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Priest: Gas chambers were for disinfection
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Published: 29.01.09, 18:18
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1. Why?
(01.29.09)
What is the obessision of posting all this stuff about priests, and all the others who spew this garbage. Your publication only plays on it, and provides them with more attention. IGNORE THESE IDIOTS, and don't depress some of your readers who lived through past tragedies. It's enough already.
2. Back to the future
Arie ,   BaGolan   (01.29.09)
The Vatican of the 21st century is totally reminiscent of the Vatican of the Inquisition and Shoah, the Crusades and pogroms. Beatifying popes that sided with hitler, a queen that promoted the inquisition, bringing 'back to the fold' a bishop that openly denies there were ever any attacks against Jews, and now this. After years in denial, the vatican is again willing to show its true colours
3. Gas chambers used for disinfection
Barbara ,   Haifa Israel   (01.29.09)
I don't believe that in this day and age, that a priest is saying this drivel. Who is paying him? Maybe someone should check his bank account - my suspicion is that some rich muslim is backing him. And to the media - how can you print this? Aren't you ashamed of yourselves? Can't you just ignore these idiots? They egos feed on the attention.
4. yeanother from this soiled nest: read the whole thing
charicleia ,   USA   (01.29.09)
read the full interview at the Catholic National Reporter. He's another leader in the same traditionalist Society of St. Pius X. another leader in the traditionalist Society of St. Pius X
5. Wow
Zev ,   USA   (01.29.09)
6. #1, #3 Ignoring hate-mongering is the wrong apporach.
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (01.29.09)
It is equivalent to burying your head in the sand and ignoring reality. If we don't see this, these statements and the people who make them, and the fact that people listen to them and believe them, then we can't fight this madness, now can we? No, we can just sit and wait for the next "cleansing", pretending that everything is fine...
7. Catholic Church
Ronald ,   South Africa   (01.29.09)
Also known as the false church & the church of Satan.A cover to contoll peoples lives & certainly a homosexual based cult. Its 2000 years of slaughtering, torturing,burning & demeaning innocent people, hasnt changed & never will & all this in the name of a Jewish rabbi called Jesus Christ, how ironically ridiculous.G-D will judge them one day.
8. Someone get him a dictonary
Eric ,   Tel Aviv   (01.29.09)
Israel did nothing that even vaguely resembles an attempt at genocide. While the Nazi attempt to exterminate every Jew in Europe is by definition genocide. Please understand the words you are so strongly abusing. Given the horrible treatment that the Palestinians have received for 60 years at the hands of their Muslim brothers and the problems that they have caused those same brothers (attempting to over throw Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon) this priest should be sent back to school to learn English and History.
9. Comparing
ZS ,   USA   (01.29.09)
I do not know if this priest was a prominent person, but even some prominent people, whether famous, or infamous, try to compare the Gaza op to the holocaust. It should be noted that during WWII, Jews were not calling for the destruction of Germany, and in fact those in Germany considered themselves to be proud Germans. Also, there were no Jews launching rockets on civilian German populations, or raising their children to believe that it was glorious to die while trying to kill Germans. Even during the Ghetto uprising in Poland, the targets were the soldiers, and not random civilians. As Wafa Sultan put it, "We have not seen a single Jew blow himself up in a German restaurant." These are a few of the many reasons why the Gaza op and Holocaust were different.
11. Ynet does well to inform on this topic
Avi ,   Geneva   (01.29.09)
it is certainly in all media in Europe.
12. Pope opened this pandora's box
Yerushalmi ,   Jerusalem   (01.29.09)
By his actions he sent out the message that holocaust denial is ok in catholic church. Even if that was not his intention, that was the result. Same thing happened with leftist media, Ken Livingstone, etc, they gave teudat kashrut on antisemitism, and so you have protests in europe where they are chanting "Hamas hamas hamas jews to the gas", and a leftist member of parlament marching with them.
13. His Father
Len ,   USA   (01.29.09)
I am sure his father, grandfather and grandmother and their parents would be proud. At least, he has no children.
14. Gaza and Warsaw Ghetto 1
I. Barr MD ,   USA   (01.29.09)
In multiple Gaza pro Hamas demonstrations large signs and speeches compared Gaza to Ghetto Warsaw. The comparative of the two is ridiculous, but to the ignorant the massage is clear. Jews are doing to the Gazans what Nazi did to the Jews. Equating Israel IDF to criminal Nazi is meant to put both in the same category, the category of the brutal war criminals who killed the Jews and now these Jews are acting in the same way. Thus the moral foundation of Israel and it standing among nations is tarnished. When these kind of allegations come from Hamas/Iranian propagandists who do not care about details they can be easily dismissed. When similar allegations come from Richard A. Falk who is UN special rapporteur for High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) in the occupied West Bank and Gaza Strip these are malicious one sided anti Semitic characterization. He said "To lock people into a war zone (in Gaza) is something that evokes the worst kind of international memories of the Warsaw Ghetto, and sieges that occur unintentionally during a period of wartime," (01/24/2009). Richard A. Falk is an professor emeritus of international law at Princeton University, writer (the author or co-author of 20 books), speaker, activist on world affairs, and an appointee to two United Nations positions on the Palestinian territories. He knew or should have known that comparing Gaza to Warsaw Ghetto is incorrect.To gain legitimacy Falk identifies himself as an American Jew. Abrahamowicz is doing the same These supposedly intellectual were the foundation that legitimized Nazi genocide of Jews.
15. Gaza and Ghetto Warsaw 2
I. Barr ,   USA   (01.29.09)
Ghetto Warsaw: In 1940, around 440,000 Jews from all over Poland were transported into a 3.5 square mile of Warsaw (126,000 Jews/square mile). Warsaw Ghetto had no agriculture, industry or dwellings. They were exposed to harsh Poland winters without proper heating. Nazis refused to allow enough food into the ghetto. By July 1942, 80,000 of the Jews died due to starvation and disease. Jewish uprising happened when they realized that they are deported to extermination camps. About a 100 of them armed with sticks and pistols attacked the German army and were brutally killed. No German civilians were involved. While world leaders knew what is going on, very little was done to support them. Children and infants, women and elderly were deliberately killed. Jews in Warsaw Ghetto did not have an ideology that calls to kill all Germans. Rather, they tried to survive. Gaza "ghetto": Gaza has 139 square miles with 1,400,000 Arab population (11,000 Gazans/square mile) who lived there for years. 18% of Jews died in Ghetto Warsaw within two years. If same happened in Gaza 252,000 would have died. Gaza does not have the harsh Poland winter, has fields of produce, chicken, sheep and fish. Have usually electricity and running water, hospitals and schools. They are supplied by Israel and by smuggling through tunnels. They have full support from UNWRA, Arab and Muslim states as well as many other countries and organizations. They regularly attack Israeli civilians. Hamas usually is acting from residential areas and use children as human shields. Like Nazi philosophy Hamas Covenant calls not only for destruction Israel but also to kill the Jews, all the Jews. Nazi treatment of Jews: Gestapo official in Warsaw: "It is permissible to take from a Jew everything….Whoever wishes may kill a Jew, and our law will not punish him for it." Hamas treatment of Jews: same. This comparison of Gaza and Ghetto Warsaw should have been clear to professor Falk. It is only difficult to understand what does UN High Commissioner for Human Rights try to achieve by supporting a sophisticated liar? Will it advance the rights of Palestinians? Obviously the right of Jews, as in Ghetto Warsaw, were never an issue. Falk has no legitimacy, not as a Jew and not as a human being even if he will pray by the Wailing Wall. As before and ever Hamas terrorists will celebrate and Israeli will be more radicalized by the likes of Falk. The fact that Israel did not allow Falk to enter the country has to be taken further and be a warning to all those who criticize Israel: Israel endorses discussion, free speech and criticism. In turn free speech has to be based on facts, be accurate, fair, balanced, responsible and itself open to criticism. Free speech can be a powerful tool to advance our society but it cannot be a shouting match or a licence to kill. Richard A. Falk and alike should not be given a stage in a responsible media
16. What he meant was "deratization"
Matityahu ,   Slovenia   (01.29.09)
He got lost in the terminology apparently. Have no doubt, he only speaks what the Vatican's doesn't want to say loud.
17. Who are these people?
Bridget O'Shaunessey ,   San Francisco   (01.29.09)
In the last three decades Americans have become aware of an epidemic of sexual abuse of Catholic children by Catholic priests, priests who often have been shielded by higher-ups within the Church. The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops set up a national review board in 2002 aimed at "preventing the sexual abuse of minors in the United States by persons in the service of the Church." Numerous individual priests have been criminally charged and convicted in abuse cases, and Catholic dioceses around the U.S. have agreed to settle civil lawsuits. As but one of many examples, in 2007 the Los Angeles archdiocese agreed to pay $660 million to 508 victims, among the largest settlements in the U.S. priest scandal. This is who you're dealing with. As for the Holy Father himself, he belonged to the Hitler Youth and was interned by the Allies in a prisoner-of-war camp for German soldiers. So what can one expect?
18. idiot
lawrence ,   phila. usa   (01.29.09)
Don't give the idiot credit. He also believes that Bush blew up the world trade center. #2 you better go back and study history. you are a victim of historical propaganda.
19. And he dares to say : i'm not antisemite
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.29.09)
What will you do now , you Pope Benedictus ? Is'nt it time to have a clean up ? You condemned what this williamson said , fine . You forbade them to talk about history , fine . Now we are awaiting a stronger reaction from you , to put an end to all those antisemite remarks of your people .
20. rehabilitation? is it the code of appeasement?
observer   (01.29.09)
21. even if you converted them into Judaism, they wouldn't lie
observer   (01.29.09)
22. Floriano .Abrahamowicz
Charles   (01.29.09)
another self hating yid not all are lefties
23. gas chamber
lisa ,   israel   (01.29.09)
if you really believe the gas chambers were just for disinfected purposes than I am pretty sure the germans would be happy to run the gas chambers for you alone. Good Luck!
24. priest' statement
allan ,   toronto canada   (01.29.09)
What is really shocking is how someone in a religious establishment cannot see the difference between the holocaust and what went on in Gaza. They cannot even be compared.Where did this man learn his morality or truth?
25. hatred
Ilana   (01.29.09)
people, welcome to raw hatred. That is what it is. When a person is willing to make such comparisons, then only deep dark hatred of Jews is the reason. He knows the truth. I am not belittling thedeathof even one civilian, God forbid! But to compare Gaza to genocide, which is systematic killing of an entire race and includes torture and inhumane medical experiments without any painkillers or anaesthetics on children as well as as others, to a point of 6 million- how can any sane human even begin to compare? Perhaps they don't really know what happened in the holocaust? It is outrageous and a threat to the entire world of sane people.
26. never forget
dave ,   uk   (01.29.09)
It's up to us to keep their memory alive because the vatican has something else in mind
27. I Bar 14 & 15
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (01.29.09)
The big difference is : we , contrary to the nazis , don't want to exterminate people . Had they wanted to live in peace , they could have achieved it , without any opposition of us , the contrary . We always wanted to live in peace here .
28. #9 Compare - Sorry , perhap if the Jews
the Prophet   (01.29.09)
had fought back during WW2, they wouldn't have ended up on the Gazan's back door. Compare dead Israeli to dead Palistinians to dead ww2 Jews, does it make it not a Holocaust?
29. #15 I. Barr --Our you trying to legitimize
the Prophet ,   Ouar   (01.29.09)
the Holocaust? That is Denial, you are an anti-semetic.
30. Let's "cleanse" this racist's soul by forcing him to live in
The Doc ,   Haifa, Israel   (01.29.09)
Sderot for 8 years, while taking care of Holocaust survivors and cleaning windows at Yad Va'Shem. THAT will clarify to him what terror, genocide and racism is. This self-hating Jew is looking for publicity and placing a malicious stain on Vatican. Israel should call the Vatican Ambassador and request explanations why the Pope accepts this scum under his roof instead of rejecting their racist claims. Is this the official stand of the Vatican? Where is Tzipi Livni's Foreign Ministry? Ah, I know - BUSY WITH her elections! Oh well, now she has one less vote to count on - MINE!
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