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Light versus darkness
Uri Orbach
Published: 30.11.08, 19:38
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1. Only if we fight for it
Mike Jefferson ,   Washington, D.C.   (11.30.08)
The forces of good will win only if we are prepared to identify and engage the enemy. Currently, the west is blaming itself and Israel for the predicament of Islamic fascism. If they wake up, we may actually have a chance.
2. I'm waiting for all Arab apologists
Tahl ,   Israel   (11.30.08)
To criticise this article as racist, hateful, what have you... Anything instead of looking directly at the reality of the "religion of peace"... And then spinning the blame of this terror, on Israel's "occupation". Sean, Chanlau, English Person, American, observer - where are y'all?
3. great article.end
jorge ,   mexico   (11.30.08)
4. Considering the circumstances
David ,   TA, MafiaCity   (11.30.08)
I can understand slips into logical fallacies generalizations and stereotyping and racism This piece is a case example
5. great article in which every word is true
ezra ,   canada   (11.30.08)
6. Light versus darkness
Alan D. Dale ,   London, England   (11.30.08)
Well, when I look at it all the way from London, darkness apperas to be more jewish than islamic:when you starve 2 million people to near death, you will expect some reaction. Lacking nukes, this is the best they can do:perhaps if they had their nuke you would not dare to do what you blatantly do in front of all the silently watching world. Sorry, but Israel is the darkness trying to blow out the candle of light, not the other way round.
7. Beautiful
Me ,   Israel   (11.30.08)
Thank you so much for that article. Reminding us, with all of our terrible division, what unites us all.
8. Sometimes, David, those generalizations have more...........
Cameron ,   USA   (11.30.08)
of a ring of truth to them than many a soul out there would like to admit. What an absolute PR disaster this is for the Islamic World.
9. The Chabad rabbis explain Koheleth ch2 v13
avrom ,   bet shemesh   (11.30.08)
The wisdom from stupidity is like the light from the darkness.The Chabad Rabbis explain the more light is obtained from darkness than from light itself. one explanation could be that inexplicable events enable massive amounts of goodness to occur
10. the title is probably Correct
augustine e johnson ,   birmingham-usa   (12.01.08)
the title is probably correct -- islamic jihadist would probably fit in the evil column -- israel, the people of israel , the G-d of israel into the good column.
11. Of course condemning the killing but why this happening?
George ,   Canada   (12.01.08)
One sided article ...Why? Noble Jewish??? In our time there is no noble Turning their home into a lively Jewish embassy!!?? Correctly Zionist or Mossad nest . Giant terror organizations such as al-Qaeda, and immense Islamic Brotherhood movements and Jihad groups are not marginal……15-20 years ago all these organizations didn’t exist and by the way the secular socialism was in its boom in Arab world. They are all the result of Israeli occupation, the injustice and by live dictator rulers supported by the West like Saudi Kings and other in the name of oil. These despicable Mujahidin also view themselves as the emissaries of God and of their religion…. Agree We have not yet seen a case where a group of Chabadniks took over a bus or hotel and held hostages…… Israel holding two million hostage in Gaza There are good Jews and good Muslims, just like there are violent and evil ones…… Agree ….and must continue there are bad Jews and bad Muslims too .. and why no body has the courage to write about bad Jews?? In order to succeed in this battle, we must realize that this is yet another struggle between the sons of light and the sons of darkness. …Again this is biblical ideology that can lead to no where accept war.
12. Example of the bad winds within Islam?
Steve ,   US   (12.01.08)
My goodness Uri Orbach! This is not an example of "bad winds within Islam." This IS Islam Uri. Please wake up Uri. Wake up. Please!
13. Wafa Sultan has it right...
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (12.01.08)
Syrian-American psychologist Wafa Sultan has argued that we're not dealing here with a clash of civilizations. Rather it is a clash between civilization and barbarism. We know on which side of this divide the jihadists stand. The so-called moderate Muslims haven't made clear where they stand.
14. Light versus darkness # 2
Alan D. Dale ,   London   (12.01.08)
Sorry to disturb the cosyness of righteous chatter of all we, the "civilised" christians and jews are engaged to: did you hear about hundreds of Nigerian muslims been killed in the last 2 days in Nigeria because they moved into a christian majority town to look for jobs and a better a life? Or will we wait until the muslims say "enough" and burn a church-full of christians before we notice and lament about how evil these muslims were? By the way how many wedding processions need one to bomb before the receiving party will have a right to retaliate and not called names? Cry for Yisrail: there will be no peace with these 1,5 billion "mad mollahs" any more before the sionist state is no more. They will try until the balance of interest of the west will tip on their side and Israel is history... Sorry guys, we will have to take your nukes first: you don't think that we would risk London for the lot of you do you? OK, we are "goyim" but not that "goyim" after all...
15. to #2 this copy in past from Israeli Debkafile... read
George ,   Canada   (12.01.08)
The captured terrorist, Azam Amir Kasab told police his group was sent with a specific mission to target Israelis to avenge the Palestinians. That is why they targeted Nariman House (Chabad Center), the Times of India reports
16. irgun
(12.01.08)
you forgot to mention irgun and Stern... they DID carried out bombings and killings...
17. Alan D. Dale, Dimbulb
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.01.08)
"when you starve 2 million people to near death, you will expect some reaction." Who are these 2 million people starving to death? You can't be talking about Gaza--the stores are full of food and cafes are full of fat people. So what the F--- are you talking about? Are you on some kind of drugs?
18. To idiot in Canada
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.01.08)
"Israel holding two million hostage in Gaza" Gilad Shalit held hostage in Gaza. Gazans regularly shelling Israeli towns. How do "hostages" hold other hostages and launch rockets at cities? You must be taking the same drugs as Alan D. Dumb
19. George & Allan you all smoking something?
David ,   Detroit USA   (12.01.08)
Your comments drip with hatred & are riddled with 2 decades of propaganda inspired lies. What occupation? In case you haven't noticed, the Palietinian Authority and Hamas rule their own territories. Starve 2 million people? How? By closing your border to a territory that relentlessly fires missles at your civilian population on a daily basis, whether the borders are open or not? That swear to destroy you & kill your families? Israel is a monster for this? You would do no better! Why doesn't Hamas bring in their supplies through their other border, Egypt? Why are you not accusing Egypt of starving them? Why do you not accuse the corrupt Hamas & Palestinian governments of taking the world's contributions for their citizens welfare & pocketing it or spending it all on bombs and guns? If you want to see those who truly hate others, look in the mirror and then look at whom you defend.
20. #6, Alan Dale, representing dark lies
David ,   Boston, USA   (12.01.08)
I guess you represent dark lies. AFterall, Israel doesnt do what you suggest, but truth doesnt seem to matter to England and the lies it spreads in the press. Of course the $20 million worth of Hot Houses given to the 1 million Gazan by Jews and destroyed by the Arabs doesnt count, nor does the fact that the Gazans are committing war crmines against Sderot and the other seam communities. Of course the fact that Egypt has its border closed with Gaza doesnt matter either, since it doesnt fit the racist press and its hatred of Israel. Come away from the dark, and into the light. Support peace, not appeasing evil.
21. #8, Cameroon PR disaster? its commonplace in Islamic world
David ,   Boston, USa   (12.01.08)
You may not see it in the liberal press but its been going on for a while all over the world against Hindus in India, Bhudists in Thailand, Christians in the Arabs world, Jews everywhere, and everywhere in Africa. This is NOT an isolated incident, but a greater problem with Islamic practice today. While most Muslims arent terrorists, most terrorists are Muslim. Its not coincidence.
22. All this spinning is making me sick
DJ Sac ,   Tel Aviv   (12.01.08)
It IS as simple as the article examines. ARABS: stop blaming other people (Israel) and using it as an acceptable excuse for terrorism. The "seige" of Gaza is as simple to break down as this article.... I understand that there are some good/smart Palestinians out there. So for those that can read this, here is a concept to pass on to your brothers...It is very easy to understand.... Stop bombing and shooting things aimed at Israelis AND then food, gas, and supplies will get to you. ALL OF YOU SPINNERS ARE AS PATHETIC AS THE PALESTINIAN LEADERS. You are so wrong. It is a matter of good vs. evil and you need to get a life.
23. Light versus darkness
Riverside Ranger ,   Liverpool   (12.01.08)
The kindest way of putting it, Alan, is that the darkness surrounding you stops you from seeing the facts. Israel is under constant attack from Gaza. Supplies could come in from Egypt to Gaza if the Egyptians wanted it. Israel sends essential supplies through to Gaza, even though it has no legal or moral responsibility to the population there. The party elected to power in Gaza includes in its charter the Islamic prediction that, at the end of days, every Jew will be killed. Hamas and its fellow-jihadists are clearly doing their best with rockets, grenades and guns to bring that religious prediction to practical reality. Every civilised person can pray that jihadists and Iranians never get their nuke.
24. wow tht was beautifull
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25. Did you dare... speak the truth?!?
jacob ,   usa   (12.01.08)
In years of reading papers and web articles, I have hardly chanced upon someone speaking the truth so freely and frankly, like Uri has! It's just not proper nowadays; it attracts all sorts of labels and libels and unlikables... To just get up there and frankly state the clear-as-day truth?? I honestly didn't think I'd see it. Surely the sworn enemies of common sense (the unwitting companions of the sworn enemies of mankind) will condemn such an honest look at our world... Go Chabad; go Jewry! It was not one segment, but all Jewry who were attacked - and indeed, all truth-loving, honest and kindhearted people.
26. Well Put !!! It is really as simple as that.
rh ,   Modiin Israel   (12.01.08)
Many People are always on the lookout for a twist, a conspiracy theory. They take these simple truths and paint the Jews as the evil, megalomaniacs and the Muslims as the poor victims.
27. "And light shall win."
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (12.01.08)
Yes, it will, Uri. Yes, it will. But, do you know where the light really is, Uri?
28. Uri.. That's nonsense
Majeed ,   Somalia   (12.01.08)
Uri... Don't mix-up things to make incorrect argument.. I first want to say who ever planned and executed this evil act is indeed evil and not human. However I have to say the following: The ppl in India are fighting for Kashmir and those in Somalia are fighting against Ethiopia and those in Gaza.. well you know who they are fighting.. Unfortunately, evil forces like Israel, are targeting land and people who are poor and vulnerable and most of the time these are in Muslim areas... Those people who fight back, usually use religion to support their argument and strengthen their position.. at least morally since they lack material power.. This has happened thru out history.. whenever ppl are under threat or pressure they turn to religion, and in this case and as I said .. most instances of oppression and occupation are happening in Muslim areas... so don't blame Islam. if Somalis were Christian they would raise the Christian flag while fighting.. and if Gazans were Jews (that would be fun!) they would raise the flag of Torah to fight back.. One last thing, Islam's only distinctive thing is that it deeply advocates freedom, dignity and sacrifice. I guess that does not go well with imperialism.
29. what about the 200+ muslims murdered in Nigeria?
ahamad ,   canada   (12.01.08)
30. Beautiful Article
Menachem   (12.01.08)
Yasher Koach!
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