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Settler kills Palestinian stone-thrower
Efrat Weiss
Published: 13.01.09, 22:09
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1. so?
Sheina   (01.13.09)
Good, all I can say thats the logical consequences of the stone thrower, what was the car driver supposed to do, not defend himself ? he reported it and got on with his life, what else was he meant to do?
2. oh this is too much
eric ,   dublin   (01.13.09)
"IDF officials estimate that the Israeli man fired in the air after he felt threatened by the stone-throwers" this has to be a joke, right? well it sure made me laugh. he fired into the air because he felt threatened? try "in a use of diproportionate force that seems to be prevalent in israel in the last 2 weeks, the man, deciding to respond to the stonethrowers, took aim and shot one of them in the head." que: talkbackers with their "stones are deadly weapons" nonsense comments.
3. Don't throw stones at cars.
Citizen ,   World   (01.13.09)
4. this is what I call Terror
ezzeldin ,   chicago   (01.13.09)
What do you call this, Israel is killing everything that moves in Gaza claiming that they are all terrorist, but what do you call settlers armed to kill with no reason.. If I through a stone, why do you need to justify it with guns and killings... if peace is needed, then you need to start with your own people, disarm settlers, move to the 67 borders, leave gaza and stop your aggrition. If you want Hamas to recognize israel, then Israel need to announce their final Goal in this region. Is Palestine the end of the road for you? or control over most of the arab nations is the goal, be honest and admit your idioligy. We are not sleeping, we know what you need, and you will never reach it this way. most of the world are now awake and know exactly your need, the existance of the zionest nation only valid to keep the arab leage weak, this will change soon. Wake up and smil the coffee, we are not sleeping anymore.....
5. #4
will ,   LA   (01.13.09)
apparently we were awake for a while and you just "woke up" from sleeping< but in all honesty do you realy think israel wants to take contorl of a billion arabs? all israel wants is to live in its tiny area without the arabs constantly being a threat to their existence, so your waking up and drinking the haterade wasnt the best thing to save gazan lives
6. Good! He should be shot dead.....
Andy ,   ramat hasharon   (01.13.09)
then maybe his friends won't attack Israeli vehicles. I don't have the slightest bit of sympathy for the dead criminal. I am more concerned with Israelis getting injured and killed on Israeli roads. And to No. 4 - I can only hope that a disproportionate rock hits you in the head some day. You think we want to ""control most of the arab nations," you brainless moron. Tell me is most of the arab world this dumb?
7. about time to stop bastards throwing stones
eg   (01.13.09)
it is about time to stop all the bastards throwing stones stones kill & maime
8. After Gaza, take care of West Bank..
RR ,   Miami   (01.13.09)
I've visited Israel and the arabs in these areas endanger everyone. They throw rocks at cars, try to lynch people..pulling them from cars, blow up dogs and donkeys by packing them with explosives and setting them off when it goes near a bus or car. These people will never be at peace. Their proposed 'democratic state' would not welcome any non-muslim.
9. Disproportion
Gary ,   Los Angeles   (01.13.09)
Israelis are being accused of suffering too few casualties in their confrontation with the Hamas terrorists. Those who reason thus usually speak the words "disproportion" or "asymmetry" in an indignant tone. While at this writing close to a thousand Arab Palestinians have died or been wounded as a result of the bombings, the Israeli losses amount to just over a dozen. Tel Aviv's critics -- from whom an anti-Semitic stench often rises -- do not say whether Israel should increase its quota of cadavers or if it must reduce the Arabs' quota to achieve the reasonable proportion of blood that will soothe the peculiar itch for parity that afflicts them. Nor do they specify the morally permissible number of casualties to end the rain of rockets that for years has been constantly falling on the heads of Israeli civilians. This demand for "proportionality" can only be called surprising. Until this conflict began, history books everywhere always expressed great satisfaction and a certain chauvinistic pride when a nation's army inflicted on the enemy a large number of casualties, vis-à-vis a trifling price paid by "our boys." Israel is the only country expected to behave differently and, in fact, it does; I know of no other nation that announces where and when it will drop its bombs, thus enabling civilians to evacuate the territory. Of course, in this it behaves asymmetrically, because the Hamas terrorists, forever eager to cause the greatest damage possible, never announce when or where they will launch their rockets against Israel's civilian population. In turn, Israel has not the slightest interest in causing casualties. All it wants is to stop Hamas' attacks the only way it can: by eliminating the terrorists and destroying their arsenals. There's no other way to deal with them. Hamas is not a political organization with which agreements can be reached, but a fanatical gang intent on wiping Israel off the map. To achieve this objective, its members are even willing to turn their own children into human bombs, just to kill the hated Jews. Here's another very important asymmetry. The Jews build underground shelters in all houses near the border; they close the schools and hide the children at the least sign of danger; they treat the death of a single soldier as a national tragedy; they do everything possible to rescue their prisoners, and protect the civilian population from the consequences of war. In contrast, the authorities in Gaza, drunk with violence, fire their machine guns irresponsibly into the air to express joy or grief (causing numerous injuries), do not hesitate to install their headquarters or hide their guns in schools, mosques or hospitals, use human shields to protect themselves, turn to suicidal terrorists and reward the families of such "martyrs" with money. One week before Hamas broke the truce and stepped up its rocket attacks against the Jewish state (the spark that set off this conflict), I was in Israel, where I had been invited to deliver a lecture at the University of Tel Aviv. As part of the contacts organized by my hosts, I visited the Wolfson Medical Center to learn about the program "Save a Child's Heart." I was very moved. It is a foundation devoted to providing heart surgery for very poor children, most of them from the Arab world. As it happened, I witnessed the hurried arrival of a tiny 5-day-old girl, who had to be operated on at once to keep her from dying. She was brought in by her mother, a woman in a black head covering that allowed me to see only her tear-filled eyes, and her husband, a small, bearded man who watched with amazement the indescribable kindness with which a group of doctors and nurses treated the baby. The family came from Gaza. Since the war erupted, I have asked myself constantly what became of them all.
10. Immediately to accuse!
Anne K ,   PT   (01.13.09)
How does Ynet know straight away it was a "settler" who killed the Palestinian? Perhaps it was another Palestinian? And if it was the settler who did it - the Palestinian shouldn't have been throwing stones at cars. That is a potentially lethal act. Do the army and police chase the stone throwers as assiduously as they chase the settlers?
11. stone-throwers
A.Cohen ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (01.13.09)
stone throwers are muderers also-shoot them, before they kill us
12. Taliban Jews in action
Libyan Guy ,   Italy   (01.13.09)
they live on occupied land that was stolen from arabs, so they are legal targets. i wonder if he did not shot in air what would have happend ? actually i wonder if the opposit happend ? all arabs will be terrorists whule poor settlers were just defending them selves ? get out of occupied land you merders
13. The 15 years old kid with the stone is the terrorist...
John ,   US   (01.13.09)
But the man with a gun and kills the boy is just defending himself... how ironic? How do you expect to live in peace while you are killing kids and women?
14. If this happened in Los Angeles, this kid would be
usa   (01.13.09)
shot dead too. Californians never put up with any road rage crap, and neither should Israelis.
15. Thank you Eric in Dublin for volunteering!
JPS ,   Efrat   (01.13.09)
Good on you, Eric. Please come to your local television station where a fellow volunteer will pitch a 5 kg rock at your head. You will demonstrate on camera that no harm will come to you, and then the war crimes trial will start against the Israeli. Or, we'll visit you in the intensive care ward and figure out which of your organs will be donated once they pull the plug. But if you do survive, then you'll win a free all expense paid trip to Israel, where you'll get a 5-star trip to several cemeteries to visit the graves of rock throwing incidents. It's idiots like you who also think that kassam missiles are "inaccurate and not that lethal", right? As a bonus, you get to visit 28 graves and we'll toss in face-to-face confrontations with some amputees. The bottom line is that just like in Ireland, you can blame each side till you're blue in the face. But if you want to make peace, you have to put the rocks down and stop shooting missiles. The Pals ain't there yet, so neither are we.
16. Good shot old chap! end
The Alef ,   Israel   (01.13.09)
17. What would you do?
Jeff ,   Samaria, Israel   (01.13.09)
Mr. Eric from Dublin, What would you do when your car comes under a hail of stones while traveling with your family? What? Stones are not deadly weapons? Really now? Just today 2 adulterers were stoned to death in Iran, did you know that? Oh, that's fine, since is Muslim's killing Muslims. Right? but a Jew is never allowed to defend himself or family. He should lay down and die, or suffer the wrath of the whole world. So you're in Dublin? Why not visit Samaria? Or Sderot? See with your own eyes the Hail of Rockets and stones? Otherwise shut your bloody drunken Irish Trap! Mr. Ezzeldin, Settlers armed to kill for no reason? Isn't getting stoned to death reason enough? Israel is killing everything that moves in Gaza? Really? Where do you get your info from? Al Jazeera? Israel could wipe out Gaza in a minute, but only performs surgical strikes AFTER informing the civillians about it. Did the US do so in Iraq? or Afghanistan? Oh, so now only Americans have the right to defend themselves on fareign soil, while Israel shouldn't retaliate after being bombed by 3000 Rockets per year... No wonder you are such a Hypocrite. After all, You're from Chicago! I bet you're best buddies with Governor Blago, William Ayers, and perhaps even 'The ONE' Obama?....
18. Ignorance & hate breed one another
Seth Greenberg ,   Raanana, Israel   (01.13.09)
Eric (#2), thank you for the cue. I must assume that you have never had a grapefruit-sized stone thrown at your car while traveling in excess of 70kph. I presume that you are also not particularly familiar with the laws of physics. Permit me to clarify. A stone dropped on the windscreen of a moving vehicle impacts at no less than the velocity of the vehicle itself. Get it now? In essence the stone hits the windscreen at the equivalent of 70kph or more, often piercing it and often shattering the glass (which is why Jewish residents living in areas that are heavily populated with Arabs have cars equipped with specially protected glass. Perhaps you are also not familiar with the limestone rocks that are often thrown. I must guess that you are imagining something akin to a golf ball. Imagine something closer to a stone grapefruit smashing through your windscreen at 70kph. There are people I used to know for whom this was the last thing they ever saw. Now imagine a hail of limestone grapefruits smashing into your car at 70kph. I'd be impressed if you did not fear for your life in that situation. Israelis are armed because they need to be armed. It's either armed or dead (I won't ask you which you would prefer). It is not unusual to shoot in the air to scare off your attackers. You give too much credit to drivers who are being pelted with limestone grapefruits, traveling at 70kph or more. We're not all sharpshooters. But we do have a will to live and to keep our children alive. So we protect ourselves. We do not send our 15-year-old boys out to stone people because of their religion. I would have hoped that in Ireland, you would have been beyond condoning such hate-based violence.
19. NOTICE TO ISRAELIS
fertiledirt ,   US   (01.13.09)
From this time forth, in order to travel on Israeli roads, a blatant act of aggression in and of itself, all Israelis must purchase tank like vehicles with cattle plodders before further travel will be allowed. Furthermore, a cache of at least 100 lbs of stones must be kept inside in case of Arabs attacking, tired of this aggressive behavior of driving. Children and adults will be required to wear armor necklaces in order to keep their heads attached, as well as children outfitted with archaic chastity belts to save them from the drive of these innocents Arabs to rape and genitally torture, which they surely deserve because of their Judaism. No firearms will be allowed, for this is more than the down-trodden attackers can bear. You will continue to build and pay for these roads while attempting to use them, however, they may be given away at any time in the hope of peace and the knowledge that it is different when a Jew works for something. The other is always deserving of submission from Israel. Send them water, gas, fuel and food, provide for them medically, and don't you dare dream of ever having this monkey off your back. You have been judged by the world and found undeserving of the same benefits of life as other human beings.
20. This journalism is crap!
GUH   (01.13.09)
((A resident of the West Banks settlement of Emanuel, who apparently feared for his life after his vehicle came under a stoning attack, shot and killed a Palestinian in Samaria Tuesday evening)) Feared for his life? Likely an excuse made AFTER he shot the 15-year-old boy... "the terrorist who was killed was already nabbed in the past for terror activity" Throwing stones is "terrorism?" 15-year-olds are terrorists? Oh WAIT: He's Palestinian. I almost forgot that... all Palestinians above the age of one second are terrorists...
21. #4 You can call it any way you wish...
Arthur ,   SF, CA   (01.13.09)
You play with fire - you get burned. You raise your hand against the Jews - you pay the price. Fair and square... Bull$$$t like - stones are not dangerous, kassams are primitive - keep for your eager listeners. Here's the proposal for all your brothers - why bother with 1967 borders...???? Let's go back to 600CE borders: pack and go back to arabian desert. You are nothing but a trespasser on the Jewish land.
22. Good job
YOEL ,   Ra'nana   (01.13.09)
He did something good to restore deterrence. Our roads will be more peaceful and quiet. Disproportionate answer? Maybe we must specialize in throwing stones, and give back presents to our palestinian cousins. Just kidding
23. #2
Joseph ,   Israel   (01.13.09)
Stones thrown at driving cars are deadly weapons. Recently, a baby was murdered by stone throwers in France. The dead stone-throwing terrorist knew what he was doing: he chose to go to the olive grove and to throw stones at civilian vehicles driving on the road below. If he wanted to live, he could have run away as soon as the Jew stopped his car. But instead, the terrorist and his friends continued attacking th Jew, knowing it is virtually impossible to see anyone hiding in the olive grove at night and even less likely to hit someone with a handgun at that distance. He was not only stupid, but very unlucky.
24. To eric about the stone throwers and..
Miriam ,   T.A Israel   (01.13.09)
Isn't it typical of the Irish to accuse the IDF or any Israeli civilian being threatened.Let us see if ,were you in the same predicament and having experienced it throughout many years due to this thugs how you'd react. We have many armchair generals at all talkbacks,who allways blame the victim rather than the perpetrator. Hey,were you part of IRA/Sinn/Fein and did you put armes up and surrendered. Give me a break,I know your history and association with "her hitler",so don't come here with you hypothesis and innuendoes. Look into your own backyard first,and then come back and preach as to how the man acted inaproppriately.: And please no riposte by denying your involvement,be it with the Nazis,or the IRA.. I'll bet your denial will be forthcoming or the silence will speak VOLUMES. Hypocrisy is your game.Get off your high horse. I am glad the man had the courage to fend for himself before,He,INSTEAD OF THE TERRORIST: would have been bleeding/dead on the ground. This should be a lesson to the thugs,that continuation of these acts will not be tolerated anymore.
25. They will think again before throwing stones
rachel ,   usa   (01.13.09)
26. #2 who cares what you say
rachel ,   usa   (01.13.09)
27. #4 don't you have enough crime in Chicago
rachel ,   usa   (01.13.09)
Lets see what you do when a gang member attacks you .....
28. John, USA #13 I have a proposition for you.
Gee ,   Zikron Yakov   (01.13.09)
I have no idea where in the US you live, but here's the proposition. Go to your local interstate with a large rock. Through it at the first police vehicle you see passing by and report back to us. I am willing to bet the cop you shoot you too.
29. The moronic logic of brainwashed cowards
Ya'akov ,   Florida   (01.13.09)
I am sure that this like all the other so-called “Palestinians” usually throw his rocks to Israelis with the generous intention to simply give them an invigorating muscular massage, since they know that Jews in Israel are tired of working to pay taxes and so support lazy Arabs through governmental handouts. And if the car had stopped he would had given his daughter another loving massage too. In view of that, this ungrateful Israeli driver should be harshly condemned, not for killing the bastard terrorist … I mean, the innocent and well-intentioned Arab civilian, but for his intoleragle ingratitude and phenomenal misunderstanding. Right? In reality he needed pre-emptive pro-suicidal therapy … I mean he needed, ahh, anger management therapy so as to train him bot to shoot in the air and loose lead … I mean … oh well, you know what I mean… Ar any rate, since the damage is already irreversible, the Israeli driver should be tried and condemned to send to the dead mongrel … ah, here I go again … what I mean is the tenderly innocent boy, a letter of apology addressed to his personal cave in Hell where now he just found out that the 72 virgins promised are in reality 72 devils … I mean … well, exactly that. Sow one single seed, and a big tree comes out, and a ton of fruits fall on your head and break it. Imagine what happens when you repeat your seeding action. Be careful what you plant, where you plant it and how many times you do it because, like they say, “so many times goes the vase to the well that one day it breaks.”
30. My 15 year old is doing homework at 8 pm
usa   (01.13.09)
Why was this kid allowed out throwing stones, eh? Because of permissive and neglectful parents, their kid ends up dead 'cause he messed with the wrong Israeli dude.
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