Well that is some real scientific reliable work. Knowing the constant demonizing of the religious public by Ynet and other Israeli media, one could not expect another result. If it was for these Hellenists the word Judaism and everything associated with it , would be cut out entirely from here and the word Israel would dissapear too. Their religion of Liberalism does not allow any other religion to coexist . In fact they are the real extremist ,with a deep hatred towards anything different .

The problem is not "religious" parties. The problem is the party system. Get rid of that, institute direct elections of specific individuals on a district/city basis, and this entire issue evaporates. Unlike the American Founding Fathers, ours were stupid.

In principal I wholly support the notion that religion and politics should be seperated. It is clear to me that religion gets tainted by political association. However it also seems to me that becuase the Jewish Nature of the state is not protected by politicians, religion has got involved in politics.

We are all Jews, even when we disagree. This "Hellenist" bullshit you keep spewing is the kind of hate that your tb purports to eschew.

You tell me it's the institution Well you know You better free your mind instead

The Jewish nature of the state not protected ? Tell me , who controls the weddings ? to whom have we to go for funeral ? what kind of food do our soldiers receive ? what's about public transport on Shabbat ? Is this not a protection of the Jewish nature of the State ? What do you want more ? No my friend , Rabbanim should stay at the Beth Knesseth , not in the Knesseth . And to be ruled by an Ovadia Yossef , no thanks . We are not in Iran .

I am going to be very honest:I love studying Torah;I love being in a religious environment;I fell conforted in a Sinagogue...But ,what I feel is that the Religious ,who have hold Torah up to now,supposedly for the benefit of all Jews,they are a bit egoistic in sharing it. They have the feeling that only them have something to give to us ,the "other Jews",and refuse to listen to us,to our experiences ,to our Jewish souls that are the same as theirs. They stick too much in the form and seem to let behind the essence. Even in Chabad(that's my experience),they are open up to a certain point,but beyond that they close the "doors" and it is very difficult to go in,unless one changes his /her appearences,even if that is a lie.I will not wear a wig untill I feel that.I will not do that before I understand that, because otherwise it would be falsewood,and I don't think Hashem desires falsewood from us. We Jews are ONE and the Religious should ,somehow,open a bigger breach to let us in.A work through dialogs should happen.They will benefit and so will us,I am sure. The resistence must be broken by all sides.When it happens,I am sure, we will fulfill a lot,a lot of happyness and a lot of love and a lot of compreehension!

in the govt? Im sure if asked this way, they would answer yes, because most Israelis believe in the democratic system. Its the way the question is asked that spurns the hatred. The real problem the secular people have, is their perception that a religious person suspends his free choice to his Rabbinic leader who decides the party line. They view this as counter-democratic. When the religious parties, then use their influence for furthering the plight of religious people, who are on the most part, on the bottom end of the economic scale, the seculars get more upset. The seculars know in their heart, that the religious parties have more power than their numbers reflect, because they play the middle between two secular Israeli philosophies, both of whom need the religious to rule over and suppress their secular opponents. THIS IS THE REAL SOURCE OF RESENTMENT THAT YOUR POLL WONT REVEAL.

The unmitigated arrogance of the far right religious extremists only serves to drive a further wedge between people raised secular who may have a small spark of interest in religion, and the avenues to afford getting that interest fulfilled. Ovadia Yosef this man, this so called "rabbi" is a bloated goat whom G-d will profoundly punish. His service is to his cult followers the weak and vulnerable members of society who bleat at his side, kissing his hand only to further bloat his twisted ego. Since 1999, several of Shas's MKs, including Aryeh Deri, Rafael Pinhasi, Yair Lev, Ofer Hugi and Yair Peretz have been convicted of offences including fraud and forgery. In addition, elected MK Shlomo Benizri was convicted of bribery, conspiring to commit a crime and obstruction of justice on 1 April 200. And this is what you support? Well for those of us who actually live in Israel and not in London , we have to live with this criminal party not you!

In his Mishneh Torah (Book of Judges, Chapter 2:14), Maimonides lays down the following law: "A Torah scholar is forbidden to sit in judgment unless he knows those who are to sit with him, lest those associated with him be not qualified, and he would thus be not a member of a tribunal but a party to a confederacy of faithless men." no genuine Torah scholar would enter the Knesset or any political party. Paul Eidelberg

same as Chabad in Galut. That will maybe help 2 jews but will encourage many other to go in India knowing they can rely on Chabad in case ... Don't steal G.d's seat. He is the One to heal and save us from Egypt, just remember in case ...

put a smile on my face this morning. At least we are consistant in our outlook. I think there is ample evidence in the erosion of the status quo by "secular" elements who don't understand or fully respect Judism, take the interference of the high court in what are halachic isssue ,such as who is a Jew, and thats just one example.

The "who is a Jew" issue has civil consequences too . Not only religious . If the High court decides that someone is Jewish , he/she may make Alyah and become Israeli . Do you want us to respect someone as ovadia yossef ? Religious can respect him for his halachic knowledge , but we , why should we ? because he calls teachers asses , maybe ? Erosion ? Shas and other religious parties want to impose more and more of their rules . Look only at the separate buses , the posters they don't like . TWO examples .

Some of the points you are making are not a questions of law, but of economic sense. Its about selling a product to a specific market. You are seeing to many bearded suspicious characters around. Trust me these you do not need to worry about, be concerned only of those that wear a balaclava. And seriously if you research the subject the HC has got involved in halachic issues and there are many "seculars" who have questioned the wisdom of this.

Separates places in buses for women and men ? destroying a shop selling MP4 players ? hurling stones at cars on Shabbat ? Economic reasons ? Posters with women , are maybe economic , but this is not the reason they destroy them . Do you think that bearded men did'nt support or participate in those acts ? Give me the pure halachic issues the HC was involved in . You make me think at this Besalel who told us that Nobel prize laureats were praying , but could only give one name out of the more than 150 Jewish laureats .

say - I won't travel on your bus if I cannot have seperate seating , I will use another service. Or I won't buy from Shop A that sells pork, but will from Shop B that does not. These are economic choices and what is wrong in exersising this.

the first halfe is full of nombers i do not like nombers i feel that there is suspecion inside the auther . but sure in the second halfe it is right .. that the benifit of all is better than sector benifits whatever is the sector is

Tell me in wich pure Halachic issues the HC was involved in . If you don't , i have to suppose that you told some "stories" or untrue facts . You came up with this , go ahead and answer . OK , you won't travel in non "kosher" buses , or buy at some shops . But you won't allow me to sit where i want in one of those buses [ PUBLIC transport ! not privete ones ] You would like to shut those shops , you don't allow public transport on Shabbat . So you are interfering in MY life , and i not in your . PS : do you have separate seatings in buses in London ?