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IDF officer, soldier killed in Gaza
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 08.01.09, 22:50
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31. to all
YedLita ,   USA   (01.08.09)
Israelis are saddened by any loss of life. Arab or jew. Israelis would love nothing more then just to be left alone and live in peace. Sadly, Hamas, hezbollah and Iran need war to promote themselves. the do not care about humal lives Jew or Arab. In the long run killinh a few thousands now will prevent killing a few millions later. Keep Hitting Gaza Hard!!!
33. 11# No, he isn't the one who was filmed by Hamas.
Arik   (01.08.09)
In the Hamas video, it shows how the stupid Hamas sniper misses the soldier.
34. to 16
Hans ,   Germany   (01.08.09)
You sound moderate. Why do you vote Hamas? If you go with them, you are cought with them and you will sooner or later be hung with them. Distance yourself from terror. There must be lots of moderate poeple out there in Gaza who want peace. Why don't they speek up?
35. i guess so ....
Laila ,   U.S.A   (01.08.09)
yes one soldier but 782 palestinians are dead and half of them are women and children do you think this is fair ????
36. hmm
Ana   (01.08.09)
What a stupid replay ! How can somebody defent himself in someone elses state ? Don't start with Hamas:"They started first"- even you know it's not true" During a ceasefire Israelis killed 240 Palestinians.
37. hmm
Ana   (01.08.09)
I'm asking you:" Do you belive in God ?" Ehere in the world can be moderate Arab, Jew, Christian... ? Nowere. Even if we meet someone who says he is, then he is all except for the beliver ! Ask your self that question...
38. To the Egyptian
Avi ,   Los Angeles, USA   (01.08.09)
Listen here mr. Egyptian, if you knew anything about the history of the world you would know that us Jews, are always hated by most of the world regardless of the situation. We are the blessed people who brought ethics to mankind via God's instructions. We can rest assured that the ethics passed down to us by our forefathers have no comparison to those of the Arab world. Thanks for your concern.
39. To 10
(01.09.09)
You are the last who can speak about cowardly
40. #8
greg ,   san diego   (01.08.09)
Guilt? For desire to live? Just 2 questions.
41. Omer Rabinovitz, 23, was killed
observer   (01.08.09)
the third soldier in 24 hr.
42. I want peace
Moderate Jordanian ,   Jordan   (01.08.09)
Guys we really need, peace, stop the killing on both sides!! I think that Israeli should go back to wherever they came from. Leave palestine to the palestinians. and I highly doubt that Hamas will follow Isralis to their original countries.
43. #42--MODERATE SCUM
avi ,   los angeles, usa   (01.09.09)
Wow, what a coincidence. You guys happened to build your most holy mosque on the same exact property as our Temple (by the way, it was built a bit before yours). I guess this logic is a little too advanced for a Jordanian/Egyptian/ uhhh/ syrian//uh, who really knows where you people came from. jambalaya.
44. To Arab and all confused about Israeli lack of sympathy
Korem ,   New York, USA   (01.09.09)
The majority of the casualties are not civilian, and this is a multiple-week-long urban operation in the most densely populated area in the world. Compare this to Syria's scorched earth Hama massacre of 25000 in one day, Lebanon's indiscriminate bombing of Palestinian refugee camps which killed hundreds of innocents in a few days, or other military actions by Arab countries condemning Israel in which, also to fight terrorists, they have killed far more civilians and shown much less restraint than Israel. Compare to real genocide in the Sudan or the Congo in which 100,000s have been killed, or Russia's operation in Georgia in which a thousand civilians are "missing." Hamas sends groups of women all with a raised white flag to IDF soldiers, then one woman runs out of the crowd frantically with a bomb to try to kill soldiers. Is it any wonder then why civilians get killed? Hamas uses women and even children as combatants, or hijacks their property to attack Israel... That is why so many civilians are dying. Israel tries hard to avoid civilian casualties but when you're a scared soldier who is being attacked from sniper fire, Hamas-set booby traps in occupied civilian structures, people disguised as civilians but actually bombers, all in every direction, with Hamas firing from schools and storing weapons in mosques, unfortunately many civilians die. Israel has nothing to gain by randomly killing civilians, if it did, it could just bomb the whole place without ground incursion (as this article itself shows ground incursion makes IDF soldiers more vulnerable- and Israel has an air force enough to carpet bomb Gaza). But because of the tactics Hamas uses, confiscating the food supplies and treating Gaza like its military playground, this crisis is what is happening. So let me explain the lack of sympathy. Hamas uses these tactics of provoking Israel to kill civilians to gain world sympathy. It is an old tactic used from ancient times until now. When Israel sees that its critics just IGNORE everything written above and just watch BBC and blame solely Israel for the civilian death and say all Israelis should die or to boycott Jews in Europe, when protestors chant slogans "send the Jews to the ovens!" while holding pcitures of dead Gazan children, how can Israelis feel sympathy for those children, when they are being used to attack the right of every Jew in this world to live? When the reality of why these children are killed is much more complex? If the world chooses not to treat Israelis as human don't be surprised when Israelis stop caring what the world has to say.
45. 16. do Israelis have human feelings?
Jim ,   US   (01.09.09)
Arab # 16: Do you see Israelis celebrating and dancing in the streets and passing out candies, as your Arabs do and did for 9/11 and many many other occasions of murder. The blame lies solely with the people of Gaza, Syria & Iran.
46. #42 - moderate maybe but maybe confused?
redbourn ,   tel aviv   (01.09.09)
"I think that Israeli should go back to wherever they came from". Which is where? "Leave Palestine to the Palestinians". No one thought of being Palestinian until well after the '67 war when people who were previously in Jordan and Gaza began to ask, "who are we?". And it must be noted that Arabs from Gaza and Jordan are not one race and don't even like each other. "And I highly doubt that Hamas will follow Israelis to their original countries". Since huge numbers of Israelis were born in Israel as well as Jews for thousands of years it's not clear what you mean. But I'm glad that you want peace because so do we. Mike
47. to Arab and all other anti-Israel talkbackers
Tamir ,   Los Angeles   (01.09.09)
To the moderate arab, I appreciate your commentary because it seems you come from a standpoint of rationality and not one of pure hate which it seems that most of your fellow people on here do. As to your question on why Israel did not just swiftly take out HAMAS there is a simple answer. As you have seen in this war and in Lebanon, the terrorist regimes of Hamas and Hezbollah like to hide themselves behind civilian populations. The densely populated area of Gaza City where most of the Hamas terrorists reside is a quagmire for any army to try and get to. No matter what Israel would do they would have to suffer the burden of civilian casualties because of the cowardness of Hamas. I do not blame Hamas for doing what they are doing because its the only way they can win the war. Tactically Israel would destroy Hamas in a few hours if they met in an open battlefield. Sadly Hamas chooses to use its own people as casualties in its efforts to stop Israel from rooting them out through its PR campaign. To the "moderate" Jordanian let me ask you something? do you know anything about history? jews did not originally come from Poland or germany or czech republic. They came from the land they are now rightfully inhabiting. For over 3,000 years there has been a continuos jewish presence in the land of Israel, this is undisputable evidence. Jews have been expelled from this land by many different civilizations, much like the ones they are facing now, which wanted their death and destruction. Even when jews for the most part lived outside of Israel they were killed en masse (see holocaust). The only place a jew can really be at home is in Israel. This is the only country we have while arabs have thousands and thousands of square miles of land. Oh and by the way, even if jews didnt live in Israel, arabs would still want us all dead. Arent we all infidels anyways? Lastly, to all of you who ask how is it possible that jews and Israelis have no heart and no emotion seeing innocent civilians killed, let me tell you that we all care very much about the innocent lives being lost, on both sides. We weep for the dead and criticise our own people when they do wrong. Yet what we really see is the parades and joyfullness that we see in the streets of arab cities when non-arabs are slaughtered. Do you remember what happened after september 11th? there were parties in the streets of Gaza that day. Where was your sympathy then? I too would love peace as much as anyone else but realistically Hamas does not understand peace without the strength of sword. The only time we had peace with our arab neighbors is after we handed them a resounding defeat. Do you all know why we have "peace" with egypt and Jordan? thats because we beat them badly during the 67' and 73' wars after they attacked us. So to all of you Israel haters out there crying for the innocent palestinians, I do not pity you. I am glad and proud that I have a military that stands up for its people and that I finally have a country that will not allow the Jewish people to be led to the oven for slaughter like sheep. We will never let atrocities of the past happen again, you can be sure of that!
48. Why does Aljazeera know about IDF deaths?
Watcher   (01.09.09)
Over the past 2 days, Aljazeera declared the exact number of IDF deaths/injuries about 12 hours before the IDF does so. They say according to "Aljazeera Special Sources", so-and-so has been killed/injured today. Are their moles who are leaking this information to Aljazeera from the IDF?
49. TO #42. I can't believe you kindness
Simha ,   Toronto, CANADA   (01.09.09)
ISRAEL WILL NEVER SEND BACK THE JEWS AND THEIR DESCENDANTS THAT WERE EXPELLED FROM YOUR ARAB COUNTRIES.. WILL YOU TAKE CARE OF YOU BROTHERS AND SISTERS SITTING IN YOUR REFUGEE CAMPS FOR OVER 2 generations? OVER 60 years? COME ON BUDDY YOU CAN DO IT....IT IS JUST ABOUT TIME ! ON CLOSING LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT THERE ARE NO JEWS SITTING IN REFUGEE CAMPS.. THINK ABOUT... AND LET ME KNOW HAT YOU THINK..
50. #16
jewish girl ,   israel   (01.09.09)
HAVE YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES OF DEAD ISRAEL'S FOR THE LAST 5 YRS ??? DO ARABS NOT THINK THAT JEW'S ARE PEOPLE. GET REAL............. WE ARE TIRED OF BE KILLED BY YOUR PEOPLE. BOTTOM LINE ---------WE VALUE LIFE THAT IS WHY WE DO NOT SEND BOOMERS TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.
51. to moderate Arabs
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (01.09.09)
You are being manipulated. Egypt is a dictatorship where most people starve. To keep their power they make Israel out to be evil. I won't give a history, lesson but let's look at the past two years. Egypt could have opened Rafiah but did not, making sure the people suffered and that they needed Hamas. Egypt let Hamas have enough weapons to attack Israel civilians in the last two years until Barak and Livni have no choice but to fight Hamas. So what happens? >Israel must attack Hamas, or have its citizens dead with rockets. >Israel is so much more powerful that Hamas fights from populated areas so Arab civilians die >you fall into the trap and hate Israel if you feel you must read an Israeli newspaper and write to Israeli people, then please tell me: Why did Egypt not open Rafiah so that the people of Gaza would not suffer? Why did Egypt let Iran give Hamas weapons, and now cry about Iranian influence in Gaza? Why did Egypt let Iran give Hamas weapons, knowing that at the end Israel would be forced into a war where Arab children are killed?
52. IDF Soldiers
Palestinian perspect ,   jordan   (01.09.09)
In my point of view, IDF lost its credebility! I am serious!! you lsot two consecutive wars
53. to #43
Moderate Jordanian ,   Jordan   (01.09.09)
Man lets not get into hestorical conflicts. We are brininging ourselves unneccesary conflicts. What's there is there, this mosque has been there for over 1500 years. You can't just claim it as yours. plus before you built your temple. Arab Canaanites lived there before King David and Abraham. Man the red Indians cant just go like, let's kick americans out! Americans will resist
54. why?
Moderate Jordanian ,   Jordan   (01.09.09)
Ma I dont think there's a problem if some jews lived in palestine, and it happened before, Jew used to live under the ottoman empire and so on. But what must not happen, is for Jews to create a country over an existing country. I understand that you've had a tough history, but that doesnt mean that you do the same to others. Because others do consider what has been happening for the past 60 years Holocausts as well. please answer with objectivity and be fair. May be you can convinve me
55. to #43
moderate jordanian ,   jordan   (01.09.09)
Sorry my friend, I only accept rational discussions based on facts. so no reply from me
56. #17 WORLD OPINION
JEWISH GIRL ,   ISRAEL   (01.09.09)
WE DO NOT CARE ABOUT WORLD OPINION. EUROPE IS FULL OF ARABS AND EUROPEAN'S ARE SCARED OF THEM. YOU HAVE BEEN SAYING YOU WANT TO DRIVE US TO THE SEA, FINISH WHAT HILTER STARTED. WHERE WAS WORLD OPINION ?? OK FOR YOU TO KILL US AND WE JUST SIT BACK AND TAKE IN THE ASS!! NEVER AGAIN
57. Moderate Jordanian
Tamir ,   Los Angeles   (01.09.09)
if you are really interested in having a discussion answer the points I made in my post #47.
58. #54 Moderate Jordanian
Tamir ,   Los Angeles   (01.09.09)
btw to answer your post about israel being created over another country, that is laughable. Israel was established as part of a UN mandate of 1948 after every conceivable arab state attacked the tiny jewish population living there. Also its ironic that you speak of countries being created on top of other countries since Jordan was also a british mandate before you guys "created" your own country. Most modern countries today are created on the backs of other countries. The important thing to discuss is if there was presence of that people in that country before it was created. Like I said before the jewish people have lived in Israel hundreds of year BEFORE even the concept of Islam was every created.
59. our precious young boys sacrificed on the altar of leftis'm
(01.09.09)
our precious young boys sacrificed on the altar of leftis'm this criminaly insane traitorous self hating leftist pathetic cowardly government,is sacrificing our precious young boys on the altar of leftis'm.why oh why did they send our children into this hell hole called gaza,instead of pulverizing and carpet bombing these terorist swines, olmert livni barak,these criminaly insane traitorous pathetic cowards care more about the lives of our enemies than of our own precious young boys i weep for you israel
60. to #47
Eli ,   Tel Aviv   (01.09.09)
You are only adding to the tentions. Tamir, not all arabs are Muslims, and not all Muslims are radicals. In any case, stop thinking that arabs can solve the crisis. They are uneducated unresourced and desperate. They are being pawned by rich established empires. Our enemies are beyond arabs. As long as we beleive that they are the real enemy we are fooling ourselfs. No my dear, the Europe, Us, Russia and their power struggle is what motivates all this. When will we bomb Iranian/French oil tankers finally? Come on, screw the economy, let's bomb who attacked us in the first place if they don't come up with a solution to rocket smuggling! "Oh and by the way, even if jews didnt live in Israel, arabs would still want us all dead. Arent we all infidels anyways?"
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