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Gaza: Hamas gunmen hide in hospitals
Roni Sofer
Published: 31.12.08, 12:48
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1. Tough talking 'Shahids' in fancy dress
Talula ,   Israel   (12.31.08)
seems they are not so willing to die for the cause anymore. They'd rather dress up and play doctors and nurses to avoid being killed.....instead of dying like a hero. Do the Palestinians know this? Aren't they horrified that the tuff talking men are hiding underground and are dressing up as doctors to avoid being killed for their cause? Oh dear. It seems to have all gone pair shaped for them.
2. Hit the Hamas wherever they hide
Marcel ,   Florida   (12.31.08)
It is A WAR CRIME for Hamas to do this AND IT IS NOT ISRAEL'S FAULT OR RESPONSIBILITY. Israel's responsibility is to protect it's people ,not the supporters of Hamams and their fighters who hide behind their women and children. It is not your responsibility but Hamas' if they hide among civilians. Tell the hypocrite nations to go to hell and defeat the enemy wherever he is hiding ! You will not win a politically correct public relations war if you play by Hamas game rules.
3. The hamas fagots :The SHAMELESS
YITZAK BEN SHLOMO   (12.31.08)
4. Israel must press all the way!
Jehudah Ben-Israel ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (12.31.08)
And all the way means eliminating Hamas's desire to ever, ever continue to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity by using the civilian population of Gaza as human scheilds when firing exclusively at population centers in Israel, aiming to mass murder as many of them as possible or at the very least terrorizing the civilian population of Israel.
5. Their leaders are still alive.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (12.31.08)
They still have large stocks of missiles, the underground bunkers have not been destroyed, & at best, we have only killed a few hundred terrorists out of an estimated 15,000. This ''analysis'' seems to be politically motivated & not based on a serious assessment.
6. lol whose this hero that
R Hitchings ,   Methil   (12.31.08)
accuses Hamas of War crimes...lol Just when I thought it was the preserve of the IDF .. Have a Guid New Year oot there in the Zio Entity.
7. So, now are you going to start bombing hospitals?
jack ,   richmond, va   (12.31.08)
I mean even if they weren't using the hospitals, they certainly have injured combatants and police officers in the hospitals. Of course, I have seen quite a few IDF soldiers in hospitals and schools in Israel. IDF officers go to schools for recruitment purposes. The Israeli Universities are used for military and occupation research. Hospitals and medical facilities have armed guards. Does that justify Palestinians targeting hospitals and schools in Israel? Just curious.
8. hamas gunmen hide in hospitals
debbie ,   USA and israel   (12.31.08)
TO MR. HITCHINGS: No. 1: This country has a name, just as every country does. It is Israel. It is not called zio entity. No. 2: Check your facts please. Militarily defending one's country and people against non-stop rocket fire into urban centers is not a war crime. Placing yourself among civilians (men women and children) in hospitals, schools, and mosques, definitely is a war crime. 3) Do you write a similar talkback every time civililians are hit by American fire in Afghanistan or Iraq? Did you write similar talkbacks during the past eight years, while the people in the south of Israel, were being hit daily by rockets falling into their homes, schools and shopping areas? Were you even aware of it? Likewise, were you aware that Israel uprooted it's settlements and pulled everyone out of Gaza several years ago? Did you know that Gaza once belonged to Egypt, and never to the "palestinians"? Egypt wants no part of Hamas or the Gazan people, and refuses to open its border to them even now. I saw no such message from you when one of the Gazan rockets backfired recently, killing two palestinian sisters. Do you know any of the facts about how Hamas is treating Fatah (their brethren) brothers whom they have imprisoned in Gaza? 4) Last by not least, it is not the New Year here in the "zio entity". Our new year is in September. Boy have you got your facts mixed up!
9. cowards
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (12.31.08)
nothing more to say. they are simply cowards.
10. Jack in the 'burbs No. 7: No.
Rob ,   Toronto, Canada   (12.31.08)
No, but I hope they continue the blockade absolutely until the Gaza residents wise up and cough up the terrorists living amongst them. They didn't before; I suspect, because Gazans relied on Israeli handouts, and could get by no matter what. The handouts must end.
11. No. 7 What is 'Occupation Research'?
Saul ,   Barcelona   (12.31.08)
Is that a job training program? Hey, in case you miss the last eighty-odd years, Palestinian Arabs DO target schools and hospitals. Perhaps your question re:justification is better addressed to Hamas, although I am pretty certain what their answer would be.
12. they never cease to surprise
Ilana   (12.31.08)
me at how utterly low humans are capable of stooping!! To fire rockets into towns and cities of civilians, rockets filled with explosives and metal balls for added injury FROM their hospitals???!!! Have mercy on their own injured at least!! Heaven do something!!
13. to #7
gadi   (12.31.08)
Palestinians DO target hospitals for years, fortunately they have not succeed yet. For example it happened in 2005: ".. a 21-year-old Palestinian woman arrested carrying explosives at a Gaza checkpoint planned to blow herself up in an Israeli hospital..." http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4113538.stm
14.  7. So, now are you going to start bombing hospitals?
DAVID ,   HERZLIA,ISRAEL   (12.31.08)
To Jack: yes, Hamas has always targeted only civilians, never any army bases !!!, only buses targeted by Hamas terrorists ,as well as bus stations, restaurants, coffee houses, hospitals, and by the way !!!1/2 hour ago these Hamas heroes sent a grad missile which hit a school in Beersheba. Yes, Jack , Hamas deliberatly targets only civilian targets !!!, NEVER ARMY BASES !!!, real heroes right.???? IDF does not have bases in schools, synagogues,or hospitals Jack, Happy New Year to you !!!,
15. #7
(12.31.08)
EVERY Israeli citizen has mandatory IDF duty...yes, they are teachers, students, doctors and sometimes they get hurt and are patients or visiting other patients. Idiot: they're not shooting from schools and hospitals and they sure as hell aren't cowering there and daring the palestinians to shoot through the whole childrens' ward to get them so they can rack up more sympathy from the Int'l press! (although, if you look at another article on Ynet now, you'll see there are 10,000 Iranians alone (forget the rest of the world o' Islam) who are willing to suicide bomb innocent civilians anywhere and do just that -- of course, THAT the BBC and its ilk wouldn't cover.
16. You don't know Jack, Jack
Sha-yid ,   Chicago, USA   (12.31.08)
There is a big difference Jack between the type of "use" you refer to in Israel and the out right war crimes commited by Hamas. Armed guards at a hospital is not the same as staching weapons and rockets there. Recruiting at a school is not the same as setting up a military command center at those locations. Housing injured combatants at a hospital and using ambulances to transport injured people is not the same as commandeering ambulances away from the injured to transport combatants dressed as doctors. When Israel can be proven to use these tactics then it is ok to target those locations. But they don't. hamas does, hizbollah does and the UN sits there and allows them to do it. Let the bombs fly. hamas scum needs to be eradicated so that two ancinet people can live together in prosperity.
17. #7 Look who's playing with words!
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (12.31.08)
...an Islamo-Anarchist propaganda agent claiming to hail from the US. At least be more original with the alias. "I mean even if they weren't using the hospitals, " - well, BUT THEY DO USE HOSPITALS AS HUMAN SHIELDS! Your hypotetical question is not a fact - it's a pathetic trial to hide the fact that THEY DO USE HOSPITALS and MOSQUES as cover. And I never heard of any kind of "occupation research" being done in Israeli universities. What exactly do you call "occupation research" Jack? Something similar to the political Islamic and Terror/Suicide indoctrination and rocket building that takes place in EVERY "school abd university" in GAZA? Do you mean the "Hatred Industry" maintained by Hamas in "Suicide Bombers Summer Camps" for 5year-olds (documented by the BBC and narrated by Hamas instructors)? Do you refer to the Al-Qaed- inspired experiments with Nervous Gas done in the Islamic University in Gaza? And to the point: no, we won't be "bombing hospitals" - despite the fact that Hamas terrorists (whom no doubt you support) have been bombing and terrorizing our hospitals, schools, kindergardens and generally civilians. We will certainly bomb them however if they start shooting from them. That makes them legitimate targets and Hamas criminals of war, according to ANY international convention you may want to throw at us - except of course your own distorted view. And if Hamas terrorists wouldn't try to send suicide bombers into our hospitals, schools, malls and shops, we wouldn't need to hire armed guards. Having armed guards does not make any spot a military target. Last time I visited several US malls and hospitals, (about 2 weeks ago) they had armed guards too. Are you suggesting that all the US malls and hospitals are valid military installations? Your vicious logic is both stupid and self-incriminating - better look for a more stupid autience over at Haaretz forums "Jack".
18. If so, do land operation into hospital vicinity!
Tayfun_Turkey ,   Istanbul   (12.31.08)
That is just pretext to air bomb hospitals, children are killed by Israeli air bombing mothers are injured in hospital, if now you bomb hospitals mothers will meet their children in eden. You are child killers and whichever state try to survive killing children is doomed to its dreadful fate.
19. My advise to the IDF
General W.T. SHERMAN ,   USA   (12.31.08)
is the same advise I gave in reference to the American Civil War, as follows: 1.Every attempt to make war easy and safe will result in humiliation and disaster. 2.My aim ,then, [is] to crush the [enemy], to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom. 3. I would make this war as severe as possible, and show no symptoms of tiring till the [enemy]begs for mercy. 4.War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want. 5. War is not a popularity contest.
20. shame on the enlightened left
barry   (12.31.08)
who let this happen. they support or even promote israel's departure from the territories & this is what they goy. hopefully they learned that you cannot trade land for peace with the arabs. it just will not work. i hope that the left will use their heads this time to concentrate on hamanity & real peace not a peace that sees israel relinquishing land & showing weakness.
21. Yo Tayfun!
Yehuda ,   Israel   (12.31.08)
Are you speaking from the experiance of your countrys slaughter of the Armenians are what you are doing now to the Kurds? I am sooo interested in hearing of the moral bedrock that you base your accusations.
22. #7 You forgot to add kindergardens...
Mary ,   UK   (12.31.08)
23. Maybe the Arabs won't be so eager for war
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (12.31.08)
They start a war and then whine about the results. FYI the ground operation is coming and you ain't going to enjoy it either.
24. It's a Tough Choice
emanon ,   USA   (12.31.08)
If the hospital workers really had a conscience, they would leave their hospitals. In staying, they are supporting hamas and prolonging the fight. The terrorists have no regard for human life. Why would you hide in a hospital and risk endangering the people trying to save your lives if you cared for human life? Since the terrorists all want to die anyway, the hospital workers that really care about humanity should leave. According to what the terrorists have been claiming, there are no medical supplies anyway. The terrorists spent all their money on weapons and none on quality of life things for their people. let the terrorists suffer the consequences of their actions.
25. Mosques Are Targets Too
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville USA   (12.31.08)
If Hamas operatives are operating out of or storing rockets in mosques they must also be targeted. Islam is a doctrine that can justify violence in a thousand ways and if their so-called houses of worship are weapon storage facilities they are fair game.
26. R Hitchings
Kev ,   London   (12.31.08)
R Hitchings: Proving that even the brutal Romans had cause to wall you Scottish in. You just aren't civilised.
27. Hamas leadership strategy
Dr D ,   Jerusalem   (12.31.08)
It is not important where they are hiding but it will be interesting to see how the rats will abandon the ship and how fast they can run with all the stolen cash. Politicians in the Arab world pushing for few days of "calm" are most probably hopping to help Hamas treasures out and of course they will want a cut in the cash. Iranian money stain with lot of innocent blood...and waisted again in favor of two or three fat rats. The bright vision of the Shiites for the future of their followers.
28. Bomb the mosques and hospitals then
Danny   (12.31.08)
29. #7, Yes
Danny   (12.31.08)
30. #26, he is one of the many wind up merchants
Danny   (12.31.08)
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