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Media war on 'Nazi' Israel
Roee Nahmias
Published: 11.01.09, 09:22
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1. "Nazi" slur tries to "kill two birds with one stone"
Daniel ,   Los Angeles, USA   (01.11.09)
First, it insults holocaust survivors. Second, it gives something for the "useful idiots” of radical Islam to sink their teeth into.
2. Examples of this narrative can be seen in the cartoons below
WTF?!!   (01.11.09)
. . . um . . . .
3. arab media,eh?
Ivan ,   Haifa   (01.11.09)
Not only arab media, survivors of the holocaust like Amira Hass also support that idea. Vilnai announced it, "palestinian will suffer something stronger than the holocaust"
4. Arab media not original
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (01.11.09)
The descriptions of Israel were originally used by Jewish Israeli Pofessors such as Yishayahu Leibowitz and "facism expert" Zimmerman. These terms were later used by the Leftist political parties in their attacks on Menahem Begin. Roee Nahmias shouldn't condemn the Arab press for doing the same as Israeli Jews..
5. #1 "Insult Holocaust Survivors??
Alan ,   AZ   (01.11.09)
I guess we need to be more fair and balanced in reporting the news. So , durring WWII , news reports should have mentioned the indiscrminate killing of Jews children by the Germans but at the same time mentioned how much the Germans have suffered from what the Jews did to their economy .FAIR AND BALANCED
6. media coverage
Hadar ,   UK   (01.11.09)
It's not just the arab press which is using terminology related to the holocaust. In Britain too the newspapers - particularly left wing ones like the Guardian and Independent - are using it, as well as the BBC and other TV stations. In Europe it has a double use: as well as shocking the readers/viewers, it seems to provide them with some sort of justification for their lack of action to save the Jews in WW2.
7. Same in Britain
Ex Brit ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.11.09)
This same narrative is being used in Britain in the press and the talkbacks there are also a prime example.
8. nazi, nazi, which is the real nazi
Mark Katzman ,   San Francisco, USA   (01.11.09)
Look who's calling who a nazi--shall we talk about ole nazi haj amin and his stay in Berlin with herr hitler? He had some great plans for getting rid of all of the Jews; in fact, he was bugging hermann to bomb Tel Aviv even as nazi germany was going under.
9. How dare the arabs show dead babies
Ahmed   (01.11.09)
as if somehow their phosphorous dissolved corpses were somehow related to the israeli bombs that fell on them. spokesman mark regev confirmed that the dead babies were actually terrorists because they might potentially preach hate if we allow their little limbs to grow. regev also commented on a group of suicde bombers using babies as human shields. because its a well known fact that men who come out with rocks to fight tank fire are known for their cowardice. also, UN and IRC are antisemites and raicst for publishing reports saying that hezbollah never uses human shields and never fire from civilian areas. all the worlds aid agencies are cover ups for a global campaign to hate israelis. also, youtube is a secret propaganda organisation because when you type human shields in the search all you can find is video footage of israeli soldiers dragging children (i mean terrorists) in front of them while the brave mighty corageous peace loving, non human shield wielding idf conducts its operations of genocide, i mean fighting terror. why wont these dumb palestinians understand that they should be democratic. who cares if abbas is no longer president, as long as you work for israel in this part of this world you can be president 30 years after your terms expires. ask mubarak.
10. If this is what Iran is doing from Gaza, imagine what it can
l.s.b.a.   (01.11.09)
do to Iraq, imagine what the fundamentalists and terrorists who are trained there can do to Europe, to England, eventually to South America, etc. The fHamas are fighting like hypnotized and conditioned pitbulls who know no other way of life. Certainly they will not relinquish the good life of authority, rule, power, four wives, acclaims, etc - for the softer rule of democracy as exists in other Arab States. They destroyed Lebanon. No wonder Assad prefers Iran to USA. When this is over, only China will remain ...
11. Opinion?
Dave ,   USA   (01.11.09)
First off this article is mis-labeled as opinion, it merely states the facts of what is being perpetrated and offers no solutions or commentary. My former Arabic professor deeply offended me when she compared Israel's actions in Gaza to what Hitler did to the Jews. I wrote her a harsh rebuttal, but trying to reach one hatemonger at a time is unacceptable. If the Arab media is spewing hatred and anti-Semitism, then it is the duty of the Israeli media and Jews worldwide to expose and refute it. Instead of merely telling Jews on Ynet that it is going on, why don't you expose the story to international media outlets, try to reach a bigger audience? When you don't act to counter the lies being leveled against you, it makes them true. This is why Israel always loses the PR war, this is why everyone hates the Jews. We are articulate when it comes to science and poetry, but when our image and dignity are on the line we roll into a ball and beg for mercy. Stand up for yourselves. You know Israel is morally just, so let the world know. One neighbor at a time is at least a start...
12. walks like a duck, acts like aduck, is a duck
Jim ,   chicago   (01.11.09)
13. nobody should use that naziterms
marti ,   hamburg/germany   (01.11.09)
nobody should use that nazi terminology,bec.WW2 is unique in the worlds history of brutality and inhumanity.there is only one holocaust,and i feel ashamed about.the world and the israeli people are looking only at gaza,so nobody talks about israel politics of settlement,discrimination,house destruction,keeping back water ... in the rest of the occupied palestinian area.so some israel politician can be happy,that some idiots are using nazi terms. dont loose your chance to think about what is your part in this whole crisis,nobody should feel as guilty as the germans,dont do that to Your children!
14. #5 exposed himself as a bigot
Rob ,   NY, USA   (01.11.09)
Notice how you lump all jews together in your statement. As if in WWII Germany it was all the jews that ruined the economy...oh really....how do you back that one up? So I guess the jews were in charge of the german government monetary policy? All the jews were rich? There were no poor jews right? There were no non-jews that did equal or greater damage to the German economy? You're such an ass that it's simply pathetic. I guess since you're from Arizona we should say that all Arizonians are ignorant aholes just because YOU are. Cause ALL people from Arizona are alike and think alike and do alike right? You're the textbook case of the unselfaware racist who doesn't have the self-knowledge or intelligence to see his own racism and ignorance. I guess if you have brown hair then all people with brown hair must be ignorant too...according to your logic. Dumbass.
15. to #9, Hamas kills and maims its own
rob ,   ny, usa   (01.11.09)
Interesting how you don't mention how Hamas reportedly shot 75 Palestinians in the legs that they assumed supported Fatah so they couldn't rebel. Interesting also how you don't mention how Hamas has executed DOZENS of Palestinians who it has decided without trial were either working for Fatah or the Israelis. You call these MONSTERS your allies? You throw around terms like 'genocide' without even understanding what it means. If Israel were REALLY trying to commit genocide against palestinians there would be tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands dead. The idf would not be dropping leaflets on towns warning CIVILIANS to leave and to stay away from HAMAS who the idf are fighting. They idf would not make PHONE CALLS to homes of civilians to warn them of impending strikes to let them leave. I don't ever remember hearing HAMAS warning any israeli when it sends a rocket over to kill some innocent civilian. The difference between idf and Hamas is night and day. IDF targets hamas...who are military and avoids Civilian deaths as much as possible. HAMAS INTENTIONALLY targets civilians with their rockets...and even harms its own people intentionally firing from civilian homes. You're such an incredible propaganda hound that it's pathetic. If you could lift your head for one instant from your "hamas playbook" and look at the big picture you'd see who the ones with morals are and the ones without. Notice that at ANY time during this entire military operation all Hamas had to do to stop the fighting was to stop firing missiles. That's it. They could have saved HUNDREDS of their own and civilian lives simply by not firing rockets. But Hamas PREFERS TO KILL ITS OWN over simply calming it's MASSIVE INSECURE EGO. That's what this is really about after all with Hamas. If Hamas were really interested in peace and benefitting the palestinian people they would sign on with recognizing Israel and proceeding with the roadmap so a Palestinian state could be created. Instead, they are so filled with hate they have blinded themselves and are literally shooting themselves in the foot...again. The path to a better life for palestinians is not through rocket fire on israel. It is through peaceful but forceful diplomatic means to create a palestinian state.
16. trivialising the holocaust
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17. Jews do not show pictures of their dead
De   (01.11.09)
and they have just as graphic pictures. During the many suicide bombings of Hamas, of buses, restaurants and young people's hangouts, they could have splashed out gruesome pictures of their dead but tradition forbids it. It is always emotive and hard and very sad. Children and innocents always bear the brunt of any conflict. How we wish it could have been avoided.
18. #13
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (01.11.09)
Sorry Marti you have it wrong. "Occupied palestinian area" is what the Arab Muslims call Israel. In areas ruled by Jews, Arabs of all religions are allowed to live, build houses, work and, if they are citizens, vote. In areas ruled by Arabs Muslims, Jews are exterminated and even their graves are dug out and thrown away. Christians are persecuted. If you want to complain of settlement, discrimination, house destruction and racism, look at where the Arab Muslims rule.
19. Ignore Them
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.11.09)
Why is anyone listening to their hatefilled rhetoric? Just ignore them.
20. MEDIA WAR
david friedman ,   Ashkelon   (01.11.09)
Can anyone explain why every day Hamas seeks to kill innocent civilians with their missiles, which has been going on for 7 years.They are not firing at military installetions but into the heart of Israeli cities.This is called terrorism in its most cynical form.Counter to this the ,the Israeli forces in Gaza are targetting Hamas and not directly targetting civilians whom unfortunately become the victims caught in the crossfire.
21. I thought there was no Holocaust
Limor ,   Pardes Hana   (01.11.09)
Intrestingly enough, at least now they can't deny the Holocaust since they are accusing us of doing the same to them, now they can't deny it anymore, unless of course the double standerd continues
22. There are three arguments, three “reasons”, a new logic ...
Robert Bernier ,   Tel Aviv   (01.11.09)
There are three arguments, three “reasons”, a new logic to “justify” anti-Semitism: 1.denial of the Holocaust, 2. the competition of victimhood, and 3. The demonization of Israel. If you put the three together, you have the portrait of a people, a community, who are guilty of three crimes. Which is the crime of being crooks, moral crooks, inventing or exaggerating their own martyrdom, doing that in order to overshadow others’ martyrdom, and the whole thing in the interest of an illegitimate and deeply guilty state, which is Israel. If you can put it into the brain of some people that Jews are people who exaggerate their martyrdom, who therefore [minimize] the martyrdom of other people, all this with the sole selfish aim of saving Israel, you give to some people some new motives, arguments, reasons for feeding the old hatred. Anti-Semitism nowadays : http://xrl.us/kw6hh
23. #5 jews were not allowed posession
israeli free thinker   (01.11.09)
in nazi germany. before the nazis came to power, there were sanctions on the jews throughout their history in europe, that prevented them from gaining power and money. there were big waves of jewish immigration to america and the jewish homeland such as at the end of the 19th century, becaue of sanctions, and mass murders in europe. let me remind you nazis were doing experiments on people, because of theories about the lower race, i.e. a race not originated in western europe. for these theories about the lower race they killed jews, they didn't need libels to excuse their actions, but yours is the most original libel i heard so far, you must be proud for inventing it. when all other industries collapsed, the war industry was providing the german people with work, so they kept it up till they were forced to stop.
24. Anti-Israel Media
Shalom   (01.11.09)
I subsribe to HonestReporting as well as other propIsrael media websites. They have published an excellent primer to help when dealing with anti-Israel rhetoric. www.honestreporting.com
25. These were the same that rejoiced at the 9/11 deaths
De   (01.11.09)
I cannot show sympathy for Hamas, I do for for the innocent children and civilians, but Hamas is not without blood on their hands there. I can still remember when the twin towers went down, they in Gaza and in East Jerusalem were rejoicing and celebrating the deaths of 3000 people. They now want us to cry for them. They have reaped what they have sown. They forfeit the right and the cost is great.
26. Azah
David ,   USA   (01.11.09)
"For Azah's three crimes, no, four, I will not reverse it, because they exiled a whole population and handed them over to Edom; I will send fire to the wall of Azah. and it will consume its palaces. I will cut off the inhabitant from Asdod, and him who holds the scepter fronm Ashkelon. I will turn my hand against Ekron, and the rest of the P'lishtim will perish." says HaShem!
27. History has it that Palestinians supported and joined Nazis.
Jack ,   San Diego, USA   (01.11.09)
28. We should have an alternative pro-Israeli Arabic media!
B.P. ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.11.09)
So that Arab speaking people can have an alternative information source so that they can see the Israeli side, and not just the usual propaganda.
29. #18
marti ,   hamburg/germany   (01.11.09)
Hi,thank you for correct my wrong term,what i meant is maybe called westbank!? the area marked by the green line,who should be sometimes apalestinian state.first i will tell you,that i like israel since i was a boy!ionly try to understand how things are working.try to get information at diff.places,like ynet,btselem.org ,wikipedia,haaretz... thats all,peace for you all
30. answer to 5
jew   (01.11.09)
imagine that the jews in germany in the 30's would have over years blown themselves up in shopping centers and public transport, sent thousands of rockets into berlin, , denied the existence of germany, kidnapped germans, burnt german flags in the streets,...and then the germans in order to try to stop it would have made an army operation which killed 800 jews most of them jewish militants..now are we getting more fair and balanced for your mind?
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