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Gazan doctor says death toll inflated
Ynet reporters
Published: 22.01.09, 15:18
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31. # 17 & 24 LIARS!!!! Why do you blame Israel AGAIN???
Rachel ,   USA   (01.22.09)
The Italian reporter is a non Jew who hasn't been exactly soft on Israel during this conflict. The newspaper is the main Italian paper not owned by a Jew or an Israeli, HOW IS THIS ISRAELI PROPAGANDA??? Please explain to me. And again how this is a propaganda if the Israeli army is denying that the numbers were inflated? Doen't matter what Israel says or does, you guys ALWAYS have to blame it on Israel. You know how I call that? Anti-Semitism and use of double standards for Israel and the rest of the world.
32. I don't hear anymore suicide bombing in Israel?
Maria ,   MD   (01.22.09)
do you? People need to put iron fence around Gaza with no gates at all so that they won't bother their own brothers in the West Bank.
33. TELL US SOMETHING WE DON'T ALREADY KNOW!
stude ham   (01.22.09)
the nice round casualty figures coming out of gaza adding an extra 100 ... exactly 100 extra per day... clearly indicated the foulness of the statistical reliabilty from hamas propagandists.
34. GAZA
Rh ,   USA   (01.22.09)
Not a single Israeli has died from the alleged 6000 rockets. It's pretty clear we are talking about something akin to bottle rockets. It's always fascinating watching Israelis rationalize their inhumanity to others.
35. To Jefferson
Wiseman ,   Tel Aviv   (01.22.09)
1) The article clearly says the IDF still believes over a 1000 are dead. 2) An Italian newspaper reported what that doctor said. (not Israeli) 3) The Palestinians have been caught time and time again lying. Jenin, Muhammed Al-Durrah... A few days ago they reported a settler shot a young Palestinian to death, later found out he died from a stone he threw at the settler's car. (the stone bounced back from the tire)
36. #10, 17,18,22,24...
gali ,   israel   (01.22.09)
pathetic all of you, #18 you spelt children wrong but then again if you pallies had any brains you would also know how to count , #22 go back to Gaza and leave Jrslm to the rightful owners(us jews).#24 we dont deny shit and we will proudly do it again if we have to, #17 we have God to know the truth(something you dont believe in) and last of all #10 fuck off
37. Mike, 15, Truer words haven't been spoken
Darren ,   Oakland, CA   (01.22.09)
but just try telling this to the keffiyed masses screaming "Free, free Palestine!"
38. #17 Jason you ovbiously have no brain
Debbie ,   Toronto   (01.22.09)
Save your drivel talkback for al jazeera
39. #34
(01.22.09)
my friend, you are totally wrong and need to read more newspapers!!!! since 2000 and the start of the second intifada and up to now with 8,000 (not 6,000) hamas missiles raining on israel even after we left gaza in 2005, 1,200 plus israelis have been killed, maimed, hospitalized without legs and arms, brain dead from shrapnel, killed by suicide bombers from hamas gaza area who infiltrated israel and not to mention the heavy economic cst to israel infrastructure and businesses and economy form the 8,000 kasams since 2005. also, hundreds of homes were demolished, factories hit, cars burned, streets and infrastructure destroyed by the 8,000 kasams. israel is not like hamas. they don't show the death toll from hamas aggression. they don't have a pr that exploits the damage done by these terrorists in israel. they don't rush with cameras to report on death of israelis so that the world will take pity!!! they don't dishonor the dead and use them as propaganda fodder for world sympathy. they bury them with the dignity they deserve instead of using their mutilated bodies for propaganda. ''you do not know the arab mind and especially that of hamas. if you knew, you would be shocked by what they do. i was a luitenant in gaza in this war and we saw many homes with civilians locked inside by hamas and the house was surrounded by hamas bobby traps and bombs, hoping the israeli soldiers would open the door and blow up with the gaza families inside so that hamas can kill us and still claim we killed that family. you don't know what they are capable of doing or thinking. i wish you could see that they pick little boys from streets and put them near the terrorist bodies and fight with the little boys by their side so idf won't kill them, but shoot the boy in their hands. hamas bring their terrorists into un homes, schools and buildings and hospitals and clinics and put all the missiles and weapons there. we found a map of hamas in a un sc hool with lots of grads and missiles and katyushas and kasams in the basement of un school with the books thrown out from shelves so that hamas can put all the medicine and food they steal from the un relief trucks that cross from israel into gaza. there we found grenades and also cans of gasoline for their operation, wires with bombs to encircle palestinian homes, etc... this was by a zoo, which hamas also bobby trapped, poor animals were going to blow up if our soldiers didn't difuse this bomb wires. we found families of between 10 to 80 people with the children and parents and grandparesnts locked inside houses by hamas with no food and no water and nothing inside. they were cold and frosen and when we difuse the bomb wire circling the home, they kissed us and told us thank you and that hamas locked them on purpose and left them to die. this is hamas my friend. you have no idea what you are talking about. try to be an idf soldier and see what the hamas true face is. you will be shocked. do you think gazans like hamas. they are afraid. look what they do to fatheh everyday. no one wants to speak against them because they will be dead.
40. #10 - You have to be kidding me
Joel ,   NYC   (01.22.09)
It's amazing how all the people against Isreal show hateful tones, I find that interesting. That said, Hamas broke the cease fire. That's why, before the invasion, Hamas wasn't attacked. Idiot Anyway, I don't expect any anti-semite or Palestinian to understand. Only those who survive the holocaust, only those surrounded by a billion who hate them, only those, despite the odds, who win nobel peace prizes and grow their own veggies and build an economy can understand. That's why the 'evil jews' who reply do not lower themselves to the 'loving victim supporting' posts of those who hate them. You are an idiot and a coward of the tallest order.
41. Dissinformation
Marc Villa ,   Houston   (01.22.09)
I could'nt believe anything coming out of Israel
42. To #22
(01.22.09)
Counter-terrorism in West Bank doesn't apply to the "ceasefire" in Gaza, I give it quote symbols because it was a one-sided ceasefire where Israel was opening it borders to deliver aid and get rockets in response. Good luck watching Muslim Brotherhood's Al Jazeera channel.
43. Gazan doctor says death toll inflated
Matt ,   Buffalo, USA   (01.22.09)
Where is Amnesty International now or are they not interested in child sacrifice?
44. #17 hamas knew war was coming to their neighbourhood
r.f.   (01.22.09)
they have been preparing for it a long time. the only thing they neglected after bilding bunkers, tunnels, under ground amunition warehouses, placing missile launchers in mosks and boobytrapping schools and their zoo, is protection for their citizens. not for lack of means but as a deliberate tactic . leaving israel to warn civilians they are harboring terrorists in their midst, and therefore should leave the area. hamas didn't concern themselves about warning civilians they are going to fire at the idf from a certain quarter, or town, this is unthinkable for us as israelis. we expect government to provide safety shelters, commanders to take front line in battles, and public officials to withstand our constant criticism.
45. inflated numbers
nick ,   richmond VA USA   (01.22.09)
Hamasi nflating casualties? Gee whiz, ya think? The IDF needs to go back and finish off the U.N.
46. Hey Jason...South Africa
Dan ,   Trenton USA   (01.22.09)
You are dead wrong. IDF is staying with earlier death toll. This was a GAZAN doctor who reported this. By the way, do you actually believe Hamas to be truthful??? Silly.
47. Anonymous Source
Ed ,   USA   (01.22.09)
Watergate was reported on by an anonymous source . . . good thing we took that as fact.
48. Roscio, how right you are. Bravo for Corriere della Sera.
AK   (01.22.09)
European media and the UN do not care about the truth and openly and unblushingly lie. Corriere della Sera is a rare exception. But what can be said about the Israeli media which blindly followed the enemy's propaganda talking points. Ynet is one of the offenders who have been pumping in false casualty reports, as provided by Hamas sources. Haaretz went even farther -- their writers openly crossed over to the side of the enemy taking up their cause, while Israeli young men were fighting and loosing their lives and suffering injuries .
49. Gaza massacre
abdelaziz ,   Uk   (01.22.09)
The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) says it will open an investigation into Israel's alleged use of depleted uranium during its 22-day offensive in the Gaza Strip. Wednesday's announcement came after Arab nations sent a letter to Mohammed ElBaradei, the IAEA director-general, asking the UN agency to investigate whether the controversial munitions were used in the war, which left more than 1,300 Palestinians dead.
50. No. 39
Paul V ,   Lake Charles, USA   (01.22.09)
God bless you , sir, for your service and insight. This Catholic American remains clueless as to why the majority Palestinians would vote to be represented by a group of thugs like Hamas, even considering that Fatah is only marginally less psychotic.
51. paulo from portugal,
AK   (01.22.09)
ever bothered to look at Israeli buildings destroyed by quassams and grads? It appears that in your version of inverted morality it is all right to shoot rockets into the bedrooms of Israeli babies, but not all right to destroy those who do that shooting. Shame on you for defending Arab terrorists and thirsting for Jewish blood. Jews do have a right to self defense and they have every right to kill who try to kill them. Your money and moral support for Islamist terrorists from Gaza and those who support them make you responsible for every drop of Jewish blood spilled. Gaza is choked? No. It is Sderot that is choked. Gazans get your money for food and bombs and there isn't shortage of any. Is Europe going to pay for rebuilding bombed houses in Sderot and Ashelon, you hypocrite? Are you worried about Shalit? Where is the Red Cross the UN and the Civil Rights Watch demanding access to see if Shalit is being treated well? Europe is already paying for their continuing crimes against the Jewish people by being steadily Islamised and destroyed from within. You in Portugal will pay the price of your mindless hate towards Jews, as well. Such a lack of morality as yours is unforgivable, indeed.
52. Gazan doctor says death toll inflated
hh ,   Los Angeles   (01.22.09)
Really? This sounds like propaganda. One unknown Italian source out beats all other reliable media outlet companies--BBC, CNN, the economist. There are over 1.2 million people in Gaza. of the 1.2 HALF are children. Therefore, out of the 1,200 or more dead at least 400 were CHILDREN. Forget your nationalism right now and just think: who is occupying whom?
53. To all supporters of Hamas
Roland ,   Blackpool U.K.   (01.22.09)
I suggest that you all go on to Google and put in "a letter to the citizens of Gaza from a Neighbour" written by David. This tells it as it is.
54. 10 - Hey, Paulo !!
Marce ,   Bs.Aires - Argentina   (01.22.09)
In what world have you been living for the last 30 days? Do you really believe in what you wrote?
55. image tell it all
Norbert Lipic ,   France->Paris   (01.22.09)
Yeah, as the image of Al Dura for which it took 8 years to finally discover that it was a fake. Yes when a house contains explosives and it is fired a it explodes. And if there are dead people in it who is to blame: the people who put deliberately explosives in hoses where people live and prevnt the people to get out commit a warcrime according to international law. Pity should not blind the reason.
56. Nothing New
Zohan ,   Tel Aviv   (01.22.09)
IDF had been tricked into attacking civilian buildings where Hamas foot soldiers are firing from. The real Hamas had changed into civilian clothing. Once Hamas are re-armed, they are back to square one. This comes down to the incompetency of Barak and his strategists.
57. #10 Believes what he sees is abosolutely blinding
Zohan ,   Tel Aviv   (01.22.09)
Hamas is a great deceiver, pretender and actors. I believe #10 believes WWE wrestling is real.
58. The pictures reflect the Palestinians' mistake
Jon DeLozier ,   USA   (01.22.09)
>> israelis want to believe they did nothing to the Gazans. All you have to do is to watch the pictures of dozens of buildings destroyed..,pictures of civilians killed. What a DUMB comment. First of all, Isreal NEVER said they didn't do anything to Gazans. What they said was the hamas was using civilians as shields. Second, and MOST IMPORTANT, is the fact the the Palestinians ELECTED to be human shields. They didn't HAVE to elect hamas. They CHOOSE to elect hamas. The picutues simply refect THEIR mistake. Next election, you think they will make that mistake again? Either way, since it is their mistake, it's appropriate that THEY live with the consequences OF that mistake, not Isreal.
59. All you terrorist lovers
tech ,   harrisburg, USA   (01.22.09)
You know I could never understand the rationality of you people that support a group of terrorist that recruit young men and women to kill innocent people.
60. Gaza
Tiberius ,   NYC   (01.22.09)
No surprise. The editor of Corriere Della Sera is an Italian Jew.
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