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Dutch MP to be prosecuted over anti-Islam comments
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Published: 21.01.09, 15:16
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31. Do and dont
Smith   (01.21.09)
You can not compare muslim to nazi but you can do it with jew and israel. What a crap
32. Dutch PM is right Mo-ham-mad taught Muslims to kill Jews.
Daniel ,   Amsterdam   (01.21.09)
This will be the opportunity to prove that the statement is right if we read the Korano. Sahih Bukhari Hadith Volume 4, Book 52, Number 176
33. This is nuts! What is WRONG with Holland?!!
usa   (01.21.09)
Since when is it a crime to insult someone, or, in this case, a religion/ideology? I saw the film "Fitna," and it may have offended Muslims, but he [Wilders] apparently used real footage of radical clerics inciting Muslims. How come Holland doesn't prosecuted those clerics too? The United States had a case in which former mayor Giuliani tried to ban a painting from an exhibit because it depicted the Virgin Mary with feces on it. Giuliani was over-ruled because of free speech laws. Hey Holland: watch and learn, idiots!
34. islam
menachem ,   switzerland   (01.21.09)
to tell the truth of the islam in europe you can get in front of judge. Ok i am not living in the netherlands, if i do, i will be scared about it and start to look for a new place with freedom of speech. The truths is something the muslims have to learn to accept, even if it is hard for them. but islam can learn is a young religon. shalom and freedom for the netherlands and good luck for wilders.
35. don't expect any justice from such a biased court
world going crazy ,   stop let me off   (01.21.09)
to tell the truth any longer in this world has become a criminal act? what kind of educated fools sit on the bench of the amsterdam appeals court? too bad they were not the ones experiencing rocket attacks from the likes of our gaza neighbors if thats what it takes to make one think intelligently.
36. If using their own words is incitement
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (01.21.09)
Then there are no laws at all. He did not edit their statements, nor did he distort a single word. If that be incitement, what's next? Quoting the Bible a war-crime perhaps?
37. #28 But Mr. Jawad, that is EXACTLY the point here!
usa   (01.21.09)
NO RELIGIONS SHOULD BE ABOVE CRITICISM! But people MUST have the fundamental right to criticize any religion, INCLUDING ISLAM, without fear of being prosecuted or fearing for their lives!
38. infidels beware pt 2
Marcel ,   Florida   (01.21.09)
So therefore Christians of Europe, and indeed Christians everywhere – beware! Be very, very aware. Islam is not just a religion, it is a way of life, a political ideology and a philosophic doctrine all at the same time. There is no separation of church and state. The rule of the people, by the people, for the people is supplanted by the rule of Allah, by the faithful to Allah, for the pleasure of Allah. Liberty, deeply cherished and entrenched in Western democracies, is replaced by submission — unquestioning obedience and adherence to the dictates and precepts of the all-knowing and all-wise Allah. There is no French Revolution in Islam, no David Hume, no Illuminism, no Goethe, no Descartes, no free-thinking. "Knowledge", in the words of the Prophet, "is only one dot, expanded by the ignorant". Absolute devotion reigns supreme. Islam is not a democracy. There is no rationalizing with, no talking “peace” with Islam. There is only submission - or death. This is proscribed by Allah, as you have read, and it is cast into stone. “Peace” is a Western concept, not an Islamic concept. In time you will discover - and you WILL discover it - at your own peril and expense and over the blood of your own that the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim. I just hope for your own sake that it will not be too late. Shalom. Posted by Lui --------- The truth is offensive to the brainwashed. The delusional dreamers live a fantasy that peace is possible with the followes of the moonn god of the false prophet Mohammed. Israel's liberal insanity dictates that Islam is an honorable religion not matter how evil it's murderous religious hate and intolerance are. Their educators brainwash the little Jewish children into believing it has an equal moral foundation as Judiasm instead of the truth that Mohammed was a pervert,liar and false prophet and above all a barbaric murderer. All of Israel's decades of showing honor and respect to her Moslem neighbors has been for naught,a waste of time. Israel is repaid with evil for the great respect shown to the cult of death. No matter how often you call evil good does not make it so. This delusion of Islam being acceptable feed's the brainwashed Israeli public that there can be true and lasting peace with the followers of the devil,allah whom they serve.
39. Islam should be on trial, not Wilders.
Terry ,   Eilat, Israel   (01.21.09)
And there is certainly enough evidence to convict.
40. Now prove to me he doesn't hate Jews as well
Dave ,   Washington DC   (01.21.09)
It is the same mentality when you are fascist, you are a hater, just these days to be Islam phobic is the only thing allowed, but if you question the holocaust he will be prosecuted right away.
41. He is always Welcome Here
David ,   LA-usa   (01.21.09)
The film (Fitna) is simply a documentary featuring the hate speeches of real Jihadists who promote death and violence everywhere. It is not fiction, libel or slander. This is a dark day for the Dutch Govt , free-speech and their cowardly appeasement of Jihadist front-groups..It is an insult to Theo van gogh and all free people everywhere and an invitation for violence towards Mr Wilder-who is welcome and would be protected here. I guarantee you that we will make a 100 more films against violent Jihadists who would steal your freedom, murder and enslave you (if they could). Shame on you "progressives" who are now aligned (and using) violent islamists as your "brown-shirted-Shock Troops" in the streets. Now, like them, you have become intolerant fascists too.
42. Europe, you cut your own throat, day by day, step by step.
Cameron ,   USA   (01.21.09)
No wonder I hear the Dutch are fleeing to other countries in growing numbers. Europe, you are running yourself absolutely into the ground. To what good end?
43. May prove opportunity to expose Truth in his defense.
Carolyn ,   USA   (01.21.09)
It is tragic for the Western Free World, but it may prove to be a fine opportunity to reiterate on a broader scale the Truth about Islam in his defense.The film will have to be shown in Court as well. Geert should counter-sue on several grounds, first, on the threats to his life as dictated by Imam,etc.
44. #32 Daniel, Amsterdam
Marco ,   Spain   (01.21.09)
Daniel, I think there is a good chance that an idiot like you will share the same cell as Wilders. Its not all bad if you think of it in a sense that you will live rent free.
45. A sign of the times
Christian ,   Sweden   (01.21.09)
Today in Europe Israel is portrayed as the new Nazi state and there is no prosecution there but applause in wide circles. On the other hand if you criticize the islamo-fascist interpretation of the Koran you are prosecuted in Holland. Nice, really nice!
46. Sad for freedom of speech!
Avigdor ,   Belgium   (01.21.09)
Holland courts have failed cuz of their scared of arabs!
47. The Muslims can say whatever they want
Neomi   (01.21.09)
Is it FEAR or STUPIDITY that rules the supreme court in Holland? Both those qualities should render the judges as unfit !!!
48. The Koran is man made plagairism from Jewish, Christian and
JMK ,   NYC   (01.21.09)
Persian sources mostly folktales and folkway than strict textual canon, most arabs cannot understand the Koran and its koranic classical literary arabic, they are in most cases just blabbing along with most muslims who don't understand a thing, what would muslims know about their book they cannot even read it, study it, criticize it.
49. Morrocans in Holland...
back2basic ,   TA/Amsterdam   (01.21.09)
As a Dutch citizen I'm astonished by the decision of the Court of Justice. I'm not a fan of Mr. Wilders but I have seen the movie and these pics we have all seen before, not something new....a lot of Morrocans can't intergrate in the Netherlands and a lot of the young Morrocans get involved with crime, but the Government is not doing nothing, they have more rights then the Dutch people...
50. To Marcel #6. Added Words in the Holy Koran.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (01.21.09)
You have quoted :” OH BELIEVERS (i.e. Muslims), TAKE NO CHRISTIANS AND JEWS AS FRIENDS, FOR THEY ARE FRIENDS TO EACH OTHERS.” Dear Marcel, Prophet Mohammed could NEVER have said the above about Christians and Jews in the Koran. IT is impossible. That will mean that some rascal Imam or Mufti MUST have put words in the mouth of Prophet Mohammed. MEANING : the translator Imam or Mufti MUST have added his own words in the Koran. BTW putting words in the mouth of Prophet Mohammed, or adding your (i.e. rascal Imam or Mufti) own words in the Koran -- will NOT be appreciated by ALLAH, the Supreme Lord. Those Muslims who did that, and the followers of that changed Koran, of that added Koran will NOT receive the blessings, will NOT receive the grace of ALLAH, the Supreme Lord. IF the Muslims continue to follow that changed Koran, that added Koran -- they will NEVER (for all eternity not) be able to please ALLAH, the Supreme Lord. You quoted :” FOR GOD DOES NOT GUIDE AN UNJUST PEOPLE “ Radical islamists and islamic jihadists ARE unjust people -- so, ALLAH doesn’t help them ; they will NOT receive guidance from ALLAH, the Supreme Lord. You quoted :” SEIZE THEM (i.e. unbelievers), BELEAGUER THEM FOR THEY ARE THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH, “ ALLAH, the Supreme Lord, has NO enemies -- NO enemies whatsoever. So, that quote could NOT have been spoken by Prophet Mohammed. BTW those Imams, Muftis who have put words in the mouth of Prophet Mohammed, those Imams, Muftis who have added words in the Holy Koran -- will NEVER go to Heaven, will NEVER meet ALLAH, the Supreme Lord, face to face !!! NEVER !!!
51. To Gee #36. Lawyer Of Mr. Geert Wilders.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (01.21.09)
The Lawyer of Mr. Geert Wilders should use your argument of TB#36 to point out the fallacy of the Amsterdam Appellate Court's decision.
52. www
sahab ,   holland   (01.21.09)
wilders are realy one psychology maniac
53. Dutch MP to be prosecuted over anti-Islam comments
Leo Abrami ,   Sun City West, AZ   (01.21.09)
Dutch MP Geert Wilders is simply responding to the teachings of the Koran which explicitly says: "So when they took pride in that which they had been forbidden, We said unto them: Be ye apes despised and loathed! (7:166)" "Shall I tell thee of a worse (case) than theirs for retribution with Allah? Worse (is the case of him) whom Allah hath cursed, him on whom His wrath hath fallen ! Worse is he of whose sort Allah hath turned some to apes and swine, and who serveth idols. Such are in worse plight and further astray from the plain road. (5:60)"
54. Moral Cowardice!
Steve   (01.21.09)
I watched Fitna several times. Fitna should be required viewing for everyone in the west. It depicts the threat honestly and accurately. You've got to wonder if yesterday's inauguration of Mr. Obama hasn't emboldened the jihadists and their allies worldwide.
55. Prosecute the Koran's verses- not the messenger (wilder)
Jae ,   Lynn   (01.21.09)
Only verses from the Koran itself are used in the movie- prosecute the verses themsleves. Dont shoot the messenger! Lunacy? or fear of Islam?
56. the Dutch are digging their own grave
bob ,   potomac md usa   (01.21.09)
By silencing Wilders, the Dutch are silencing any and all who call attention to the threat in their midst. In a few decades, Holland will be another Jumhuriyya Islamiyya. these Dutch must feel super guilty over their bad behavior in the East Indies and South Africa--to the point that they are willing to commit national suicide.
57. Why is Wilders prosecuted?
mike cato ,   usa   (01.21.09)
Could the prosecution of Wilders have anything to do with the fact that the city of ROTTERDAM, Western Europe's largest port and Holland's second largest city now has a majority muslim population and a muslim mayor. Naaaa. That couldn't be the reason, could it. Just askin '.
58. Another 10-15 years ...
leo ,   USA   (01.21.09)
... and this matter will hit critical mass and America and Israel will have to interfere in Europe in order to save local Muslims from Islamocide.
59. Dave, he's neither a hater nor a fascist
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, DC USA   (01.21.09)
Dave (#40) writes, "Now prove to me he doesn't hate Jews as well... It is the same mentality when you are fascist, you are a hater". Wilders is neither a hater nor a fascist, and he doesn't hate Jews. He just believes in freedom as a human right. He was recently in Jerusalem for a conference dealing with the Islamic threat.
60. we support you Geert Wilders !!!
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