This and other such articles on ynet show a complete misunderstanding of the strictly Orthodox world. Firstly Neturei Karta in Yerusholayim is not a "Hasidic group" although they dress in the same way as Hasidim. Secondly the anger at this statement stems a lot from the western idea (which Haredim like most fundamental religious people in the world do not subscribe to) that it is improper to say that any tragedy was G-ds punishment for a certain action. Any other Haredi group would agree that this was a message to the Jewish people for some wrongdoing they just might disagree on what. The tanach and gemara talk of many bad things happening as punishments for various transgressions of the Torah which if written today in a secular newspaper would cause a storm.

You don't have to convince me that NK are crazy nuts, however Chabad did let Peres speak at the funeral stating we don't know why these thing happen. Not one person challanged him that it's because Israel has been rewarding and apeasing terrorist since Oslo that these things happen. In other words Peres and the Lefties fault. Chabads way is not with the sword the rabbi said, I geuss they are NOT decendents of the Maccabies, Bar Kocva or Irgun

NETUREI KARTA ARE KOFERS WHO GIVES A TOSS WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE KOFERIM AND THATS IT.THEY WILL BURN IN HELL DONT WORRY

so, you might have called it dual Islamic

Shame on YNET! To publish such an article is in extremely BAD TASTE! In factt to give any publicity to these sick, sick people is extremely bad taste.

The following three are called 'koferim ba-Torah': (1) he who says the Torah is not from God: he is a kofer even if he says a single verse or letter thereof was said by Moses of his own accord; (2) he who denies the traditional interpretation of the Torah and opposes those authorities who declare it to be tradition, as did Zadok and Boethus; and (3) he who says, as do the Nazarenes and the Mohammedans, that the Lord has given a new dispensation instead of the old, and that he has abolished the Law, though it was originally divine." Neturei Karta is certainly not the fourth. I don't know why are erev rav considered born-Jews, while Neutrei Karta are not in spite of their Jewish birth.

please don't dignify (and amplify) the foul blasphemies of the NK by giving them newspaper coverage like this. This is not all the news that's fit to print. I repudiate them as Jews.

Their Kartas that are Neutered if I catch up with them! Chabad loves their fellow Jews, NK only love themselves and Ah-mad-ninjah.

N.K. you say :”.. the terror attack on the Chabad House in Mumbai was a punishment from God .. “ NO, N.K., you are WRONG -- it is NOT a punishment from God. Those who glorify YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord, -- they are fixed in their determination to glorify YAHWEH, whether the glorifier is harassed, punished or even threatened to be killed by the envious -, YAHWEH-hating -, God-hating -, Allah-hating people. N.K., to make a distinction between "pure and impure, a Jew and a former Jew, a believer and a heretic" -- shows that you guys have NO, once again, NO spiritual understanding ; NO spiritual vision AT ALL ! You said :”.. the road of death ..” “Road of death” means to have NO spiritual understanding ; means to have NO spiritual vision. SO, dear Sirs from N.K., you are the ones on the road of death -- be certain of THAT !

When Jews refers to ‘koferim’, when Muslims refers to ’kafir’, when Christians refers to ‘heathens’ -- it refers to unbelievers. Unbeliever means one who does not accept a revealed scripture (i.e. Torah, Bible, Koran) to be of Divine origin. A revealed scripture MUST be accepted as having emanated from God -- whether you are from this religion or that religion. It does not matter. You MUST accept ALL revealed scriptures as the presence of God. IF one doesn’t do that -- that will mean that he has NO spiritual vision; that will mean that his spiritual understanding is LACKING. BTW the message of ALL revealed scriptures is the same, namely, that God is the Supreme Father of every living entity, that every living entity is the dear son/ dear daughter of that Supreme Father, that the dear son/ dear daughter has an eternal loving relationship with that Supreme Father, and that the dear son/ dear daughter MUST try to revive his/her LOST relationship with that Supreme Father -- otherwise the dear son/ dear daughter is WASTING his/her time on planet Earth BIG time.

So, NK puts out a flyer saying the death of Jews in Mumbai was God's punishment and all the Zionists are screaming. Yet, when a Palestinian is killed or critically wounded by the IDF, these same Zionists profess satisfaction and approbation. Perhaps that is the real point of NK's definition of punishment. Live by the sword and die by the sword.

For those of you disgusted by the actions of Nuterei Karta. Instead of letting off steam actually do something. Write members of Keneset & Congress to demand that they declare NK a terrorist organization!!!!!!

and been the most esoterric creatures on the surface of this planet !

I am saddened that you find this newsworthy -- even when the entire international Jewish community mourns the victims of Mumbai, all you can find is the handful of mentally disturbed outcasts who embrace Holocast denial in Iran. Shame on you.

We should pray for the souls of Neturei Carta because they have forgotten what it means to be a Jew.

JUST WONDERING, THEY SEEM LIKE RELIGIOUS BUMS TO ME. WONT WORK, WONT DEFEND ISRAEL, SEEM TO HATE ISRAEL. YET YOU CALL THEM JEWS? WHY? IF I WERE AN ISRAELI I'D STOP CRITICISING 'FRIENDS' WHETHER CONSIDERED JEWISH OR NOT. CERTAINLY, THESE ARE NOT TRUE JEWS. THEY ARE ANOTHER 'RELIGIUS CULT' WHO WANT TO DICTATE ISRAELS POLICIES TO BE FASHIONED LIKE THEIRS, CRIMINALLY INSANE TO SAY THE LEAST.

would G-d judge on such a small scale ? but, like the article says, there is roads of life and death, so who really knows until we get on the other side ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lm_xX1Ur43I&feature=channel_page goldieshouse.piczo.com

It's important to get everyone's "opinion" - what about Jews in insane asylums, what do they opine?

Although G-d is omnipotent The Rabbi Moshe Chaim Luzatto [Ramchal ] says in Daas utevenos Shaar Hayichud we can NEVER give a reason as to why things occur

This stuff belongs in the comedy section. No one takes these nuts seriously; they are proof that Hashem has a sense of humour!

I'm Orthodox, not Chasidish. It's well known that many Rabbonim felt the murder of Jews in WWII was the result of the Reform movement (and similar reasons) in Germany. Of course when this was said the uproar from am horatzim quieted anyone who would dare say something like this. Neturei Karta speaks the truth - unfortunately there are so many brainwashed Zionists who care more about the land then the Torah or even human life that they can't tell good from bad anymore. I've been amazed in recent years at how outspoken Chabad has become in support of the State of Israel - completely contrary to the extremely Anti-Zionist views of some of their greatest Rebbe's, including Rav Sholom Dovber Schneersohn. People may hate to hear the truth from Neturei Karta, but if people would follow Judaism rather than Zionism, they would at least be following Hashem. What's the point in calling oneself Jewish if one care more about land than the Torah - that's not Judaism - no matter how much one lies to oneself. Chabad does some wonderful things, but they have completely gone off the derech when it comes to this and this seems to be the result - if they were Anti-Zionist, it's likely this would not have happened.

Excuse me, but who the hell are you to decide what's Judaism? You really got some nerve. I'm a proud Zionist living in Israel, I feel it's the Jewish homeland, I acceptingly pay my taxes to Israel, I route for the Israeli national basketball and soccer teams, I served in the IDF, I'm completely secular and hardly observe any religious laws, I eat and watch TV in Yom Kippur, I don't intend to have a religious marriage, and I voted for Shinui twice. And yet you cannot take my Judaism away from me! Judaism is not about blindly following orders from some ancient book, even if it's called Torah. Judaism is first and foremost a state of the heart, being good inside and doing good deeds to others, in the SPIRIT of the Torah. It's also about identity, and connection to my heritage and my people. People even less connected than I am to the Jewish religion, perished in the Holocaust for their Judaism. If they were Jewish enough to die because of it - then I'm certainly Jewish enough to live as a Jew! And, since I don't strip you of your Judaism, even though I despise your opinions - then you don't strip us Israelis' Judaism. And what's this obsession of yours against us wanting this land? What is wrong in wanting our own piece of home, wanting to be able to protect ourselves, and to have our own place where no one would hunt us down for being Jewish? And answer me THIS now: I bet you're an ardent supporter of the Palestinian cause, in their desire to have their own land. Well then, why should the Palestinians get to have their own national home, but not us? If you want, you can stay in the USA. But in my opinion, having our own country, and our backbone, certainly beats being a meek, weak little minority in someone else's country, being afraid of your own shadow, constantly pleasing your gentile master, only to be scapegoated, blamed and persecuted again and again throughout history. All those Jews murdered by Haman, Khmelnicki, Alexander the Third, King Ferdinand and Eichmann - were they all die-hard Zionists?

Chabad will share Chabad with others , not Torah . I assisted once at a [ paying] Seder . More chabad propaganda than Hagaddah explanation fot the many [ not me ] who needed it . Yes they are friendly to every Jew , seculars included . But that's dangerous for simple minded people who can easyly be influenced by their kindness , hospatility and so . This all of course does'nt condone those NK words , the contrary , they should be wiped off the living .

The group NK involved is no more than 10 members, and is already condamned by other NK wich see them as mosrim. A bad joke : If one of them is (G.. forbid)killed by islamists they surely will thank these for getting them rid of a crypto-sionist!

Chabad, admit it, you uproot the torah look at the facts: what have you done to bring any jew closer to being observent? Have you ever even gone to another country to make sure any jews there, living or traveling have a jewish plave to go eat, or spend a shabbat? Do you have any shlucim teaching anything anywhere? have you ever made public statements about attending a shoa deniers conference? Ever even go to one? Ever have your leaders hug a man who would whipe the country with millons of jews in it off the planet if he could? We all know the answers to these questions, and i know if i asked this to the neturia karta i would get some diff answers. So chabad admit it they got you