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Satmar family: No State involvement in son's funeral
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 01.12.08, 14:12
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1. paying for funeral for anti zionist??
mohter from north   (12.01.08)
how much money do secular Zionist s have to "donate" to our religious brethern? maybe the Jihad or the Hamas should chip in??
2. Israel IS exploiting the victims.
Secular Jew ,   Raanana   (12.01.08)
This wasn't an attack on Israeli interests. It was an attack on Jews. Nor was Israel the biggest victim in terms of foreign casualties; America was.
3. #1 - that's uncalled for
Shalom   (12.01.08)
Whatever you think of Satmar, they are NOT asking for Israel to pay their expenses - just the opposite. Let them grieve as they wish; this is not the time for politics
4. Mother from North, SHAME ON YOU!
M   (12.01.08)
In a time like this stop accounting and counting, he suffered a terrible death, maybe suffered terrible torture (in other media info) and all you can do is count money? He still was a brother, a Jew.
5. im sure they have no problem
JL ,   israel   (12.01.08)
accepting the NII state funds....
6. And that poor Mexican
Zohar ,   Tel Aviv   (12.01.08)
woman's family won't get anything. That's horrible! Give him nothing - that's what I think.
7. to numbers 3 & 4 don't be naive!!
mother from north   (12.01.08)
the Satamars went to Iran to denounce Israel ... I grieve for us that we have more place in our hearts (and pockets) for our brethen then they have for us. I support them they do not support me in any way!!
8. You people turn my stomach. You have no problem when the
;Mike ,   Israel   (12.01.08)
body is flown for free, you have no problem waiting and expecting Israeli soliders to come to the rescue, you have no problem taking advatage of Israeli goverment handouts to all lazy cowered who dont do a thing for the state, you simply make me sick, the whole lot of you should be deported to a country we Israel deem fit for you. The sooner the better.
9. Cover it with Hamas flag and bury him in Gaza
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (12.01.08)
10. When You See What Monsters
Lawrence Tendler ,   Zefat Israel   (12.01.08)
Zionism has produced : Cheats ,Crooks,Pimps,Drug Dealers,Murdering Gangster scum,Terrorist sympathisers,Liars,Hebrew-speaking Goyim, who can blame any self-respecting decent jew for being anti-zionist.
11. embarrassing
Ilana   (12.01.08)
and shameful to involve politics. Anti zionists? Then he shouldnot live in Israel and neither should his family. Ihope theydo not get any type of finance from the Israeli gov!
12. i don't see the big deal. don' t put flag on him!
(12.01.08)
a tallit is all he needs. rest in peace all who perished.
13. The family have spoken - let it be
Talula ,   Israel   (12.01.08)
There wasn't any mention of the financial side though. Are they going to want to receive the money? I'm just wondering, before I comment further.
14. mother from the north- you're disgusting
(12.01.08)
let the poor family do as they please - and even if he was not a zionist, a) why is that your business and b) does that mean he is not a jew?
15. recognition is not required
joshua ,   miami u.s   (12.01.08)
While #1 may be blunt there should be an amendment to the terorism law, someone who is against the state of israel or does not recognize it should not need nor want recognition or financial assistance from the state due to their death, actually we should not provide any social secutrity, unemployment or other benefits in such a case. and to the ones bashing #1 ...... the state did not recognize the lady and mother who was in the process of Aliya, someone who has decided to tie their fate with israel
16. Another really really intelligent comment from #11 NOT!!!
Talula ,   Israel   (12.01.08)
17. Anti-Zionist Satmar
Zionist ,   Manchester, UK   (12.01.08)
The Satmar and other ultra-Orthodox are a disgrace. What are they doing living in Israel if they don't belive in the state? Oh yeah, sorry, forgot -- they're studying Talmud all day and refusing to defend the Jewish homeland. They'd be better off with the other Israel-haters in Baghdad, Cairo and Damascus.
18. OPPPSSS I meant 10 not 11 sorry!
Talula ,   Israel   (12.01.08)
19. He is an Israely and should be burried as one as well.
Daniel Juck ,   Scotland, Aberdeen   (12.01.08)
He died because he was Jewish and and Israely despite the fact that he had different views according to his family. Israel should protect its citizens because that is the only hope that we have left and a country where we can be totally free for what we are.
20. # 17 or in Manchester?
DM ,   Amsterdam   (12.01.08)
Zionism? please tell me what is that? And why are we as Jews forced to believe more in zionism than in Judaism? Please tell me?
21. Satmar victim-don't pay
Alon Bart ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.01.08)
Can't we file suit in the Supreme Court and stay all action while we decide? It would serve his anti-Zionist body right.
22. the family then should pay for their own
svietka from shomron   (12.01.08)
flight and evacuation/rescue of the body and pay for everything themselves-then no prob--no need for the flag.
23. #7 wrong. Neturei-Karta went to Iran. Satmar denounced them.
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (12.01.08)
Satmar, for all its faults and petty politics, doesn't support enemies of the Jewish people. Ahmadinejad and Iran's current regime fit that definition right from the start. Neturei-Karta have, I might add, become outcasts from pretty much every Orthodox Jewish community on the planet. Including Satmar's. Satmar were some of the most vocal opponents of NK after their Iranian visit, actually, as some of the NK members were former Satmar Hassidim.
24. #13 Talula, seeing as this is Satmar, likely not.
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (12.01.08)
Satmar Hassidim are those in the ultra-Orthodox public who cut themselves away from the state in any way possible. No benefits, as it's "dirty money" by their beliefs. Twisted as their beliefs about the state are, at least they go with them all the way.
25. Number 5 and 7
Bob Sakamoto ,   Chicago   (12.01.08)
Mark Twain once said "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts". While is certainly is fun to overgeneralize and assume information (especially when talking about "those people" ) the truth might also be somewhat relevent. 5: Satmar does not take one Shekel from the state and 7. Satmar did not go to Iran. (It was the Neturei Karta. But hey, they all look the same, they must all think and act the same)
26. Dont waste our taxes let ehm pay for the airfare also!
Adam S ,   Jerusalem   (12.01.08)
27. Dial it down people, this is neither the time or the place
Jacob Blues ,   New York City   (12.01.08)
Let the family be with its grief. Aryeh Leib Teitelbaum was murdered and his family has a right to sit shiva without having others squabble over whether or not there should be a flag, or have people bicker on the internet about the rights or wrongs of Haredi practices or the Israeli government. It's not as if either situation is going away tomorrow. But just as we seperate so many other things; meat from milk, shabbat from the weekdays, holidays from regular days, and so on, so too, do we seperate the time of mourning from regular activities. We may not be sitting shiva personally, but members of the Jewish people were murdered, our 'extended family' if you will, was gunned down, leaving shattered lives in their wake. All of us, should at least be mindful of this before jumping down each other's throats.
28. RESPECT YOUR DEAD !!!!
Ezra haGuer ,   Canada   (12.01.08)
Shame on YNet and the talkbackers for playing politics on the blood of a martyr.
29. to Zionist in England about antiZionists in Israel
Ezra haGuer ,   Canada   (12.01.08)
These Hassidim were in Eretz Yisrael before the creation of the state. These Hassidim, just by living there, are a million time more zionists than you.
30. Leave the family alone, they work and pay taxes
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (12.01.08)
I don't agree with Satmar, but this businessman paid his own way and his family provides for themselves. Let them grieve the way they want to and let them honor the deceased in their own way.
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