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Navy orders aid boat to Gaza to retreat
Roni Sofer
Published: 30.12.08, 09:15
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31. If the greek crazies want to have a confrontation
Dan ,   USA   (12.30.08)
with the USA we will oblige.
32. Navy orders aid boat to Gaza to retreat
Standing with Israel ,   UK   (12.30.08)
Please block them and sink their ships if they refused to heed ythe order to turn back. Britain did this to Israel some time ago. It is not a revenge but israel has to stand up for her territorial integrity. Gaza is still a rpt of Israel. Thenemies of Israel will not rest until (if possible) they destroy israel. This is the manipulative tactics of islam for global domination.
33. sink that ship
(12.30.08)
it's in our way...
34. #7
(12.30.08)
it's also against INTERNATIONAL LAW for hamas to fire 8,000 missiles in three years into a un member sovreign nation like israel, killing its citizens, harming its economy, demoralizing its children and parents and creating a situation where 300,000 civilians have to live on and off in underground bunker shelters for three years. that is against international law! and a just response as you now see was honest, adequate and coming. poor gazans? do you realize that those poor gazans recieved 8 billion dollars in aid from the eu and other countries (nothing from their arab friends, though) in the past 2 years? WHERE IS RHE MONEY? WHAT HAVE THEY DONE WITH IT? IS THERE A CHANGE IN LIVING CONDITIONS ON THE GROUND IN GAZA BECAUSE OF THIS AID? WHERE DID THIS AID GO??? i'll tell you where: to abas, to hamas leaders! nothing was given to the palestinians. money went to buy rockets from syria, russia and iran, not food. they cut the pvc pipes in gaza from the sewer infrastructure that israel built for them before israel left gaza in 2005. they use these pvc's to make them into kasams. when we get them across the border into israel, we see the hebrew writing on them. not a single infrastructure, hispital, clinic, school, apartments, etc... were built using this money. not a single one! however, the hamasnics built villas in gaza and abroad, take vacations by private jets, drive mercedeces, buy expensive italian suits and shoes, hide in damascus in safety, while they use the gazans to entice and subjugate them to a culture of hatred and misery and poverty, to anger them and make them rage against israel while these hamas rulers sit in private villas and know that their constituents are the war fodder, the suicide bombers, the suicide missioner that will do the dirty work for them. you are so naive! take your head out of your butt my friend. if anrwa and all the billions didn;t exist for these palestinian miserable lot, they may have started working hard to build an economy, infrastructure, educational systems, hospitals with lots of medicine and good doctors and worked the land and produced as proud people. israel is not in their way. israel is interested in them having a good economy, a peace, a chance at normal life. it is hamas that is using them, abusing them and opressing them in the name of their single goal in life...the destruction of israel. so, what did this hate give them? did it make life better? did the hate and violence give them a country? did this hate and suicide attacks endear them to the rest of the world. you are right. we need to pity them. they are pawns in a game of war, a needless war, a hopeless war against a country that only wants to exist in peace with its neighbors. but, they never let us!!!! no matter how many times israel extended a hand for peace, they have always come up with a reason to refuse it. enough is enough. let's look at the reality on the ground and stop blaming israel for the situation of the palestinians. they are indeed to be pitied, but not because of israel. because they have always been used by arab regimes and terrorist organizations ruling over them and making their lives hell.
35. Why did not you sink it?
Bill ,   USA   (12.30.08)
36. fish israel no 7.
lola ,   erewhon OZ   (12.30.08)
They are so dumb that they do not even realise that it is MARITIME LAW. They make it up as they go along. Israel broke no laws, it has declared a closed miltary zone, and notified all ports and shipping - the Free Gaza nerds knew this mentioned it on their website. They would have been further cautioned by the Larnaca harbor master. the Israeli ship requested then to turn back and could legitimately have arrested them and impounded the boat or even at a stretch sunk it - but instead they escorted them back into non-restricted waters. Incidentally where did the warships come from that they have mentioned on so many press releases and articles? Israel doesnt own any.
37. "they cannot claim it's the Israeli border when it's not."
Global Citizen ,   Israel & USA   (12.30.08)
As compensation, Jerry Springer would be happy to change your diaper.
38. Just a boat??
Pat ,   Australia   (12.30.08)
As a true outsider to this conflict I see the frustration of the Isreali people as their govt and IDF represent their concerns. This boat is just a token of the misguided aid provided by the 'others' to the needs and wants of the PAL population. I am said that I am part of the silent majority who are only vocal at a time of conflict and not of peace. May your god be with you!
39. Evil minds
Roy ,   UK   (12.30.08)
I read so many evil bigited comments from "some not all" Jews that I have little hope for the state of Israel. The foundations of a great nation can not be built on poison anger and bloodlust. I want Israel to prosper and wish Israel no harm. However trust me when I say killing thousands, starving millions in response to the murder of a few is an over-reaction. (I am sure there will be some nasty comments back to support my case). PS I fought the IRA and I dont hate Catholics.
40. No More Mr.Nice Guy ,Time For Some
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (12.30.08)
Hardball.Eactivist Boats are like Kassam rockets.They have to be nipped in the bud.Let these sentimental "bleeding hearts" find another more deserving cause.They should thank their lucky stars that Israel Navy are benevolent otherwise they would be at the bottom of the sea long ago...Bastards...
41. Lies from the IDF as usual
Chanalau, Tova ,   London, UK   (12.30.08)
.. but they will find it difficult to maintain their story with a CNN journalist on board. Maybe there was a Bedouin on board one of the Israeli ships that they can blame.
42. This boat is a Hamas boat fronting as NGO
Lee Kaplan ,   Bekeley, USA   (12.30.08)
IF you go to the Freegaza.org website there is an invitation letter from Bassam Naim a high level Hamas official inviting these boats in. THe boats have Iranian "news crews" on them (Iranian agents). The boats are part of the Hamas and Fatah movements, not independent. The internationals on board, all known anti-Semites are there to create an international incident for Israel should they be stopped but they msut be stopped. IF Huwaida Arraf and Neta Golan or Paul LARudee are on baord they must be arrested, brought back to Israel and prosecuted for repeat violations of Israeli law. Visit www.StoptheISM.com and DAFKA.org to learn more about them.
43. To #18 Greek freak
Joo ,   Eurabia   (12.30.08)
What do u mean by Greek waters? The urine from your pissed pants against Turks that occupied your brother's land in Cyprus? You are useless parasites of EU. Shut up and prepare to be a part of UAE soon.
44. #17, still waiting for the name of the IDF spokesman
Danny   (12.30.08)
I have an open bar waiting for him!
45. #18 You Cannot Even Cope With
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (12.30.08)
Rioting greeks in Athens and you are talking about sinking ships?Thank you,I needed a good laugh today...
46. #39 Over-reaction? Debatable
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (12.30.08)
To thousands of rockets? But I will give you the benefit of the doubt.Nobody in their right mind here wishes for bloodshed but rocket fire must stop.I believe Hamas must be hit harder still ,day and night until they give up their hateful agenda and learn to let their neighbours live in peace.When Hamas has has enough of a beating then maybe some progress can be made and not before.
47. #39 Israel Used Tiny Fraction Of Its
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (12.30.08)
Power.This is why it is a bit misleading when media accuse Israel of "Disproportionate force". Israel has more Tanks than all of Nato for example,and a huge arsenal of all sorts of very nasty weapons.The harder Israel hits Gaza now the sooner all the fighting will end and normal life can resume.One day I fear Israel will be forced to really use some of its power,you've seen nothing yet.If Hamas was capable,they would not hesitate to indiscriminately kill thousands of Israelis including civilians so please bear that in mind.
48. Observer your stupid. Learn the law
Alfredo ,   Brasil   (12.30.08)
Observer your Moron. A country can do a exclusion zone, in owers or international waters. Britain did in international waters in Malvinas war (200 miles raium from island), in second war in North Sea, OTAN in Balcans Sea, India during war with Pakistan, and many others. This is in the chart UN for the right of the sea. Israel could opean a advise fire and after open fire in the hull.
49. let them sleep with the fishes
JL ,   israel   (12.30.08)
50. SS Pancake runs gets broadsided.
Gideon Reader   (12.30.08)
The ISM's ship the "Rachel Corrie" will be the next ship sent to Gaza. Hair style victim, the bugeyed and fat bootyed, anti semite former U.S.Congressnut Cynthia McKinney, who claims to have been run out of office by the JOOOOS, is going to be the navigator on another "rescue the Peace lovin' Palestinoonians from the JOOOOOS." So far she plans to suggest a launch from a major landlocked major metropolitan area of the U.S. a feat not equal to her feet. I am sure that the pancake delivery will go foward.
51. Communists are no different then the terrorists
Lednah ,   Europe   (12.30.08)
52. PR seekers
m ,   Ashkelon, Israel   (12.30.08)
These are not warm, caring people. These are publicity seekers who have come to get their faces in the newspapers and as a second thought added some boxes of "aid". They knew in advance that they would not be allowed to get through to Gaza and they are purposely provoking the Israelis in order to make them look bad. Sorry, but I don't care where they end up - they just need to go!
53. navy orders aid boat
debbie ,   israel   (12.30.08)
TO #21 FISH LOL, your post is so funny. I love it too. All the international law experts popping up whenever Israel is mentioned. Also marine and naval law. Love it, love it, love it.
54. One question
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.30.08)
If the boat didn't have enough fuel to return to Cyprus, how was it going to return if we had let it through? They expected the 'poor starving Palestinians' to give up their fuel? Me thinks I hear excuses and lies
55. navy orders aid boat
boat ,   israel   (12.30.08)
TO # 34 Excellent post. And so informative. Please post more often.
56. truth is in the middle
zionist forever   (12.30.08)
The truth is probably in the middle of both stories. I don't believe the whole of the IDF story but I don't believe the whole of the ISM story because they go there in an attempt to make trouble and hope to get stopped because it makes good anti Israel propoganda. If it was an accident the Israeli navy shouldn't have waited for the accident they should have sank the ship to begin with then let them go to Gaza where they can stay with their arab friends until the military action is over.
57. Free Gaza
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (12.30.08)
Yes, free Gaza from the rule of the terrorist organization called Hamas and it's backers Iran and Syria. The ship and all aboard should have been sunk. Like rocketry, just another Hamas weapon to be destroyed.
58. Doctors
Elianah ,   Ramat HaSharon, IL   (12.30.08)
They want to bring in as many doctors as they can? Oh, so that's why Cynthia McKinnon is on that boat, along with CNN and AlJazeera. Indeed, doctors all!
59. #48, ever heard of jus cogens law?
observer   (01.01.09)
Latin meaning "compelling law." This "higher law" must be followed by all countries. For example, genocide or slave trade may be considered to go against jus cogens, due to peremptory norms. So, what's genocide if it is not stanglulating siege in the air, water and ground acess of Gaza; starving and bombing 1.5 million residents? The 1986 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties affirmed jus cogens as an accepted doctrine in international law. States have used the concept of jus cogens in their efforts to achieve reforms in the existing law and international legal order. In international criminal law, jus cogens refers to the legal duties that arise in connection with high profile crimes, including the duty to prosecute or extradite, the non-applicability of statutes of limitations, the non-applicability of any immunities up to and including Heads of State, the non-applicability of the defense of "obedience to superior orders", and universal jurisdiction over perpetrators of such crimes. Sharon has jailed himself in coma before subjecting himself to the jus cogens law!
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