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Gaza hospital director: Israel lying
Daniel Edelson
Published: 31.12.08, 22:52
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1. AND THE ARAB DOCTOR SAID
..............DACON9   (12.31.08)
However, the hospital director admitted that he has no way to monitor those who enter or exit the hospital. HE SAID THAT JUST IN CASE HE GETS CAUGHT WITH A FEW ARABS INI HIS CLOSET WITH ARTILLERY
2. Doctror Death
Conker ,   Israel   (12.31.08)
whatcha gonna do, whatcha gonna do when shin bet come for you.
3. of course hams is using hospitals as bases
david ,   new york   (12.31.08)
the israelis just blew up a mosque that was used by hamas for storing and launching rockets (nice secondary explosions). when israel calls up hamas terrorists to tell them that they will bomb a certain building (yes, israel actually does that), hamas tries to round up people off the street to put into the building. clearly, morality is not a major impediment for hamas. it would take an idiot to think hamas is not operating out of hospitals
4. Hey doc, you didn't complain when hamas stormed ur hospital
usa   (01.01.09)
and started throwing fatah supporters off the roof. Hamas has a history of operating from ur hospital before and they'll do it again as long as they think they can get away with it. Unfortunately, that puts YOU AND YOUR STAFF in harms way and makes your workplace a prime target for IAF strikes.
5. With Hamas gunmen in your hospital
daniel   (01.01.09)
would you tell the truth?
6. with Allah's kind permission
Yaroslav ,   Ukraine   (01.01.09)
There is no doubt about that! If they use mosques as a storage site for missiles and explosive materials (surely with Allah's kind permission and help!), so what supposed to be the problem in using hospitals (with the same Allah's kind permission and help!) as hideouts.
7. hamas harming ordinary gazans
alexi   (01.01.09)
Hamas is hurting your hospitals. Go out and hurt hamas. Harm them. Haniyeh is hiding like a coward while you brave gazans show courage. He takes your bread. Only israel feeds you. Gazans go out and hurt hamas.
8. Pals have loooong history of hiding behind RED CROSS
Alan ,   SA   (01.01.09)
They move rockets and terros in Ambulances . They run and hide in Hospital beds PLENTY have been arrested in other hospitals in the past times . Hospital Director ,go bluff the UK Anti Jews and GUARDIAN . Dont bluff us here on Israel Media
9. Don't believe everything Shin Beth is feeding you
Ben Alofs ,   Bangor   (01.01.09)
I am a physician and I have worked in both Shifa Hospital and Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza City. The hospitals will treat any patient irrespective of political or religious affiliation. No guns are allowed in the hospitals. I find Dishkin's allegations ludicrous. Of course he has no proof. But then, people love to believe him. It fits in so conveniently with the the imagined reality of Gaza as a place full or 'tewwowists'. It is all in the eye of the beholder. No need to bother to check it out for yourself. Still, a bit strange that Israel is keeping journalists out of Gaza. If these allegations would be true, then why not have them checked out by these foreign journalists? Wouldn't that be wonderful PR for Israel? Why then is Israel keeping journalists from entering the Strip? They do these things in Zimbabwe and North Korea.
10. No way
Natan ,   USA   (01.01.09)
Hamas hiding and operating out of hospitals???? I know that they used ambulances to transport weapons, used pregnant women to transport suicide belts, strapped explosives on a 16 year old disabled teenager, blew up buses with women children and elderly. But hospitals??what makes you think that they are capable of doing something like that. And if you believe that they will never use hospitals then i have this GREAT piece of swamp land for a good price for you.
11. Hmm, no Hamas in here
William ,   Israel   (01.01.09)
Though we all saw on TV how non-Hamas supporters were treated - attacked, arrested, thrown off rooftops. Doctors from this very hospital with Fatah affiliation were given 10 minutes to collect his stuff and go. The doctor said all he wanted to do was heal people, apparently Hamas had other plans. The proof is in black and white. Problem is Arabs think we (like they) have a short-term memory and forget their past transgressions.
12. You too, Brutus liar Ben Alofs?
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (01.01.09)
Hamas entered Gaza hospitals three days ago and murdered several "collaborators" hospitalized in them. They did this most likely to settle scores between clans, and used this timing as a good opportunity. It was reported everywhere in the press. This contradicts this hospital Manager statement. In addition in the Arb societies everyone knows who is whom and to who they belong, doctors included For you to lie like this is earth shattering. Your claim to be a dr. is a lie too. The inordinate amount of time you spend to post on different internet sites and the number of posts you make for the past several years does not leave a real doctor time to practice medicine.
13. hamas
mike ,   Toronto, Canada   (01.01.09)
Hamas are not real warriors. They hide under the skirts of their mothers and daughters until they have a chance to run out and fire a few rockets. But they will drown in their own blood, shortly.
14. Madness?
Persian TARSIER ,   Taharoon   (01.01.09)
Somebody's talking about madness? Who?
15. Don't believe anything #9 is feeding you
rar ,   usa   (01.01.09)
Don't believe anything #9 is feeding you!
16. It's the truth (for dhimmis)
Mark Katzman ,   San Francisco, USA   (01.01.09)
Anybody in their right minds believe the palis? Look at haniye's face-then ask yourself if you believe the palis--uh uh charlie, I don't think so. The iranian student paper was closed down because it claimed that the palis hid among populated areas (including hospitals). This is a big test for Israel's future: end hamas, Israel might survive; don't, and guaranteed, it's only a matter of time.
17. How To Tell When Hamas Is Lying?
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville, USA   (01.01.09)
Their lips are moving! Even the Arabs don't believe a word they say.
18. Threre aren't any Hamasniks there, I guarantee it
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (01.01.09)
My husband's boyfriend used to work in this hospital in Gaza. There is no way there are ANY freedom fighters hiding there. Absolute nonsense.
19. #9, Israel isn't keeping journalists out
Danny   (01.01.09)
They are being forced to sign that Israel is in no way responsible for their safety and has no legal liability - which seems perfectly reasonable given they have zero control over Gaza. Apparently this causes problems with some insurance for "international reporters" most of whom are freelancers. As for the idea that in somehow Israel controls the flow of news from Gaza the same way the DPRK or Zimbabwe does, I guess you don't get newspapers, internet or TV in Bangor.... If you do, here is a quick test. During the period of time that the Oslo process started until now, approximately 2-3 million people have starved to death in the DPRK - how many pictures have you seen in the news of that? How many pictures have you seen from Gaza in the last 4 days? Which number is greater and by how much? Are you that intellectually dishonest that you lie to yourself in order to believe in some way Israel is "controlling information flow" like the DPRK? Finally, there were plenty of international "journalists" in Lebanon in 2006, didn't stop them parrotting Hizbollah propaganda. I guess when someone waves an AK47 in your face, any integrity you might have goes out the window.... ( thats being generous and assuming they had any in the first place )
20. #9, when were you in Shifra?
Danny   (01.01.09)
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-03/22/content_316929.htm You can see the gun, fourth photo down, immediately over the crying guys shoulder.( To be fair this took some searching ) but to think that Hamas is "not allowed" to bring weapons into hospitals - for instance when high level members are visiting - is laughable.
21. #12, you have obviously never been to a uk hospital
Danny   (01.01.09)
UK doctors have plenty of free time.
22. #9 - Ben Alfos "I'm a Physician" - No you're not
William ,   Israel   (01.01.09)
You're a Leftist activists who spends most time writing letters to papers like this one. I see you most often in Haaretz. I doubt very highly with the language you use and the accusations you lay - very indicative of a person who is NOT a medical professional. Regarding your concern of journalists (which I believe you ARE) - it's a closed military zone and we're tired of idiots like you running in front of a bomb then claim being targeted. No need to check it out yourself, we've seen it already in 8 years, especially with Reuters. That'll be all Doctor.
23. #18 Yaacov - Haaretz not active enough for you?
William ,   Israel   (01.01.09)
Your husband's boyfriend? Not my concern but I concerning both your Pro-Palestinian leanings over the years, even to the point of denying the very words and actions of Pals themselves pretty much discredit you here...and on Haaretz...and anywhere. There are apparently so many dying in Gaza yet your relative has time for a friendly chat. I can't get that kind of connection with my Dr friends in Boston even on slow nights. No, I will tend to believe what Pals and their journalists have already reported in the past.
24. Dammit Danny #20 - Now China Daily will be banned
William ,   Israel   (01.01.09)
You know very well that any journalist reporting ill news of Pals and terror orgs will be denied entry to their journalists. Remember the RAI journalist who publicly apologized for exposing the lynching of two unarmed reservists in 2000? Soon enough, the only people reporting from Gaza are the sleeziest - Haniyeh himself, and the BBC.
25. Danny, waste of time with the Aloof guy
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (01.01.09)
This Antisemite knows too well all the facts.He just chooses to ignore them. No amount of proof will his change the mind someone like this. A noose is the only salvation for such types
26. #23, he seems to be one of the many windup merchants
Danny   (01.01.09)
27. #22, I have seen no evidence he is not a doctor
Danny   (01.01.09)
and plenty that does.
28. #22 and #25, actually i think he is better than most
Danny   (01.01.09)
1) He puts his money where his mouth. I have far, far higher regard for someone who actually does something and something constructive as opposed to people just mouthing off or making some sort of post-adolescent gesture. 2) Whilst he clearly views everything through his political viewpoint - I assume he would accuse me of the same - if presented with absolutely undeniable evidence, he seems willing to change his mind. This is different from the norm for his ilk who will find some way to deny the obvious. 3) Finally, he actually seems to know a bit about the middle east, not enough to realise that Pappe is basically comic relief and a parody of a historian but at least the general outlines. All of which makes him worth at least arguing with... #22, His full name is Bernardus Antonius Maria Alofs, GMC number 4427928. He can have silly views without being a liar.
29. Danny it is nice that you want to be nice
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (01.01.09)
but where is your proof that this aloof is in any way reasonable and willing to change his mind when faced with irrefutable evidence, I've seen none of it in multiple postings If there is a veiled irony in your words it must have escaped me, please enlighten me
30. #18 That's FUNNY!
Speedball ,   Toledo Ohio USA   (01.01.09)
Let make sure I understand you correctly. It sounds like you're saying your husband has a gay boyfriend. His boyfriend survived being homosexual in a Gaza hospital because Hamas would surely have murdered him if they were in the hospital as an occupying force. Correct? .....THIS IS PROOF TO THE WORLD.....that the Fruedian slip is alive and well. Godspeed to the IDF.
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