Settlers to Ethiopian troops: Niggers don't expel Jews
Danny Adeno Abebe
Published: 04.12.08, 11:39
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1. Dumb move
Josh B ,   Rehovot, Israel   (12.04.08)
Calling the Border Police names is committing suicide. They're not exactly known for their sensitivity. As for hurling racial epithets at them, non-white soldiers are good enough to guard your children and to fight your wars, so you can't have it both ways.
2. enough of incitment against these youth
elie   (12.04.08)
3. Heros?
Nadav ,   Misgav   (12.04.08)
this where I usually read about: 1. Ynet is lying!! 2. Olmert is worse 3. the only true jews the truth is that these guys are primitive racists. not more/not less
4. Just when you think these people cant sink any lower
Avi ,   Ramat Gan   (12.04.08)
Just goes to show the level of these so called settlers, who are a bunch or racist thugs who for such religious people are very bitter and hateful. oh well i guess thats what religion does to people.
5. More anti-settler propaganda.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.04.08)
Stories like this are just meant to distract from the real issues involved. We are being manipulated by a bunch of crooked politicians, unscrupulous liars & peddlers of deceit & deception. There is no reason to evict anyone from a property whose status is undetermined. The Court DID NOT rule that anyone MUST be evicted, only that the gov't. MAY evict them. There is something fundementally rotten in the idea of evicting anyone BEFORE the legal status of the property is determined. Imagine if you had a legal dispute over some property & the police decided to evict you before legal proceedings, prior to any judgement. Does this sound normal to you? Making a big issue out of statements made in anger by a bunch of wild kids in the heat of the moment is a RED HERRING. The use of IDF soldiers to evict people from their property for political motivations is an abuse of the IDF.
6. Slander- there are Ethiopian/dark-skinned Jews in Hebron
JD ,   J-m   (12.04.08)
Including in the Peace House.
7. The rabbi's that are in charge of these idiots
Yair Ben-David ,   Jerusalem   (12.04.08)
And kick some sense into these morons. Calling anyone niggers is moronic,and abusing the Druze is just as bad.DId any of these Giborim ever serve in the IDF.
8. Racist it is, but Kushi does not translate as Nigger
It just means black ,   Still no excuse!   (12.04.08)
Nigger has 200 years of American slavery, segregation and racism attached to it. To translate kushi as nigger is inciting and irresponsible. The situation is bad enough, without pouring petrol on the flames. The settlers are lawbreakers, violent and many are racist towards the Arabs, but in ethnic dispute terms, not like the Ku Klux Klan. The black soldiers are Israeli Jews like the settlers and many are religious. Some of the settlers are of Ethopian origin themselves. No-one from abroad reading this article could possibly understand any of that.
9. Stupid Kids
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (12.04.08)
Where are their parents?
10. YNET forgot to interview the teachers of these bochrim -
Michael   (12.04.08)
Interviewing the teachers and community leaders would have put an end to the issue, instead of leaving this matter unresolved, as though Israel needs to be resigned to an unacceptable state of affairs. I'm willing to bet those out-of-control students are insulting everybody on an equal opportunity basis, because their family's homes in Hebron are in a beseiged situation (everyone else against them). A defamatory article becoming "front page news" at this time, at the same moment while Defense Minister Ehud Barak is trying to convince the High Court to evict the residents of Peace House without a hearing on the evidence of the validity of their deed, is timed suspiciously. This article's headline smells like hot-off-the-government-newswire propaganda to ignite outrage and separation of identity from those evil Jews who claim a legal right to live in Hebron. Why, oh why, YNET??? YNET shouldn't be just a clicking-mill that publishes every rumor pumped onto the newswires. YNET should set an example to other journalists by ethically reporting the overall context, and interviewing those who are responsible to create an acceptable conclusion.
11. How come there are never any names attached to these slurs?
Joel B ainerman ,   Tekoa   (12.04.08)
If you notice- there are never any names attached to comments supposedly made by settlers- nor those that are apparently the target. I assume it is easiar for the journalists to simply make up the quotes- besides- nobody is going to check anyway, right?
12. Terry
MARK ,   israel   (12.04.08)
You say it all and nothing need be added. I was going to suggest that you consider politics but on second thoughts your standards are far too high for that
13. #8 - no and yes, but
Dorothy Friend ,   Tel Aviv   (12.04.08)
Kussi means Negro, not Black, and what counts is Black people do not like that term. So there is no justificaiton to use it unless one wants to deliberately hurt. The N----- word is "Cushoon"
14. Another bottle of Raviv Champagne?
Gideon Reader   (12.04.08)
As in the previous and unsubstantiated hollow claims by the Kadima government of bombs, shootings and beatings against the left by the "EEEEEEVIL SETTLERS" a whif of the sour body odor of Agents Provocateur is in the air. Expressions and phrases not geographically or characteristic common to a group being attributed to them brings into play my new, inproved and upgraded "BS Meter" which appears to be flashing red lights with sirens going off. Lets go to the tape, please. Absent anything more than just another allegation thhis one goes into the X-file with the Sternhell folder.
15. Terry , you wrote it
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (12.04.08)
The gov't. MAY evict them , you wrote . But when the gov't. is doing it , you sa : "there is no reason..." So tell me why has the court allowed to evict them if there is'nt any reason [ for you ] . You also say in your last sentence : from their property . Are you sure that it is their property ? But even if they hav''nt any reason to expell them , to call Israeli police officers : niggers , is a shame . NOBODY , in any condition or for any reason may do it . We have suffered more than enough from racism , for not doing it to members of OUR people .
16. niggers
colin   (12.04.08)
Many jews died by the hands of Italians who at thier trial in Nurenberg said BUT THOSE WERE OUR ORDERS. Now Ethiopians can say the same excuse when called niggers.The cowardly commanders give illegal orders to evict jews.REMEMBER THE SHOAH!!!!!!!!
17. The Flowers of Zionist Youth
Areilush ,   Ramat Ha Golan   (12.04.08)
These tugs are not the flowers of Zionism, they are it's weeds. Throw these kids in jail and throwaway the key.
18. Well If That's The Worst Thing
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.04.08)
If that is the worst thing to happen to the guy in his life to be called a nasty name then he is a happy Bunny,not a Jungle Bunny I hasten to add before you all start writing in with complaints.It has been a long time since I have read such journalistic Bullshine."Mummy ,this boy at school called me a bad name" Meanwhile 5000 centrifuges of doom are spinning today not a million miles from here.
19. I Must Be Really Dumb
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.04.08)
I believe everything I read in Newspapers....
20. sounds like more Ynet slanting the facts
Bernie ,   formerly Seattle   (12.04.08)
how do you say nigger in hebrew? Kushi? Kushi means one from Kush Kush is hebrew for Ethiopia. Schvatrzer? that is not hebrew it is yiddish and also does not mean nigger it means black which is what the blacks prefer to be called, after all Ethoipians in Israel are not Afro-Americans. so are you advocating a new term Afro Israelis? So you mean they say the N word in English? who taught them English slang? Why is it you are constantly slandering the right wing, the hareidim, those whom Labor governments sent to live in the territories?
21. Question is.....
Raoul ,   Israel   (12.04.08)
what will be done about these clearly racist epithets? This may be a red herring, as Terry suggests, but nevertheless stinks - on the spur of the moment or not.
22. #8 & #12 ... I resent being manipulated.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.04.08)
#8 - As you said, Kushi does not have the same connotation as nigger does in English. When I was a student in the US (quite some time ago), I frequently heard people say, "Do it yourself, I'm not your nigger." Strangely enough, in the Arab country I come from, people said basically the same thing, the word for slave being synonymous with black. The use of this word as a translation is a propaganda tactic. #12 - I very much resent being manipulated by creep politicians & their media helpers. I don't like being taken for a fool. The IDF soldiers are being used as pawns which is as unscrupulous as it gets. I'm not thrilled with the behavior of some of these kids but if anything is undermining the authority of the State, it is our unscrupulous & unprincipled politicians. What's the rush in evicting people before a judgement on the legal ownership of the property? On the theoretical assumption that the Court will render an impartial & fair judgement based on evidence & if they rule that the property does not belong to the Jewish purchaser, then an eviction is a proper procedure. None of us know the truth because none of us have examined the evidence. That is for a court to decide, not Mr Barak. And you're right - I couldn't go into politics in our current system because I don't believe in lying, sleezy & slimy deals, & being unprincipled - and that is exactly the problem in our system, only the mediocre political hacks are willing to dirty themselves by swimming in a sewer while generally, people of competence, principles, & honesty avoid politics as a profession.
23. Funnily Enough....
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.04.08)
I said the same thing to Mr.Barack Obama yesterday in our weekly telephone conversation.Needless to say he was NOT amused.
24. Not Nice
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.04.08)
25. If True A Disgraceful Thing To Say
Lawrence Tendler ,   Safed Israel   (12.04.08)
I like to laugh at most things but these kind of insults are beyond the pale,and people who talk like that need to be ashamed of themselves.One cannot be wrong and strong...
26. Sticks & stones, etc., etc.
Gideon Reader   (12.04.08)
As Prisoner #18 says,... If that is the worst thing that ever happens,... In my 34 plus years in professional law enforcement, I have been called everything that one CAN be called. It does not stick and it does not stain. Words do not cut, bruise or make you bleed; nor provide any lasting injury IF the folks who made the personnel selection were correct in their hiring practices. The article uses a tracially charged and negative term common in the U.K. and USA. It does not use the Hebrew word Kushi, or I would have dismissed the sense and intent or the article immeadiately.
27. #16 - Colin, did you go to school?
Sean ,   London, UK   (12.04.08)
"Many jews died by the hands of Italians who at thier trial in Nurenberg " Firstly, the Italians didn't kill any Jews during the war. Italian Jews were deported after the Germans invaded and instituted the Republic of Salo. When the Fascists were still in charge huge numbers of Jews from France were given sanctuary much to the disgust of the Nazis. Also, the Italians were allies by the end of the war and as such were not tried at Nuremberg. (I'm no fan of fascism, but I am a fan of accuracy!)
28. Kushi: Usage in Ancient Egyptian Times
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (12.04.08)
In researching one of my books, The Mirrored Sphinxes, the story of Moses in the house of Pharaoh T*uth-Moses and Khat-shepsut (NOT Ramses, the latter being erroneously identified based on an update to the city of Pi-Tom, which Ramses renamed after himself, by a later copyist of the Scriptures), I examined the early usage of the term. The earliest extant usage of "Kushi" (or "Kushit") seems to be a general reference by the superpower Egyptians to all Africans other than Egyptians, who felt distinct and superior to all other Africans. To the Egyptians, there were, on the African continent, Egyptians and Kushim (the plural form). Neither Hebrews nor Egyptians of that era referred to Arab tribes of the Sinai as Kushim. Thus, calling Moses' wife a Kushit referred not to Tziporah, but to an Egyptian wife--Queen Khat-shepsut--who had been disowned by the Egyptians, thereby being regarded by the Egyptians as an ordinary African, i.e., a Kushit. Miryam's remark was directed not at Tziporah, a converted Arab, but at Queen Khat-shepsut, who had abandoned the Egyptian throne for Moses -- for which, 20 years later, her son and successor chiseled her history, considered by Egyptians to be a disgrace, off of the Karnak wall. Other connotations seem to have evolved later. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews
29. #15 Charles, Petach Tikvah.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.04.08)
I assume you are not a lawyer & if you are, I wouldn't want you defending me. The court has no reason to intervene since their ruling states that the gov't. MAY evict (not MUST). Without a definitive judgement on the legal ownership, there is indeed no reason to evict. It is a political decision not a legal decision. No, I don't know the legal status of ownership & neither do you. It is for a court to decide, hopefully ,impartially & fairly, based on evidence. You have, I assume, an idea of what evidence means? I didn't say I condone the use of any kind of racial epitaphs by anyone. But that is not the issue involved - the ownership of the property is a legal question & has nothing to do with the poor behavior of a bunch of kids. The fact that someone used a demeaning term for Ethiopians is not headline news - given the emotional nature of this dispute, the anger & sense of injustice, some inappropriate language by a few wild kids should not be blown out of all proportion - and I might add that this is not done when the poor behavior is by leftists & anarchist crazies violently demonstrating against the barrier. You are being manipulated in a cold & calculated manner by people with an agenda.
30. Palestinian Propaganda against the Jews
native ,   statless   (12.04.08)
I think you forgot to say this time that this is a Palestinian / Islamic propaganda against a just case. Hamas sent Racist specialist to the West Bank and taught these poor naïve kids to tell their brothers (but with different colour) that they are Non Jews
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