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Rabbi Eliyahu: I sent Mother Rachel to Gaza
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 21.01.09, 08:27
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31. Anon 22 ,
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
And it's because of the reforms and secular that the Shoa happened for you too ? Poor bipede !
32. Tom 21
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
I have'nt see ANY miracles during the Shoa , the six day war nor now in gaza . Only dark middle age people can believe in it , not sane 21st century ones .
33. And stupid me thought the Virgin Mary had the monopoly !!
Dizzy ,   Madrid, Spain   (01.21.09)
34. 32. oh I'm sorry i forgot. you must be
(01.21.09)
enlightened. idiot
35. Itai , your number ? not a proof at all
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
The low number of casualties is ONLY thanks to the CIVIL protection , to the measures taken to protect life , not because of inexisting "miracles" .
36. 25 , S judah , again a stupid interpretation .
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
You still live in the dark middle ages in your galut . Don't tell me you are there on a mission . I can't believe you and your alikes any more . You rabbi should , with Ovadia retire instead of telling Stuyiot , it's their age probably , they become more and more senile .
37. S judah , Anonyme coward too ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
Go and pray , maybe you become a Mensch instead of a Tswaifiesedige behaime , who knows .
38. You speak this way after the Armenian Genocide?
Akiva ,   Maaleh Adumimi   (01.21.09)
Get your facts straight
39. I feel sorry for the families
Israel   (01.21.09)
of all these bitter losers when they return their atheist bodies to their non creator, by cremation. Their families will be so ashamed, as these people invariably cause consternation to their loved ones. But they constantly prowl these columns like cock roaches with laser equipment hunting down the words Gd, chareidi. rabonim, shabbat candles, miracle , kosher etc. Woe net indeed.
40. 36 and 37 Charles - ranting again
S Judah ,   London   (01.21.09)
I will ask the Rav if he can put in a good word for you as well. Like those Hamas guys despite having been squashed you have a compulsive need to get in the last word to show that you can still wiggle your finger. Yawn !
41. To 39 , i feel sorry for the children of those
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
still living in the dark middle ages and believing that "miracles" helped IDF win . If no IDF , there would NOT be an Israel anymore , inexisting miracles would not have prevented our enemied to murder us .
42. Charles, Rav Mordechai never confirmed that he sent Rachel
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (01.21.09)
Despite the story headline, Rav Mordechai only confirmed that he prayed at the Tomb of Rachel, he never confirmed that he sent Rachel as a ghost. Anyone familiar with Rav Mordechai and his style of talking can tell you that. It is true that many of Rav Mordechai's followers tend to be a little on the loopy side, most of them are not and he himself certainly is not. You should get to know the man, Charles, I think you will find that you will like him.
43. S Judah , you are the same as many others
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.21.09)
babble , tell things without any foundation , and when asked to give some references , NOTHING . In Yiddish i would say : in de luft aran gered . Saying something taken in your fantasy . You can ask your rav to put a good word for you , it's more urgently needed . Not ranting , having fun seeing how backwards some people can be .
44. #9-tayfun in turkey:curious question
Arie ,   BaGolan   (01.22.09)
Have you engaged in any genocide against Armenians or Kurds lately? You're overdue!
45. Belief in miracles?
Arie ,   BaGolan   (01.22.09)
Like religion itself, it is a leap of faith! You either believe or you don't. How do you explain anything regarding religion unless you have an innate belief. Who are we to judge. But if it made even one of our soldiers feel safer or perform better, then praise be their belief!
46. beautiful story. leave it at that.
Asaf Golan ,   Sugar Land   (01.22.09)
Believe anything that does not cost you a thing. Just don't worship images.
47. Mexicans in Chicago see Virgin Mary under a viaduct... same.
shneehere   (01.22.09)
You see what you want sometimes. Remember the pizza slice on eBay (or was it a grilled cheese sandwich) that resembled Jesus? Or the Guatamalans who line up to see the Virgin Mary underneath a Chicago viaduct in the form of melting snow, etc. I guess Chabad-style visions are going mainstream.
48. Thankfully IDF are not atheists
Israel   (01.22.09)
But they fight for us all, we who fight with them, and pray with them, and the others, the atheists. The flippin' atheists benefit from this package deal, but won't be buried with us or our chayalim, so that's a consolation. To be vebrennt is the destination they have chosen.
49. This is witchcraft or judaism?
Mark ,   NY   (01.22.09)
This is basically witchcraft-invoking the the spirits of the dead. judaism has become so corrupt; it's amazing how witchcraft has penetrated so many aspects of judaism and derailed it from the true way of the torah of worshipping the almighty G-d, not the spirits.
50. Besalel , of course that he did'nt "sent" her
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.22.09)
That's not the problem . For me it's unbelievable that people in the 21st century , who are not all stupid , can believe in miracles . I can't , did'nt see any . It's not the first time we discuss , so you know my ideas . Regarding Rav Elyiahu himself , he is probably a very interesting person , whom i could eventually "love" . He at least has a good point to begin with , He is a Zionist .
51. To 48
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.22.09)
Not atheists ? i think that there are many , if not the majority . Don't forget that if we have a country , it's thanks to the 6000 mostly seculars if not anti religious who gave their blood for Israel in 48 . Verbrennt , why not , you prefer "liggen in drerd" , free to you
52. Arie , Bagolan , not all of our soldiers
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.22.09)
I agree , this belief will help some , the believing . You know certainly that in some armies , before going to the battle , they and their arms were blessed , or that in others they had "god with us" engraved on their belts . Also a kind of superstition .
53. believing in miracles= belief in G-d
raizi ,   israel   (01.22.09)
many people saw this at once and they all confirmed it - but the main thing is ------ do you believe that the sun goes up everyday? that too is a miracle!!! and the fact that you breathe is a miracle.!!!! so trying to deny that a miracle happened is just trying to push G-d away. G-d is all powerful and if he chooses to send a messenger and save those soldiers , that is G-ds decision - and that G-d did not choose to send her with a map of all of the booby traps was also G-ds decision. we are all this world together- G-d created it with miracles , sustains it with miracles and sends little surprise miracles like this and then everyone can think that they can decide if they should believe it or not . a miracle means G-d revealing himself in the world. it is a challenge for us to see it as such-- if you know that you exist as a miracle , then it wont be hard to believe.
54. charles petach tikva(antwerpen)
andrew   (01.22.09)
Did you notice how many talk backs are yours? There is evidently something that you are trying to convince yourself about. Unfortunately for you, you will not convince the Jewish people to leave their faith-and therefore you will just have to remain feeling guilty and empty, and will keep trying to convince yourself you are enlightened. You are typical of the Jew pre ww2. Heimishe yiddish and mocking G-d. Unfortunately not enough people shut them up- We must learn from our mistakes this time before it is too late, Adios, kishmech
55. Yeah, someone else did it, so that makes it okay!
Jake ,   Toronto, Canada   (01.22.09)
Arie, BaGolan - subject says it all. Nice to know that you figure widespread murder is okay because someone else did it before. Means you can't complain when the Palestinians attack you either...
56. Charles, people believe in all kinds of fairy tales
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (01.22.09)
Billions of people believe in the fairy tale of Jesus. Millions believe they have seen aliens on Earth. Millions more believe the Israelis took down the twin towers. Still, millions of others believe the Protestants killed JFK. You're surprised that people believe in miracles?!? Everyone can believe in miracles. The only question is how you define miracle.
57. Andrew , your last word says it all about you
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.22.09)
Yes , there are many talk backs from me . And many more are'nt published . You , as many others of your alikes , only distord writings . There are many , if not most , Israelis who share my ideas regarding superstition , tehilim and other prayers . When i see a "half naked" girl kissing a Mezouza , what is it if not superstition ? There are sincere and totally believing people , not only with words , but in their acts . Why should i try to take them away from this ? But i oppose that people tell untrue stories as " most of our soldiers believe " without any serious source . I oppose when people say that it was a miracle that there were not more casualties , or that we won our wars thanks to god . Or that god is loving his people , this make me boil when i think at those six million .
58. Andrew , i forgot : i'm living in Petach Tikva
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.22.09)
Not in any other place . in Petach Tikva where we have a nice modern new fountain , nice benches , british red phone cabins [ with the crown ! ] a nicely rebuild central place , and many road work .
59. Andrew , try 2
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.22.09)
Your last word only show what kind of guy you are . I have'nt to convince myself , and i don't want to try to convince TRUE believers that they are wrong . But superstition is not believing . The Jewish people is mostly not religious as i saw it . A true believer is not this one who "shokelt zich" at the Beth Knesseth , nor this one who follows only the "letter" of the Torah , but also the spirit of it . Yes , i'm mocking some practises and beliefs . If you don't like it , sorry . I'm living in Petach Tikva , ONLY in Petach Tikva . If you want some details as proof , ask , and come to check what i told . There are many more tb's of me , not published .
60. all of you really make me sick.
JEWISH GIRL ,   ISRAEL   (01.22.09)
you want to talk about mircles, the fact that jews are here today on the planet is a mircle. we should have been destoryed yrs ago. you make fun of an old rabbi who went and pray for the jewish people. SHAME ON ALL OF YOU. the fact that we wake up in the morning is a mircle. the birth of a child is a mircle. even death is a mircle. NONE OF US KNOWS G-DS PLAN. YOU SAY IT WAS THE STENGHT OF THE IDF. DO YOU NOT THINK THOSE BOYS HAD FAITH AND FROM THAT FAITH CAME A MIRCLE. DO YOU NOT THINK THAT THE JEWS ALL OVER THE WORLD PRAYED AND IT HELP BRING THAT MIRCLE. YOU WHO LAUGH AND MAKE FUN OF A RABBI SICKEN ME. YOU LAUGH AT THINGS YOU DO NOT EVEN UNDERSTAND. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE STORY OF QUEEN ESTER? THE PEOPLE CREATED THAT MIRCLE NOT HASHEM. THE PEOPLE WHO PRAYED AND PUT THEIR ENGERY TOGETHER. IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS RABBI PRAYED AND A WOMEN APPEAR? YES, CAN YOU PROVE IT DID NOT HAPPEN? NO. BUT YOU MAKE FUN OF THINGS YOUR LITTLE MINDS AND EMPTY HEARTS DO NOT UNDERSTAND. NONE OF YOU HAVE EVER PRAYED AND A MIRCLE HAS HAPPEN. THEN I PITY YOU. BECAUSE IN MY LIFE I HAVE PRAYED AND MY PRAYERS HAVE BEEN ANSWER. EVEN IN MY DARKEST MOMENTS. EVEN WHEN I DID NOT LIKE THE MIRCLE. THE NEXT TIME YOU WAKE UP THANK G-D BECAUSE IT IS A MIRCLE. THE NEXT TIME YOU STAND UP ON YOUR BONEY LITTLE KNEES THANK G-D BECAUSE IT IS A MIRCLE THAT THOSE LITTLE BONY KNEES CAN HOLD UP YOUR WHOLE BODY. EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS A MIRCLE. EVEN SCIENCE IS A MIRCLE. I THANK G-D FOR THE MIRCLE OF THE WEAPONS THAT HE HELP MAN CREATE TO DEFEAT OUR EMEMIES. BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WE ARE IN THIS SAD STATE. NEXT TIME YOU HAVE A BM AND WIPE YOUR TUSH THANK G-D. BECAUSE IT IS A MIRCLE. ALL OF YOU NEED TO BE A LTTLE LESS CYNICAL AND START BELIEVING. ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. EVEN RACHEL APPEARING. TO ALL OF YOU THAT WILL WRITE TO ME AND TELL ME I AM CRAZY OR RELIGIOUS. I AM NEITHER. I AM JUST LUCKY ENOUGHT TO SEE THE BEAUTY OF HASHEM AND LUCKY ENOUGHT TO SEE MIRCLES.
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