbage. "Repent of your disrespect for the word of the Lord you have neglected to study. " Oh - and when did I neglect to study the word of the Lord? The problem is that your pathetic and feeble ranting is based on superstition, prejudice and ignorant opinion. Just to respond to your very first comment how on earth are you so sure that I did not spend four years at university studying comparative semitic religion? You pull the rug from under your own fetid feet and rant like some lunatic Baptist preacher trying to make out that you are a prophet with access to special information. Give us all a break. Intahirri. Don't understand Arabic? shucks.
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