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Assad seeks Israeli stance on Golan
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Published: 16.12.08, 11:47
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1. Tell him to take a hike!
Leah ,   Israel   (12.16.08)
2. Into the trash bin with Syrian proposals.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.16.08)
Not a meter, not a centimeter, not a millimeter. Nothing. We will never cede the Golan.
3. Absolutely unacceptable
Ilan ,   Ariel   (12.16.08)
Putting Syria on the Kinnert is tantamount to giving the an equal share in the water there. This is a no compromise issue.
4. Is Asshead serious?
David ,   Zichron Yaacov   (12.16.08)
Sounds like a bad joke.
5. Chutzpa
Yehudi ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.16.08)
The Golan is part of the Holy Land of Israel. Assad has chutzpa to expect Israel to give him any part of our land.
6. Golan is 100% Syrian territory historically
Sayid ,   Sweden   (12.16.08)
and rightfully. It is 0% ashkenazi, 0% Ethiopian, 0% Yemenite, 0% Sephardi.
7. Labor calls on Kadima, Likud to hold debate between parties'
Yonatan ,   Jerusalem   (12.16.08)
Pines-Paz head of the Labor Party's PR = propaganda campaign, is concerned about insult to the public's intelligence, where do you live? or better still tell me what mind altering techniques do you use..man oh man the Labor Party has done nothing except insult the public's intelligence since 1993, Its more like the Labor Party insulting its own limited intelligence with the likes of Peres, Perets, and Barak, the King of Limited Intelligence,
8. Golan is Israeli land
Matityahu ,   Slovenia   (12.16.08)
It was taken as a punishment when the Syrians (combined with Jordan Egypt and others) were trying to annihilate the Israeli population. Anything else?
9. #6 - when was Golan Syrian?
Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (12.16.08)
It was not so in the recent past as it was Ottoman, and prior to that it was not Syrian either. So from where is this claim that it was historically Syrian? Also, historically land captured in a defensive war belongs to the winner - Arab run UN aside.
10. maybe so, sayed#6, but....
div   (12.16.08)
Guess who has it now?
11. #6. Youre 100% sweden
stephane ,   jerusalem   (12.16.08)
please stay where you are
12. With negotiations they reach nothing ..then?
Indigenous ,   statless   (12.16.08)
Israel, a third grade child can figure it out! With negotiations they reach to nothing, and your talkbacks are even worse than your politics, the Syrians are negotiating for more than 10 years, and nothing from your side (by the way, even it the Torah, Golan heights are Syrians). Abu Mazen is negotiating and receiving nothing. Hezbollah did not negotiate, and got most of the Lebanese lands, all the Lebanese prisoners back. Hamas is not negotiating…they had a truce for some time, Abu Mazen did not. The Israeli message is clear…do not negotiate, the more you show me might the more I will give to you!
13. # 6 SAYED AND WHERE YOU LIVE?
Petra ,   USA   (12.16.08)
WHEN DID MUSLIMS BECOME WELCOME IN SWEDEN? I THOUGHT THEY WERE FRIENDS W/ NAZIS. OH! THAT'S RIGHT MUSLIMS AND NAZIS NEVER DIE THEY JUST KEEP ASSASSINATING OTHERS.
14. # 10 DIV LOL AMEN AND GUESS WHO'S KEEPING IT?
Petra ,   USA   (12.16.08)
THE SYRIAN LOSER CAN HOLD HIS BREATH. FOREVER.... OR, UNTIL ISRAEL STRIKES AGAIN. NO VANQUISHED DICTATES ANY TERMS. HE'S JUST AN ORDINARY LOOOOOOOOSSSSSEEEEERRR.
15. #9 ERIC TRUE, TRUE BUT WHEN HAS
Petra ,   USA   (12.16.08)
ANY ARAB RECOGNIZED ISRAELS RIGHT TO EXIST? THEIR FEEBLE ATTEMPTS TO BETTER ISRAEL ALWAYS FAILS. THANK TO THE G-D OF ISRAEL.
16. To#6 A true scholar of history...
David ,   Shilo ISRAEL   (12.16.08)
Sayid, it is encouraging to hear someone actually concerned with quoting historic facts about the Golan. Therefore, I'll continue where you left off. Yes, the Golan was 'briefly' in Syrian hands in modern history. Historically speaking we could go further back in time, where history is made? Sayid, you would marvel at the many archeological finds of Jewish religeous institutions dating back close on two thousand years, but I'm sure you knew that anyway? Today, you would also marvel at the true spirit of Jewish claim on our precious land. Thankfully, there still exists enough Jews in Israel with a strong backbone that will not yield to endless threats & meaningless logic to steal Jewish land once again for a sniff of possible peace. Sayid, I'm a right wing Jewish settler, and I've got to tell you that I'm more interested in peace with our Arab neighbors then the snivelling spineless cowards who purport to represent the real Jewish people. Only rest assured, that the peace we will offer will be based on just & true ideals, therefore it will be as permanent as our G-d given land to the Jews. Your Allah has given Israel to us Jews, and when we are strong once again you might get to marvel that there is a G-d of Israel! Meanwhile...Shalom, Salem, Peace.
17. #6 "Historically" Syria was not even a country!
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (12.16.08)
... and the borders were defined by the French and the British colonialists! Don't give us that "historically" crap! Now considering that Syria was the attacker in the Independence War and Yom Kippour war and ever since has fueled terrorism against Israel from Lebanon and abroad, lets' talk about COMPENSATIONS! What is the price for 60 years of wars and harrasment? What is the price for terrorizing us? Guess what? We don't need devalued Syrian money! We think that the Golan Heights are a suitable PAYMENT for aggression and terror! GOLAN HEIGHTS = PAYMENT for Syria's agression, wars and terror!
18. "talks with hamas ,abbas and syria"
luis ,   madrid spain   (12.16.08)
"no confies en tu enemigo jamas, porque su maldad lo mismo que el cobre oxida" Eclesiastico 12-10.
19. #12 "negotiations" Arab style
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (12.16.08)
Syrian "negotiations": give us what we lost when we attacked hyou and MAYBE we won't attack you again. Arafat "negotiations": give us the West Bank and Gaza and we will regard this as the first phase in the anihilation of Israel (the PLO Charter). Hamas "negotiations": free all the prisoners so that we can attack you with more terrorists after we wait a bit to gain more strength (ta'adia). After that we want to "liberate" the entire area called now "State of Israel" (Hamas Charter). Hezbollah negotiated and got back terrorists while it "freed" our soldiers. Before that they got their asses beaten royally. Jordan negotiated in good faith and got what they lost but gave us Peace. Saadat negotiated in good faith and Egypt got back all its lands and gave us Peace. If you negotiate in good faith you get something back. Syria, Hamas, PLO NEVER negotiated in good faith so they got more of the same back - any third grade child can figure THAT out! That's why you are "stateless". You should carry your frustration to your leaders not to Israel!
20. Peace for Peace, not land for peace.
USA   (12.16.08)
The Golan is part of Israel now and forever. That is the stance. If you want peace in return for peace, ok. If you don't want peace, that's okay too.
21. to 19
Indigenous ,   statless   (12.16.08)
Sorry I did not get the Hezbollah bit, Hezbollah did not negotiate...they imposed on you to free their pensioners, and give back the bodies of your soldiers. Also they imposed on you to give back their land..do not try to deny your defeat with Hezbollah..they beaten your asses royally.
22. The Golan belongs to Israel legally
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.16.08)
It was purchased by the Rothchild family in the 19th century. I was to be the northen border of Israel until General Allenby illegally stole it and gave it to the French. We have every historic, legal, and moral claim to the Golan. The Arabs are nothing more than thieves. Living on other people's lands. Killing all who dare to oppose their attempts to control the world.
23. For Israel Holding the Golan is more important than peace...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (12.16.08)
For Israel Holding the Golan is more important than peace with the Assad family. Syria should ask Israel for peace and offer in exchange the Golan. But of course that will not happen. So, there is no reason for Israel to be generous with the Mafia regime of Assad. The Assad family has established a hereditary dynasty shored up by repression within, and confrontation and terror abroad. The rule of the Assads is not aimed at improving the lot of their people or forwarding a particular ideology. They changed ideology from secular Arabism to a seemingly impossible confection of pan-Arabism and Islamist extremism. It is pointless to “engage” Syria in dialogue except insofar as it is possible to confront them with their violations and insist that they mend their ways as explained at : http://xrl.us/bjcsd
24. shoreline is NOT Syria's
Ken Jurist   (12.16.08)
The shoreline and the lake were not historically part of Syria. Syria occupied them in 1948 after a war of aggression it launched against Israel. Now if Syria believes the Shoreline is there's following a military campaign, then guess what? Israel has acquired full rights to the Golan two times over!
25. #21 "they beaten your asses royally"
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.17.08)
Really? Because of Hizbullah, 1200 Lebanese died, 4000 Lebanese became disabled and billions of dollars of damage to Lebanon was incurred. Is this your idea of victory?
26. Let's Give It Back......
Dan ,   USA   (12.18.08)
so we can lose more Israeli soldiers trying to take it back after Syria starts to bombard Israel from the hights again. NEVER should be the answer.
27. Here's the legal position
Rob ,   Vermont   (12.19.08)
And Syria can access it right now on amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/9657344522/ref=ord_cart_shr?%5Fencoding=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&v=glance Precis at: http://israelagainstterror.blogspot.com/2008/12/legal-foundation-and-borders-of-israel.html
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