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'Scared to be identified as Jews'
Yedioth Ahronoth
Published: 01.02.09, 15:03
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31. to mikhael
altaic ,   antalya   (02.02.09)
I always say Israel has natural borders and other people should respect that beside I hate HAMAS and its supporters I only care about children. however you should pay an attention to the historical facts reminder 1 current map of mid easr has been drown in club house in UK by a man woman with a ruler and man without caring population with the exception Turkey hasKurdish support Our existince in mesopotomia was not start with ottomans as we were there over 1000 years more than white americans in america as far as i know you have at least 3 articles in your constition may be inherited from ottomans rule. past history has plenty imperial powers as ours . reminder 2 You never willing to give them a land until international communiteies remind you as it was planned your state's foundation in 1948 but was not put in effect till negotiations very recent. If you are really planing to give their independence why did you wait for 61 years. (dont tell arap israel wars.) you must question your self why these people wish to live under our rule over 500 years even empire's weakest times until Lawrence provocate them. and an UK invasion. They had more lands then today with self rule. becaouse mostly ottomans was allowing to local authority and provide them poor anatolian turks wealth. We have the tittle of barbarian turks as well as ottoman justice which even our enemies admit True friends tallk bitter my friend . you are very close even slihgt critissm perceived as anti-semitism. I did not heard any thing fro our PM about anti semitic but an anger agains moderator. I know mr peres contribitun to world peace nobel prize. we are not completey sympatic to arabs with a their dagger I must admit that we must solve our problems then our neigbors if we cleanse the greeks in cyprus ethnicl what is that country in EU. We stop our operation at our will. if you believe a genocide happend to armenians just recognize it no black mail please. dont use a tool when you argue with Turkey. also if someone tried to kill some turkish jews aro me i will protect them like our police in synagoges I belive turkish jews has many contributions to Turkey developments I also deniyn collective responsiblletiy of any nation descendants if really happent with regards from eternal friend
32. False, reallly false, a little
Cumhur Cumba ,   İstanbul   (02.02.09)
The statemnet of Jewish woman who living in Istanbul about difficulties faced by Jews in Turkey nowadays, really false in wake of Gaza. I am a member of the community, but, I am not never facing such attitute. Please, a little common sense and true statement shalom.
33. What a shame
Adam ,   Jerusalem   (02.02.09)
Israel has tarnished its relationship with Turkey and many other countries. Its time to realise that our approach is non consistent with that of the worlds.
34. #33
Mark ,   Israel   (02.02.09)
"Its time to realise that our approach is non consistent with that of the worlds" And it's never been. Thank God
35. #28 #30 Kurds Armenians Greeks Turks...
(02.02.09)
Of course there are answers but ignorance and hatred towards the Turks stops some minds like yourselves to see it. About Armenian genocide claims, Ottoman archives are open!!! Come and do research. Turkey has officially invited all parts for a historical research who were involved in the case i.e. the Turks, the Bitish, the Americans, the Friench, the Armenians, the Russians to conduct historical research and debate as this is the job of historians but not the lobby groups. You can also find many evidence in British and Russian archives related to this case. However, Armenians strictly have been refusing this and Armenian archives are closed!!! I wonder why??? Is there anything that they would like to hide? For truth we need historical research and evidence not propogandist websites. Turkey legally intervened in Cyprus under international law as Turkish community was under attack in Cyprus. Search for Makarios. About Kurds, I am of ethnically mixed origin living in Turkey. PKK and the Kurds are different. Kurds and Turks live together. There is no occupation of Kurdish lands by Turkey as it is the case for the West Bank and Gaza. PKK seperatists applied terror and inflicted pain in all sides. Turkey is a young state and is improving its democracy and human rights gradually. Turkey is not opposed to Kurdish region or a Kurdish state in Iraq and improving its talks with Kurdish authorities in Iraq. And, Ottomans...it was an empire where once the Muslims, Jews, Christians, Turks, Greeks, Arabs, Kurds, Armenians all lived together until the emergence of nationalism. That's the dynamic of history, ideologies change, some day nationalism might fade and others might emerge... Peace out. Have a nice day guys.
36. #25 Why don't you talk about Armenians massacres of Jews?...
(02.02.09)
Armenian gangs killed thousands of Jews during WWI. And, why don't you talk about Armenia'a alliance with Iran and their love affair with Ahmedinejad the Holocaust denier? Oh, yeah, Ahmedinejad supports your occupation of Azeri land.
37. Most normal Turks left a long time ago
Rami ,   UK   (02.02.09)
Remember there has been a huge brain-drain in the 7 figures for decades to Germany and Austria - any Turk who wasn't one of the elites and wanted a normal life already emigrated a long time ago. Only the retards are left.
38. Number 35
Leon ,   Grand Rapids USA   (02.03.09)
And the earth is flat !
39. come on
sarah ,   jerusalem   (02.03.09)
here in israil you will be israili but not jewish like most of us , but it is not safer . so be a jewish wherever you want to be and do not scared to be yourselfe
40. #38 Is this your contribution to a discussion?
(02.03.09)
Then that is flat, not the world. Research and think with a open mind.
41. #31Not Accurate
Brana Lobel ,   Israel   (02.03.09)
Altaic: 1)so the map was drawn by Brits, we took what we could get at that point. The Brits were calling the shots then; that is history my friend as you point out. I won't go into our historical rights to the land but I hope you know what they are. I don't know who you trace yourself back to--maybe the Assyrians but as far as I know you are as "white" as any American. 2)They got land--much more than our portion--Jordan. It's filled with them. Check your history. I don't think the Jews under Ottoman rule really liked them but for us it was the better of bad choices. As for the Arabs, whoiever was around the Turks could not best them militarily--otherwise they would have tried to take over--and probably succeeded as in Spain, places in the Middle East, North Africa, Far East etc. They have had a history of war/conquering--where they could--for the 1400 years of Islam. The Turks were known to be fierce and savage fighters and it took extreme effort by a few people to push them back at the gates of Vienna in 1683. I think Jews are very foolish to remain in your country when they can come to their own.
42. If that is the case in Turkey,then all
Eric.... ,   Israel...   (02.06.09)
Turkish Jews should come home too Israel.Israelies dont go to Turkey for a holiday.The Turks love our money,but hate us like poison.
43. i am a Turkish Jew in NY
rozi ennekavi ,   New York   (02.09.09)
I CAN NOT BELIEVE , this is happening all over again,,, I CAN NOT BELIEVE , ISRAEL can not use media to show what those terrorists mother do when they go explode themselves,,,(they thank Allah) I can not believe , we cant raise our voice to show to the world, there are the muslims,,,AND THAN THERE ARE THE TERRORISTS!!! Tha brainwashed soo many generations of uneducated women , WOMEN that become mothers to give birth to future terrorists to go EXPLODE THEMSELVES along innocent people because they think they are going to heaven!!!! DONT YOU SEE!!! WE WILL NEVER WIN... Because we are not showing to the world how these unfortunate people think!!! WHY DO THE WORLD GO AFTER CELEBRITIES and fallow themmm!!! They should ask to regular people like us,,that lived in a MUSLIM COUNTRY growing up as a jew and settled TO A cHRISTIAN COUNTRY!!! I WAS EXPOSED TO ALL 3 RELIGIONS DEEPLY over 40 years of life... I can not believe we DONT have a voice!!! what,,,if i was ANGELINA JOLIE...would they listen to me!!! i am sure even you guys wont publish this,,, anyway,,, I AM JUST SOO HUET BY THE LACK OF COMUNICATION,,,from the handful jews,,,TO THE WORLD!!!!
44. moshe SIMCHA
ROZI ENNEKAVI ,   NEW YORK   (02.09.09)
What a story i read,,,i feel awful about your experience in Turkey,,but that certainly is not the case at my fathers synagogue in ORTAKOY that is named after my brother we lost when he was 21 a few years ago!!! And , please before you publish deteriorating incorrect news about TURKISH JEWS just write that you know only maybe a handful of them,,BUT WE ARE 25 THOUSAND,,and never let a jew go home without a meal!!!!or anyone thats asks us we welcome!!! we take precautions but WE WELCOME THEM!!!
45. this is for you my friend
rozi ennekavi ,   nw york   (02.09.09)
#37 i can not believe ,,,i CAN NOT BELIEVE,,,you can call a whole comunity RETARDS!!!! How about giving a thought ,,,maybe because of us THE TURKISH JEWS!!!Turkey hold on soo many years not to become like the rest of all MUSLIM COUNTRIES!!!! I can not believe HOW SMALL MINDED someone like yourself SHOULD NOT BE!!! U,,,should embrace NOT DEGRADE!!! I Hope you find peace !!!
46. To Rozi
Turk ,   Istanbul, Turkey   (02.11.09)
It looks like we once lived in the same area Ortakoy which is a wonderful part of Istanbul. As you said, Turkey hold on so many years not to become like the rest of all Muslim countries. Yes, we are going through tough times with this government but we'll get over this too. Some fanatics will not damage secular Turkey and Turkish-Jewish friendship. With best wishes and peace.
47. Everything going as planned, the only safe place
Israeli ,   Israel   (02.17.09)
for Jews is israel, G-d willing.
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