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Gaza: IDF shells UN compound, hospital also hit
Ali Waked
Published: 15.01.09, 12:30
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91. #30 Jeremy UK
Doug ,   Gwent, UK   (01.15.09)
You declare "..What you snatch by blood, you shall loose by blood..." Might I respectfully suggest that it is YOU who are too full of hatred to comprehend the reality, as it is you who even talks of the "doom of the state of Israel" as it defends itself against those who ALSO pursue such an agenda. "...Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it...." - Hamas Charter. As if you would choke on the context, conspicuous by it's absence in your rhetoric is any reference to the 10,000 Palestinian shells, mortars and missiles that have targeted innocent Jewish civilians. Israel withdrew from it's ancient homeland of Gaza in good faith only to see it's Synagogues destroyed and it's towns and villages turned into terrorist training camps from which to launch missiles against Jewish civilians. Hamas snatched power in Gaza by "blood" murdering it's fellow Palestinians in the streets, hospitals and jails. Many were thrown from high rise buildings. Christians living in areas with an Islamic majority were murdered. Where were your protests then. Gaza is "Judenrein", as are all areas under Palestinian control. Perhaps it may be Hamas that is losing by "blood" what it snatched by "blood". Your hatred in my own country, the UK, is not new to me. It is something that I deal with on a daily basis and have done so for 30 years. It is my humble opinion that, through a powerful and unprincipled news media, the public and politicians alike have been sucked into a carefully and craftily contrived morass of deception concerning the storm of events that is brewing in the Middle East. I feel that the populace has been misled to such an extent that the public now generally believe that there is some semblance of moral equivalence between the actions of a terrorist entity – Hamas - devoted to the destruction of a sovereign state and indiscriminately murdering it's civilians, and that of a sovereign state – Israel - which would dares to defend itself against such atrocities after suffering such for over eight years.
92. Gaza is his prime employer!!!
Doron ,   NYC   (01.15.09)
Of course the UN is upset with the situation in Gaza. Gaza is probably the laergest UN employer in the world, and the UN is probably the single largest civillian workforce in Gaza. Imagine the catastrophic unemployment in Gaza if the UN was to pull out. Imagine the situation the UN would be in if people didn't want to work for it in Gaza... By supporting the Hamas and maintaining the dire poverty of the local population the UN guarantees it many thousands of employment positions and untold millions of $$$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
93. Tell us about Hamas Female Suicider in Beersheva Hospital
Alan ,   SA   (01.15.09)
94. Why are there no BOMB SHELTERS in Gaza?
Talula ,   Israel   (01.15.09)
Every Israeli home has one by law. I guess that speaks volumes.
95. #65 Absolutely Akhmed! Video proofS in our website!
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (01.15.09)
In the Netzarim website (www.netzarim.co.il). Just go to our Web Cafe, scroll down the right panel to "2009.01.07 1240" and click on "UN: Hamas War Crimes" Now the fun part. Where is your proof for your arguments? Nada! But your efforts at propaganda are entertaining in their futility. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
96. israel!
pizza ,   italy   (01.15.09)
i'm supporting israel in that war. war is war. hamas played too much with fire and that the ansewer. how people of israel can be relaxed when most of the country doesn't accepted it.? israel want to have a normal life without being worry all the time. onu had to stop hamas before that war.
97. Israel was created by an UN Resolution. Am I wrong?
oscar ,   buenos aires   (01.15.09)
98. unrwa compound hit
tom ,   toronto, canada   (01.15.09)
israel is far too quick to apologize - if the unrwa building was used to fire on israeli troops, they were right to fire back. and it's not even clear who fired phosphorous shells at the building, because the palestinians have fired phosphorous shells into israel, so it's clear that they have such ammunition, and they are quite ready to use it against civilians. but since almost all of unrwa's staff belongs to one or other terrorist organization, why should the world (and ehud barak) believe the opinion of a palestinian "eywitness with a military background", so conveniently provided by hamas?
99. oscar, buenos aires #73
israeli ,   israel   (01.15.09)
No, we won't go to the UN or "the world". They are not to be trusted.
100. It is an Iran sponsored nuclear reactor, covered by the UN
Indigenous ,   statless   (01.15.09)
If you do not believe that ask any international journalist in the strip.
101. #53 I Agree
Jerry ,   NYC, USA   (01.15.09)
America's killing of civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan is also shameful. My point is the fact that your neighbor shot at your house from a school and knocked out a window does not give you the moral right to burn the school down with children inside. This campaign has been deliberately brutal to "send a message" and "make up" for the Lebanon war in 2006. The IDF is not taking adequate precautions to protect civilians. That to me is a war crime.
102. THANK YOU ISRAEL... the world is better
RR ,   Miami   (01.15.09)
off with less terrorists. Also, the U.N. has been proven to be a haven of criminal misconduct and has lost all credibility in the world. Abuses ranging from raping those they are suppose to protect to bribery.
103. If it was a building storing humanitarian
peggy ,   Israel   (01.15.09)
supplys, flour, rice etc. why such an enormous blast and thick black smoke? me thinks was more than food and medicine in that building! guess hamas want an apology for having less to sell on the black market!
104. 31# Give us all a break. You Palestinians , Arabs, and
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.15.09)
Persians are living on everyone elses land and encroaching in countries all over the world. No one is killing your children to get them out of Canada. No one is killing your children to get them out of the United States. No one is killing your children to get them out of Europe. The only people trying to displace people by constant terrorism is the Arab and Persian countries. I don't see Jews teaching their children to run into buildings full of innocent people, to blow themselves up for a cult. Don't justify your actions of terrorism by blaming it on land. If that were the case......I'd be crossing the border to blow you off of my native american land. My land was taken also......And you are sitting on it.
105. #94: Talula! Israel has deprived them !
Zyriab ,   Montréal   (01.15.09)
Talula...Do you live on planet Earth? Like seriously, did Israel leave them the chace to build anything at all ? do they have enough funds like you have in Israel to have the luxury of building a shelter in each home?! Did they ever imagine that Israel will ever bomb them so relentessly ? My God, what kinda answer will suffise to reply to your so-careless question!?! Vraiment, tu joues à la naïve!
106. Zyriab.. you are pathetic
Natan   (01.15.09)
"...I advise you to start packing your luggage...now... " I guess the one that packed and left is...YOU What's the matter, you did not like the food handed to you by the UNRWA??
107. So far the Israelis have lied
Mikesailor ,   Miami, FL   (01.15.09)
Every time the Israelis have bombed UN facilities, hospitals etc. they have claimed that there were Hamas gunmen, mortar teams etc. firing from these buildings. So far, in each case after ascertaining the facts, it has been shown the Israelis lied. Before any further investigation occurs, a fresh atrocity has been committed by Israel. Tell me: Why has Israel refused to allow independent reporters document Israel's actions if they aren't lying? Even Israeli journalists have been banned.
108. Israel is revenging from the UN
(01.15.09)
because of standing against Israel , This is Israel ..... people full of hate
109. #101 I also agree too, but up to a point...
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.15.09)
As a matter of fact, if your neighbor shot you behind a child and held the child as a hostage, you would try to kill him without hurting the terrorist. What can happen is that the kid may also be hurt in the process. And yes, sometimes you do bring down a house to kill entrenched vicious killers - even at the risk of killing some of the captives. Ask ANY policeman. In this case, the terrorist is committing a crime (by shooting at you behind a hostage) just like the Hamas terrorists shooting behind alestinian hostages! And IDF does take adequate precaustions to protect civilians - more than ANY sane army. The trouble is that it is almost impossible to avoid civilian casualties when Hamas uses them as Human Shield (in itself a war crime!).
110. to Zyraib
peggy ,   Israel   (01.15.09)
seems you packed your bags, how is it in Montreal?
111. Jerry...are you watching Barney, or Sesame Street
Steven Wilson ,   Anchorage, Alaska   (01.15.09)
When you report this crap? Hamas wanted a war.....the Persians wanted a war.....the Arabs wanted a war. They follow a cult religion that wants you dead too. The Israeli's have every right to blow the crap out of them if they start a war. There is no middle ground. Shoot them before they shoot you. Go hug your Obama doll. He'll save the world through verbal,(Diarhea), dialogue.
112. #107 Deal w/PROOFS in #95 and give me an excuse
Paqid Yirmeyahu ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (01.15.09)
I am just BEGINNING to have fun. I have countless photos to go with the videos already on our site and I'm finding the blind denial of reality of you and Akhmed (Zhiab) MOST entertaining--and a fabulous excuse to increase the photos and videos that YOU TWO are driving visitors to my website to see these proofs. You're a couple of zany cyber-terrorist propagandists. Keep at it and I'll keep adding photos and videos and more people will keep seeing them and discovering the proofs--that exposes your brazen lies. Of course, you also won't want to deal with the Hamas-launched Grad, deliberately aimed at civilian areas--which is a war crime--gravely injured a 7-year old boy in Beer Sheva within the last couple of hours. There's the truth. Paqid Yirmeyahu Paqid 16, The Netzarim, Ra'anana, Israel Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai) Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority Welcoming Jews & non-Jews www.netzarim.co.il
113. #107 Some answers to your pathetic claims
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.15.09)
1. Here are some proofs (which you may refuse to believe - even your own eyes). And yes, Hamas use Mosques, Hospitals, Schools and private homes to shoot from. Yes, and we hit them EVERY time they do it since these locations automatically become valid military targets according to the Geneva Convention! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCsMI-_v0gk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAR_Iwq9-R0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNLYH1qFWs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmXXUOs27lI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_ydoKV86So&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydo1Nsp8YE0&feature=related 2. How do you know that "Israel has commited atrocities" as we speak? Since no "independent reporters" are located there, you must have better sources like your evident hatred towards Israel. I guess you need no proof - you've judged us already so in return, we'll ignore your rants and move on :) 3. And nobody has to allow ANY "foreign independent journalists" (read documented rabidly anti-Israeli palestinian media collaborators). As for Israeli journalists, they are allowed in. And they show movies and they report. Sorry to disappoint your desire for blood.
114. Zyriab-If Palestinians fight Jews will retaliate
Sam ,   Canada   (01.15.09)
Don't expect that Jews will not react if Palestinians choose to fight. Palestinians, years ago, did every thing they could to keep Jews returning to their biblical homeland when the Jews were in great danger. The Palestinians failed. Now Palestinians are on the outside trying to get in. Jews owe them no favours. All the restrictions on Palestinians and wars with Palestinians are the result of Palestinians trying to eliminate the Jewish state and replace it with a Palestinian state. Some Palestinians may be willing to settle for a state on the West Bank but some is not enough. There is also an issue of Jewish holy places and security. This is why Palestinians will have to NEGOTIATE getting a state and not just DEMAND what they want. and expect to get it. Incidentally, I lived in Jerusalem for seven years including with Palestinians in the university dormitory.
115. #106,110: I packed my bag, coz u stole my land!
Zyriab ,   Montréal   (01.15.09)
It's simple....I am not able to live in my own land , because you stole it ! Didn't you know the answer for that ? & Of course , needless to mention how many other Palestinians are deprived from living in their ancestors' land because someone like you who just disembarked from Warsaw or Budapest & somehow he's convinced that he has the right to live in my Haifa or Jerusalem house ?! But, we'd like to reassure you, that we still can come back with our American passports, or Canadian or French...don't worry ...we're coming back to our stolen land...
116. Oscar, you hit it on the head!
EST ,   Miami, USA   (01.15.09)
,,,by God or demon? Israel by God ... Hamas and their supporters by the demon!!! Just look at how much hatred they raise their children with, how they use innocent civilians to shield their demonic selves and how they sow hatred, murder and destruction wherever they go ... That is why they are so opposed to Israel, the Jewish state, a nation that even though has been battered over the centuries has flourished AND made the desert flourish as well; a nation that in the words of Palestinian leaders "values life" as opposed to Palestinian culture which "values death"
117. #115 Marchaba! But don't whine when when you're kicked...
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.15.09)
...like your coward Hamas dogs. You see, we are not the same Jews who have been kicked out of our ancesteal lands by Romans, then by Crusaders, then by Salah-a-Din invading armies. Now we are here, determined that NEVER AGAIN we will be removed from our land - ESPECIALLY by racist scum who has been raping our land for centuries. If you plan to try to destroy us and rape our land again, you'll have the same fate the Arab armies had, and later the terrorists, Hezbollah, now Hamas and tomorrow Iran. The basic rule is: you come in peace and we embrace you - you come to kill us, we come after you and well, you know what happens.
118. To Oscar once again ...
EST ,   Miami, USA   (01.15.09)
Your true color is showing ... or should I say absence of color ... definitely yep! leached of all color as a human being. If you can advocate for the wiping out of a people you do not belong to the human race, you might belong to something else but not the human race...
119. Arab/Palestinian/Muslim historical revisionism
EST ,   Miami, USA   (01.15.09)
People try to revise history and try to ofuscate the facts. Over 50% of the original Jewish Israeli population is from the MIddle East (original to the land of Israel.) Many Holocaust survivors came from the gates of the European hell but they were not the majority ! The founder and first president of the PLO was born and raised in Cairo. As far as I know, Cairo is and has always been a part of EGYPT!Muslims claim Jerusalem as their holy city...Muhammad never set foot nor referred to Jerusalem. His holy city is in Saudi Arabia ... thus Muslim pilgrimages to Mecca. Jerusalem was built by King David, an Israeli Jewish King and has always been central to Judaism ... As far as Palestinians leaving Israel to neighboring Arab countries when the modern State of Israel was once again recognized by the international community ... they left INSPITE of Israel's requests for them to stay and be a part of a democracy. The 700 to 800, 000 Jews that HAD to leave neigboring Arab countries had no choice! They were bullied, threatened and even killed while their property was stolen by the governments of the countries they were forced to leave. So don't talk about stolen land or property.
120. Jerry #101 Apologize to the Native Americans
EST ,   Miami, USA   (01.15.09)
You live on and profit from stolen Native American lands!!!
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