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IDF surprised by Hamas' restrained response
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 29.12.08, 03:21
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1. DUH! Hamas's plan is to draw Israel into the ground war!
meir elazar   (12.29.08)
Hamas knows full well that they have no chance in the current IAF dominated war. Their plan is to regroup and recover operationally as best they can. Then they will booby trap the primary access road and wait for the ground war to begin with snipers, mines, etc. in place. Israel must find a "Jenin" like solution that does not play into Hamas' strategy. I would strongly recommend that we not send in aid but instead begin Operation Joseph where the PAL citizens are forced to leave Gaza for food and survival. The foreign aid will be distributed by Israel/Egypt and people will have to be screened for weapons and be fully identified to catch known terrorists. Ultimately this will separate the Terrorists from the civilians and facilitate the final assault on the terrorists. The PALs should be put up in Tent Cities (real refugee camps not the artificial luxury ones that they have had for 60 years) until the war is fully over and Hamas is totally destroyed.
2. Dont get overconfident
zionist forever   (12.29.08)
Hamas are digging in while the air strikes are going on because they know if they try and carry out a rocket attack they will be dead either before or as soon as the rocket has been fired. When the air strikes end then Hamas will come out their bunkers built with concrete supplied by this government during the so called ceasefire. Underestimate Hamas and it can cost lives.
3. No solutions
Far away ,   Cali   (12.29.08)
Meir, Your drastic proposals would only rebound against Israel. Wiping out the Hamas leadership will only plant the seeds of a worse regime, just as Israel planted the seeds of Hamas to frustrate Fatah's hold on Gaza years ago. All of this will end in tears.
4. they are waiting for the UN
alan ,   capestraight alaska   (12.29.08)
the UN and the International duffus press will save their tuchie strategy. isn't it obvious? they will tell a pack of lies, the international press will print them, the UN will howl once they celebrate the New Year from their vacations in Florida and the op will end.
5. You will be even more surprised when you come in
Salameh ,   Gaza, Palestine   (12.29.08)
Count on it. Only cowards bomard women ad children, houses of worship, homes, schools, hospitals etc. Let's see you on grounds.
6. The IDF knows Hamas better than themselves!
D   (12.29.08)
7. the dumb young arab generation
Yisraeli   (12.29.08)
Like Salameh #5 just dont comprehend Israels power and might. Coz frankly they havent seen it since they were born. Not just them but all the younger generation who have been exposed to endless propoganda of theyre winning and Israel is about to be destroyed. None of them were witness to Israels true power as for many decades Israel hasnt shown it. If they were to ask their older generation who knows from first hand experience they would hear a different answer then what theyre media tells them. Thats if those older ones are not to afraid to tell them the truth. They know Israels might, they have seen it in '67 and '73 or '82 in Lebanon. But the current generation have no concept of Israels true power. Even what is being shown now in Gaza is but perhaps 5% of its capabilities. They dont realise Israel has a large reserve army to call on if needed. Almost every Israeli male 18-60 are not only militarily trained but well capable of destroying their enemies in wars. Not to mention the trained woman and a huge contingent of fighters residing abroad of which most would return to fight if needed in a war. They just have no concept. Also they forget something, not that they would accept it but when they come up against Israel they come up against God himself, The God of Israel. Laugh at this concept they may but one only needs to look at the history books of out-numbered Israel forces winning against all odds. Make war on Israel at your own peril. But they wont understand that, but in the end they will all pay and pay dearly.
8. to 2
smith   (12.29.08)
Hamas can not win the sky, they know it. I think they are waiting for ground invasion. Ground invasion will be the real test for IDF.
9. #5 Salameh you coward
Cynthia ,   USA   (12.29.08)
Bombarding Israel for years is precisely what prompted the response you're receiving. What were you thinking???
10. Good admission, Salameh
Omri ,   sderot   (12.29.08)
You Palestinians are the KINGS of cowards. You've bombed our women and children for months, even timing the rockets for 7:50 to try to get our kids. You've bombed our schools, our hospitals, homes, everywhere. And now, sharmut, you're going to get yours. Say "hi" to Satan.
11. There will be no ground assault.
GloomBoom.com ,   Nashville, USA   (12.29.08)
Olmert and Livni are too weak to fight a real war. Livni is just running an election campaign. Sad.
12. TO Salameh- if you survive to see tomorrow...
Nagmeh Kordadian ,   Los Angeles, CA   (12.29.08)
Yes IDF are cowards. Real men lob crude projectiles at civilian populations.
13. Complete blockade and citizen removal
David ,   Wilton , USA   (12.29.08)
meir elazar has it right. Totally clear out the Gaza and identify everyone within. Give everyone 2 days and all those left are fair game for any onslaught the IDF can unleash. Destroy all tunnels and totally clear out all weapons caches. Use dogs and any technology to find the rockets and destroy them all. Happy New Year !!!
14. #5 only cowards rocket civilians
bernard ross ,   st anns bay jamaica   (12.29.08)
15. Why is the IDF Surprised?
marge, USA   (12.29.08)
Hamas is an organization and no organization can fight off the military of a state, especially the 4th most powerful military in the world. Israel has airplanes, bulldozers, tanks, and the most sophiscated weapons available. Hamas is a self made military with no airplanes, tanks, bulldozers, or sophiscated weapons. Israel's war with Hamas is one-sided and comparable to adults killing very young children. There is no war, only the slaughter of helpless, innocent Palestinians civilians. That's called GENOCIDE!!
16. Salameh, #5
Jason, Ph.D. ,   Charlotte, NC   (12.29.08)
You know full well that Israel is not deliberately targeting civilians, whereas Hamas has been sending out its Kassams trying to kill as many civilians as possible. Of course, war is not an exact science, and civilians will be killed by accident. The difference is intent. When Hamas shoots rocket into Israel, who are they targeting? Has it ever occurred to you that Allah is not on your side with regard to the Arab/israeli conflict, because He detests lies, like the one that you just made? As a Muslim, you are supposed to be submitting to God, not to your own arrogance!
17. Salameh in Gaza
Charles ,   Los Angeles USA   (12.29.08)
" Count on it. Only cowards bomard women ad children, houses of worship, homes, schools, hospitals etc. Let's see you on grounds." The degree of hypocrisy from the Arabs is monumental - the 1000's of Qassams sent to terrorize South Israel don't count as attacks on women and children??? Pathetic.
18. NO cease fire untill" GILAT SHALIT IS FREE "
THE PEOPLE OF ISRAEL   (12.29.08)
NO cease fire untill" GILAT SHALIT IS FREE " NO cease fire untill" GILAT SHALIT IS FREE " NO cease fire untill" GILAT SHALIT IS FREE "
19. # 5 NO THANKS, IT'S YOU
Shlomo   (12.29.08)
WHO ARE COMING OUT OF YOUR RAT HOLES, RUNNING ALL OVER. WE JUST SIT & WATCH THE AIR SHOW
20. I actualy like Meir's Idea.
Efroim ,   Washington DC   (12.29.08)
The problem lies with not letting in food. The world will whine again if that is done. Israel must have the will to wipe out hamas. Thoroughness is important. So far I like the precision hits. Nice job! If we do well here, we will do well in Lebanon when the time is right.
21. Good for Israel
Dennis Foley ,   Omaha, USA   (12.29.08)
I'm glad Israel finally got tired of having hamas sending rockets over. There's no reason to get sucked in just keep hitting them from the air. Use your air power to eliminate all their weapons they've been smuggling in.. God be with Israel
22. #5 So you admit Hamas are cowards! Thank you!
David ,   Los Angeles   (12.29.08)
"Only cowards bomard women ad children, houses of worship, homes, schools, hospitals etc"
23. #5 RE: You will be even more surprised when you come in
Peter   (12.29.08)
>> Count on it. Only cowards bomard women ad children, houses of worship, homes, schools, hospitals etc. How dare you talk about Hamas' indiscrimate rocket attacks like that! Shame on you! lol
24. Don't wait : Eliminate Hamas without delay!
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (12.29.08)
US Congressman David Weldon (R., Florida), who visited Israel a few months ago, said Israel should strike back at Gaza in one fell swoop. “During World War II,” Weldon told the Makor Rishon newspaper, “the U.S. attacked Japan mercilessly. Despite the ethical problems, everyone now agrees that this caused Japan to surrender, thus saving many lives, including Japanese lives. This is the reason I think Israel should hit the Palestinians with one fell swoop, thus defeating them. Otherwise, this cruel situation of today will continue year after year, decade after decade.Just like parents have to protect their children,” Weldon said, “a state must protect its citizens, especially those who are threatened such as those in Sderot. If a country would attack the U.S., I would support turning that country into dust. If it’s right for the U.S., it’s right for Israel.” As described at : http://xrl.us/biz8x
25. To Marge
Mike ,   Tel Aviv   (12.29.08)
Wouldn't it be so much nicer if we sat back and allowed continued bombing of our cities by these unfortunate, helpless, poorly-armed and so very young "children"... I am so sorry we are better equipped and show higher regard for our civilians than those thugs who have the audacity to end the cease-fire and then whine about the consequences. We do regret their civilian casualties, but we care about preventing ours more. Just like any other country in the world. We do not turn the other cheek. Hamas has made its bed -- it's time to sleep in it.
26. #5 -great great absolutely!!!!!
Ilana   (12.29.08)
Only cowards bomb children, women, schools, playgrounds ec!!! So Hamas is one huge gigantic enormous coward!!!!!!!!!!! Each rocket you have sent was intended to do just that!!! Talk about putting your foot in your mouth!! And without the shoe!!! What a great opportunity to laugh at you!! That was really really good.
27. to all zionists>>
Mamud ,   south lebanon   (12.29.08)
I still remember your celebrations and dances during the first days in July war tow years ago, as I remember your tears in the following days. Don't get over confident with your air strikes, there are a lot of goals to achieve and they are not easy. Remember bent Jbiel and Maroun erras in south lebanon, you may understand that the air strikes is useless against Hamas. they are still waiting in Gaza, and believe me they want you to start your ground operation more than you want.
28. Killing is solution!!!!!
james ,   montreal   (12.29.08)
Killing people in Gaza won't help your cause. It fuels more hatred for the next generation of Gazan that will grow up full of hate for their parent killer. Israelis are hyprocite people and have no value of human life especially for non-jews. Shame on you cowards cheering for death of kids and unarmed people...
29. Robert
Marilyn ,   USA   (12.29.08)
In this, the politicans are not allowed to talk so much about America and war, cause of what happened. However the same rules do not apply to another country. By talking mainly about Israel, and adding a few things about the US he might be stepping over the line a little.
30. #28 James - Shooting over 7500 rockets at our civilians is u
meir elazar   (12.29.08)
Unarmed? What would Montreal, Toronto, etc. do if they were bombarded daily and had 7500 rockets shot at them? And the terrorist are deliberately shooting at civilians while we are attempting to focus on the terrorist. So far our accuracy in better than 90% and with the terrorist hiding behind their civilians who aid and abet, 10% is a very acceptable error rate. Their fate lay in their hands and they chose to continue the Qassams and even in the face of Operation Cast Lead they choose rhetoric of irrational terrorists with a charter calling for the Destruction of Israel and the Murder of All Israelis and Jews. In the face of this hideous terrorist enemy I would say we are looking pretty good. I would also say that in a few week of constant barrages pulverizing their infrastructure and softening them up, by the time we actually begin the ground assault thing should be really exciting. Stay tuned. By the way the only thing that the Arab Hamulot understand if force and an eye for an eye. B'ta'arif Yahabibi V'nichna B'na'arif Inta Arabi. Allah Ma'ana.
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