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What happened to us?
Gadi Baltiansky
Published: 21.01.09, 11:42
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61. But who kissed sexy Arafat, tell me who
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NY   (01.22.09)
it was me silly This why I cannot have sexy sex any longer, after Arafat kiss everything went downhill
62. this is unholy war
sarah ,   jerusalem   (01.22.09)
livni depened on egypt and pa .and egypt and pa depened on israil and all are evil still now livni depened on pa to make success how a dead man help any one stop it israil . you ay the price when you free the 250 palastinian prisonors and he said all the prisoners will be freed and he said that israil is good let the hags to go to mecca it is the only price you get it from pa. it is weak it is words and people suffered for this stupidity
63. #61 To fake Yaakov Sullivan I haven't have sex with Arafat
Yaakov Sullivan ,   NYC   (01.22.09)
This is not true. BTW this is not the first time that some posters accuse me of this. I say once again I haven't done anything like that. Shame on you. Just because i am a proud gay some people try to have fun of me. Please respect me and I promice to respect you regardless if you are gay or not.
64. # 58
daniel ,   germany   (01.22.09)
" PERSECUTIONS, CONFISCATIONS OF PROPERTY, DISCRIMINATIONS , RACISM OF THE WORST KIND AND FINALLY THE FINAL SOLUTION " sounds like israel today
65. Internal erosion
Jim ,   J'lm   (01.22.09)
When there is moral erosion, we are in danger of caving in. Our violence is expressed inwards, on the roads, in domestic violence, even in a lack of considerate behaviour towards others . . . We were already suffering from this before the war. It will only get worse now.
66. Ms. Gadi
Sam Wainright ,   Fargo, North Dakota   (01.22.09)
Hey there M'am you hav it ass backwards. When in a war - it was about time- you think of winning! To think about how hellish war is while you are in the midst of it is condoning suicide. Yup you heard me right suicide. And you still are in the midst of a war. In the midst of a war you conduct yourself with the vision of winning and knocking the beejesus out bof your enemy. Your talk kills people. You should be considered a traitor. We had people like you when we were VietNam. God your stupidity makes me sick. You bomb the hell out of anything taht is upright when you are being shot at in enemy territory. How sad that you ahve all been Obamamized. So sad and terrible for the world.
67. Terry... Eilat.. Israel?
Rastahh ,   Jerusalem   (01.22.09)
"Self-defense from genocidal maniacs & ideologically disturbed lunatics is not immoral"... I am sorry to say that, according to your moral, the IDF should be eliminated by its victims, i.e. tha Palestinian people.
68. Gadi:addendum to #57
Ben ,   chicago,Il. Usa   (01.22.09)
The papers now contain serious stories about the re-opening of the Hamas smuggling tunnels. All the devastation that Gadi mourns so compassionately has not moved Hamas one nanometer.What is his answer to the imminent rocket fire that will appear in the near future? What fools these absolute,contextless mor(t)als be!
69. To Chanalau and Guh...#8 and #50
Sara ,   Tel-aviv, Israel   (01.22.09)
To late to save you two to..... We wouldnt want you to make aliyah anyway, or anyone like you! Its seems to me that you're the braindead people that cause the hatred towards Israel from the outside!!!!!!!!! Long live Israel !
70. yoohoo, there's a world out there beyond Israel
Deborah ,   San Francisco USA   (01.22.09)
the rest of the world does.
71. What happened to us
Eva ,   Italy   (01.22.09)
I tell you what happenned to us,kids brain dead nails stuck in them by suicide bombings,constant harrassment by the arabs since and before the State was born,Sderoth kids tarumatized,watching the "Street" burn our flag and chant antisemitic slogans, Thats what happened to us!! Gadi if not for IDF I wonder where would you be if you would be at all
72. ynet critria for reporting: loathing Israel .
trumpeldor ,   eurabia   (01.22.09)
73. Idiot! Israel is fighting for its life
Sidney ,   USA   (01.23.09)
It is Hamas which is responsible for the deaths of the children. Their tactics depend on using civilians as shields and then as propaganda tools when they are killed. They can always count on the U.N., Amnesty International, and the Arab streets to support anything that they say or do.
74. Israel
Gary ,   San Jose, CA   (01.23.09)
Israel has largely created this mess for themselves. Since 1967, they have engaged in an illegal, brutal, and inhumane military occupation of Palestinian territory for the express purpose of annexing land they have no legitimate right to. My guess is that the settlers that were removed from Gaza have been resettled in the West Bank. Israel has been very effective in manipulating American media so as to portray themselves as the victims of Palestinian aggression, when it is the Palestinians who have been the victims of Israeli aggression. The violence directed against Israel by Palestinians is the direct result of its aggression toward Palestinians. The current Israeli blockade of Gaza, regardless of what the Israelis say, is an act of war under international law. If you wish to see a more balanced view of the situation, check out Peace, Propaganda and the Promised Land: Media & the Israel-Palestine Conflict (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565).
75. Stop this unbearable whining, Gadi-poor-thing
Avigail ,   Ramat Gan   (01.23.09)
Were YOU not indifferent (and still are) to the plight of the Gush Katif refugees? Were YOU not indifferent (and still are) to the plight of the people of Sderot? Put a bullet in your head, or get a life. And, above all, stop writing BS
76. it sounds that you had a heart ..
Omar ,   Cleveland   (01.23.09)
full of love ,and now you became indifferent .. the massacres in Beirut is a constant reminder to us that you will never be welcomed in this neighborhood . our next generation is more extremist ,your so - called deterrence with civilians casualties will be the fuel to your end . what leaders now sign ,will be thrown in the garbage
77. Last second before zero hour!
H.H.M ,   Israel Jerusalem   (01.23.09)
Last second before zero hour! This question as raised by Gadi Baltiansky was originally put forward as written in his article of 21 inst. - Our request for personal opinion to more than 15 different persons in different positions, social environments forwarded with this request, but has not produced even a single answer yet! - B u t in Yediota Achronot January 23, 2009 attachment Mosaff To Shabbat ( Shabbat edition supplement ) on to be page 25 appeared under E F F E Z ( ZERO ) :- “…GRUDGE IN ZAHAL – IDF...” the wording “…W H A T Dr. Ezzeldeen Abu al-Aish W A N T ‘ S – R E M A I N E D T O H I M T H R E E D A U G H T E R S A N D T W O S O N ‘ S T O G E T H E R W I T H H I S P L E A D I N G P I C T U R E …” without any authors name or reference. One has to accept this heartless / inhuman reaction as a symptomatic reply to the unanswered article “…W h a t h a p p e n e d t o u s ?...” also as justification to the unanswered question – let’s hope I’m wrong! This public reaction / behavior should lit all existing emergency warning lights all over Israel especially in governmental office IDF and a l l public institution of education including Universities including all denominations religious forums. Will this live to us as Israeli’s the right of existence under this circumstances! Or will it cause the return to real human values! Have H a t e / R e v e n g e taken complete command of our daily life’s. Are we still allowed to dream of a peaceful / normal / civil life and how?
78. self analysis
Catherine   (01.24.09)
I think this writer has a good point here if you can kill 400 plus children and not feel bad about it then you are lost.
79. Catherine ,
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.24.09)
You are wrong , we are NOT happy with those killings . Golda Meir said : we can pardon you for killing our children , but not to oblige us to kill yours . And that's the feeling most Israelis have .
80. 77 , HHM
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.24.09)
In the summer of 2007 two Yeshiva students died in the Judean desert , lost their way without water . One reaction was : no important to loose one if you have ten children . It was a reaction from a Jew , a stupid reaction . The same with this you mentioned .
81. Thank you Gadi
Alias ,   laskj   (01.24.09)
The problem in defense is how far you can go without destroying from within what you are trying to defend from without. ~Dwight D. Eisenhower
82. #23 - Nice list, Yishai
William ,   Israel   (09.09.09)
You do better research than B'stelem. :-)
83. #63 - Yaakov, can you prove this claim is untrue?
Swedish Reporter ,   Sweden   (09.09.09)
The accusation has been made, and several times as noted in your post. Therefore, it must have some foundation of truth. The burden of proof is on you to dispel this rumor once and for all, and until you do, we have to accept that the rumors are true and you did the nasty in the pasty with ol' Arafat.
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