# 7 Being smart ,and the human desire to blame and to hurt others,are 2 separate things,people are susceptible to any idea,true or false,it is true you can not fool all of the people all of the time,but you can fool a lot of people,for a very long time,especially, in hard times.

After a year of listening to a recent chinese arrival in cape town expressing derogatory racial comments about blacks (in south africa in 2009 too?) she finally learnt "sound clips " derogatory racial comments about jews.......

Amir in Canada writes, "Jews were living in their full rights and in a lot of harmony in all Arab countries, they also used to live in Islamic Spain (Granda, Cordoba, and Andalucia) until the Christian Inquisitions came and started to torture both Muslims and Jews." Tell that to the Jews of Arabia who were ultimately despoiled, enslaved, exiled or killed down to the last soul during Mohammed's time. Tell that to the Jews (and Christians and Zoroastrians) who had to live under the restrictions of the Pact of Umar established after the Arabs conquered Jerusalem. Tell that to the Jews of Spain who fled to Christian provinces when the Almohades - the Wahhabists of the time - arrived to "purify" Islam. He asks us to "read the history before judge". Take your own advice, Amir. Read the sources in, for example, Stillman's "The Jews of Arab Lands". Or Sachar's "Farwell, Espana". Or Bat Ye'or's books on Dhimmitude.

Let's make it clear, anti-Semitism is a Christian invention first by the British and then all over Europe. Jews suffered a lot from Christian anti-Semitism for 2000 years mainly in Europe. However, then Israel was built, Christian Europeans had to understand that they could not erase us from the earth. With the awful guilt of their past, Christian Europeans have been supporting us only in last 60 years. As for Muslims, like it or not, it is true that Jews were much safer in Muslim countries than in Christian countries for centuries. But, it all changed with the establishment of Israel, Israeli-Palestinian conflict and all those wars. Now, some Muslims turned into anti-Semites too. So, here it is, European Christians are trying to clear themselves off their racism and anti-Semitism and Muslims are borrowing it from them right at this point.

#25 Steven--ROTFL!!!! Thanks for the best laugh I've had all day. Munch on your matzoh. No kidding. You forgot that all Chinese must deliver food every day to Israel, with extra fried rice and duck sauce (free) so that we can teach them the secret$ of making money. First, a mint. Then, metal.... #29 Maansingh, not mindboggling, but totally mindless. It shows that there is no one as dumb as a computer engineer who gets beyond himself and constructs theories out of thin air, except for the people who support him.

about the coming bird flu vaccine that will actually CAUSE a bird flu epidemic (H5N1 virus) that is expected to kill hundreds of millions of people in America, Canada, and Australia, so those lands will be cleansed for easier takeover by the Red Chinese who need colonies for their ever-expanding population. YES. You guessed it. The JEWS are being blamed because the vaccines are being made using human (Chinese) kidney cells instead of egg, the normal incubation matter for vaccines. The 1918 Spanish Flu H5N1 bird flu virus was obtained from a frozen body in Alaska and the DNA genome decifered to put into the bird flu vaccine that will be mandatory for populations slated for decimation. The vaccine will actually CAUSE the bird flu, but six months after the injections to make it look like the pandemic was not from the vaccines. But the Jews must be involved since the antidote was discovered in Israel: Sambucol elderberry syrup. So keep lots of that on hand. Oh, and the Jews are also being blamed now for the Georgia Guidestones monument erected by the Free Masons that tell what the master plan is for the world: 500 million people with the rest killed off.

Well, last time I checked, Paul was a rabbi who studied under Gamaliel; Mark, Matthew, John, Peter, Jude, were Jews from the Galil. Jesus, a Jew from Natzaret. Jesus' followers: Jews. Pilate and his soldiers who crucified Jesus: Gentile Italians. First churches: made up of Jews. So, you are telling me that the New Testament is anti-semitic in nature, when it was written by Jews about a Jew who got crucified by gentiles? Again, saying Christians are anti-semites by nature is like saying Jews are greedy by nature. Christians read scriptures written by Jews about a Jew who taught and healed Jews and whose followers were Jews. But we're anti-semitic by nature. Ok. Sure lol.

and as far as the Persian serving in the roman mercenary force employed by the last of the Maccabees (Antigonus II Mattathias) he was far less "King of the Jews" as Herod the Edomite. Look hitler wouldn't have called himself antisemitic either. hitler clearly said he was a christian doing what was right as a sovereign during time of war. What you need to read is "Jesus the Pharisee" by Jacob Nuesner AKA Hyam Maccoby. You can laugh and you can chuckle and you can claim confusion, disorientation, misrepresentation and obfuscation just as all those reverent christians at the Nuremberg trials did but remember this "A mind is a terrible thing to waste". read a book

the vaccines is owned in large part by the Rockefellers, the American Rothschilds, who are descended from Jews. The H5N1 bird flu 1918 Spanish flu virus kills mostly people from the age of 18 to 34. That is why it had to be resurrected from a corpse in Alaska that has been frozen for nearly a hundred years. Killing off the soldier age population makes it more difficult for a nation to resist an invasion. Red China wants to "cleanse" nations before it attacks, but not with nuclear or anthrax or other weapons that make the area uninhabitable for a long time. Killing off hundreds of millions of people with vaccines get rid of the people without contaminating the land. Growing the vaccines on human kidney cells makes the bird flu attack humans instead of just birds or swine. The kidneys give it that crossover effect to kill humans.

Jesus an Edomite? rofl. Even the non-Christian Jewish historian Josephus wrote about a Jesus and His Jewishness. I'm not getting into petty arguments with you. If you want to be prejudiced against Christianity and call us and it anti-semitic, go ahead, no skin off my nose. We anti-semitic Christians will continue funding West bank settlements, hospitals such as Shaarei Tzedek, Nefesh Bnefesh and countless others, writing pro-Israel to our MP's and being branded names by Muslims who see us as Jew-lovers. As for reading books, I don't know what kind of a petty insult that is, but you know nothing about Christianity (I can tell you've never read the New Testament), so I'm not going to bother. As for Nuremberg, the Nazis strongly delved into the occult of Madame Blavatsky and other satanic occultists, which is opposed to Christianity. Christianity advocates protecting the weak, occultic Naziism advocates eliminating them. So, throw all the bizarre petty insults you like, we Christians are going to keep throwing money at Israel to bless her and you can't do anything about it. :) Have a nice week.

have the bird flu vaccine made on human kidney cells in Red China even though no human trials had been done or even animal testing on the vaccine. That has never been done before: giving a vaccine that has not gone through human trials to see if it is safe. Watch to see what happens to the Olympic athletes in the next month or so when the predicted bird flu from the vaccines develops. Such athletes should take Sambucol elderberry syrup, ten cc's (two teaspoonsful) four times daily until symptoms abate...unless they need to go to a hospital for respiratory support (respirator). Whenever the athletes develop bird flu will give the approximate time other people who are given the vaccine will have before developing symptoms. ALL pandemics of the last hundred years have been CAUSED by vaccinations. HIV outbreaks followed tetanus vaccines given to inner city homosexuals twenty years before, as well as smallpox vaccines given in third world countries. The 1918 Spanish Flu outbreak followed vaccinations given to American soldiers going to Europe who stopped in Spain for training where the 1918 Spanish flu which was a bird flu broke out six months after the vaccinations...and spread around the world.

If Muslims are only against Israelis or Zionists, how do you explain the sign being carried by a Muslim agitator at a demonstration in Ft. Lauderdale, telling JEWS (not Israelis) to go to the ovens? And how do you explain the physical attacks on JEWS (not Israelis) in places like France and Belgium? It's time to put aside the declarations of "Abrahamic monotheism" and recognize that Muslims are indeed anti-Semitic and are among the leading proponents of the Jew-hatred that's spreading across Europe today.

killed 70+ million of their own people, what's a hundred million Americans and all the world class athletes who went to the Olympics? That is how the Red Chinese think. Individuals do not matter.

THEY LOVE JEWS CHABAD IN GUAN ZHOU ARE FANTASTIC WITH A SHUL ,DAILY PRAYERS ,FOOD IF YOU NEED EVEN HAD MY SEPHARDIC SIDDUR IF I NEEDED IT. NO HIDING NO FEARS.SAFER FOR JEWS THEN ISRAEL. aint that a shame AND I TRAVEL TO 5 DIFFERENT PROVENCES. CHINESE LOVE JEWS

Obama knows the way out, clean Green energy - so the west does not have to relay on the Arab world. the only reason we are in a recetion now is because the arab world got greedy and wanted to make a quick buck. now we all suffering.

the Kibbuts - a communist way of life that works today. China's a big fan of Israel. China has many problems with Islam in the North. China loves to learn how to make money like the Jews (not Just money, medical, High Tech, Communications etc...) China and the Jews are one

Chinese people dont know were Israel is.When I was there 6 months ago. I told them were I was from they looked at me as if I was from another planet.

First Anti-zionism presumes a conscious political background, therefore some people all around the world may OBSERVE some facts about such zionist conspirarcies but as they do not have political background to interprete behinde the showroom they may just speake of jews instead of zionists. Certainly unconcious critics of zionist phenomena may result in antisemitism-an unfair, unhumane diversion of human politics. Jews cannot be blamed for each zionist action but almost impossible distiction due to overlapping character of racist deology and race, some may fail to distinguish between them, If Chinese author was a sincere muslim he would be antizionist however he is not. JEWS ARE ALSO VICTIM OF ZIONISM LIKE GERMANS WERE ALSO VICTIM OF NAZISIM.

because westerners are insensitive

plans against America (Canada, and Australia were added in a speech by a high ranking Chinese military official in 2006). First, the World Trade Center towers would be attacked by Muslim (Saudi) pilots, trained by the Red Chinese. Second, computer systems would be disrupted by the Chinese to create havoc. Third, the banking system would be collapsed to create more havoc. Fourth, nuclear war. But tainting bird flu vaccines was such a brilliant idea since hundreds millions of people would die without contaminating the land before invasion. With thirty million illegals in America (40 per cent OTM's or Other Than Mexicans) working in restaurants and hospitals and every walk of life, infecting people will be a breeze even without vaccines. I was infected with bird flu at a church (St. Peter's in Lemoore, California) and so were other people, many of whom died suddenly after being well who took the eucharist wafer there that was dipped in what tasted like benzene and burned the tongue and caused pain in the liver and kidneys before the flu that was resistant to immune boosters (bird flu) took hold. If I had gone to a hospital like others did, I would have died since hospitals do not use the known antidote: Sambucol elderberry syrup. I tried a lot of things and found Pepto Bismol at the maximum dose of 12 tablets daily for three days, stopped the almost unstoppable flu. The police did not care because they have been trained to be happy when people die and the population reduces. Not one murder at that church was investigated. But I learned what Catholicism and Christianity were all about: phony corruption of the real religion of Yahshua, the Messiah. When the bird flu from vaccines gets going, bodies will be stacked high in the streets with mass burials the only answer for disposing of them at some point.

judea, and need to be together. arabs are also a race, and are also a nation, and they have the rest of the middle east to be together. palestinians are not a nation, they are not a race, and never had autonomy. your ottoman empire treated them like tennants that they were, asking them to pay tax to ottomans and to be drafted to your ottoman army, that's why hardly any of the land was registered under arab ownership in 1858 tabu, cause arabs in palestine were trying to avoid these payments, even though they were on the land. they got away with it for many reasons, not just because of nomadic bedouins, but also cause ottoman didn't even know where palestine begins and where it ends, there were counties, such as ramla county, and even galilee belonged to syria area. the area known as palestine was a small area in a big empire, a passage from egypt to asia. it was the british that drew the maps of palestine and made borders, then created jordan for the arabs of palestine, when originaly even jordan was designated for jews. it is sad jews only started fulfilling their aspirations to unite as the nation that they were for 1500 years, only 130 years ago. zionizm means, to live together as a nation in the land of their forefathers, in the cities their forefathers built, that stand to this day. even though ottomans have conquered those cities, and arabs lived in them, jews built them, and they are mentioned in the bible: jerusalem, hebron where abraham rachel and our fathers r burried, jaffa, zafed, haifa, and many more. . maybe because your ottoman laws were very restricting for jews, and arabs slaughtered jews at times, that's why jews didn't prosper in this area. germans already lived in a country when nazi movement started, you can not compare zionizm with nazism. of course you have nothing against the jewish religion, you could slaughter jews and no-one would raise an eye brow during your ottoman rule. now that jews are united and have a country they are a tougher nut to crack, and you have to listen to what they want too.

I said Herod was. The wise men hailed from modern day Kashan Iran. Yohanan Ben Zakkai (Z"L) faked his death and miraculous return to life to influence Titus. Romans like their Greek predecessors were obsessed with overcoming the inevitability of death. Your Jesus was a Persian military conscript whose family moved to the province by way of Gamla he like so many others served in the Roman Military he pioneered the "fad of the day" with a attempted syncretism of traditional Mediterranean/Hellenistic polytheism with the orah of the Yehudim. Even the revised and redacted editorials of Josephus indicated this. Josephus listed a litany of Jewish nationalist that made messianic claims and each one with the exception of the Persian soldier was ridiculed. Now I realize this suspect interpretation is good enough for your supersessionist scholars and academics. I also know that there in Canada you have probably never encountered an uppity Jew such as me and I am not unsympathetic to you. All I can state categorically is Christianity and Islam are part of the greater community of Israel and both contain scripture of the Holy Torah but, I will also say that I do not accept either sequels as accurate or necessary. I am sorry if that sentiment is hurtful to you or any others and the Holy Talmud does record clearly the benevolence and kindness of the Gentiles so of course I encourage and am thankful for your charitable donations but, if you or anyone else expects a timid passivity from me on the truth of Torah well I am afraid I will disappoint every time. Shalom Chaver K"H

The term 'anti-Semitic' was invented in Germany in the 19th as a scientific way of saying "Jew-hatred". Everyone understands that this has nothing to do with Arabs, only Jews, as Arabs have been at the forefront of Jew-hatred. Besides, Semitic only applies to languages (like 'Indo-European'). It has nothing to do with race, nationality, or ethnicity. As for the true kinsmen of the Arabs, all I can say is when look at today'sTurks and Iranians, they and the Arabs are truly birds of a feather.

....Ares. They only hate Zionists, not Jews. That's why they march in Ft. Lauderdale and Chicago and Berkeley , carrying signs 'JEWS to the gas". Not 'Zionists'. JEWS. That's why Jews are stabbed on buses in London and Paris and Holland, even pre-teens. (:rolleyes)

There is no reference to Zionism and the State of Israel in the Koran and Hadiths, but there are references to the Jews, and they are repeatedly accursed, considered descendents of monkeys and pigs, and they will ultimately be slaughtered by the Moslems. And, by the way, Islam does not claim it is descended from Judaism. No. It claims all the major figures of Judaism, including Abraham, as Islamic prophets, and accuses the Jews of corrupting their teachings and holy texts. And you know it. At least, Christianity does not deny that Abraham was a Hebrew, David and Jesus were Jews, and Christianity was initially a sect of Judaism.

and Pigs. Xitians do deny Hitler was Xitian they Deny/Obfuscate/ marginalize the protestant Martin Luther's treatise "Jews and their Lies". Try to disavow the events of the inquisition, the Juden Sow architecture on their holy sites, the modified crucifix symbol of the swastika, the persecutions of Richard the Lion Heart, Ferdinand and Isabella, Xitian Frenchman like Charles DeGoubineau , Xitian Americans like Henry Ford and Charles Lindbergh etc. etc. Oh man I get sick of this whole ludicrous debate the only thing there really is to debate is what invented what; Xitianity either invented Islam or Islam Invented Xitianity. Bottom Line both sequels are irrelevant and unnecessary.

Ok, I read the Edom thing too quickly, my apology on that. Apart from that, you are right that the Wise men (magi) were from Persia... the magi were a sect created by the prophet Daniel who were awaiting the Messiah... eventually zoroastrianism got interlaced in there later on, but that's another issue. As for Jesus being a Persian conscript. Hmmm. And you are telling ME to read books? Enough said on that one. And as for me meeting Jews, I was friends with the president of Hillel on York U. campus, have spent 5 months living in Israel (running to bunkers in the North during the 2nd Lebanon War), have friends in Tel Aviv, have visited Jewish Settlements in Yesha/Shomron, had anti-missionary orthodox friends living in Gush Etzion... the list goes on. So, don't compliment yourself too much, and don't assume anything about me being Canadian. As for the topic; antisemitism, comparing anti-semite catholic or orthodox groups with Christians like me is like comparing an orthodox settler rabbi in Beit El with a homosexual reform rabbi in San Francisco. Do not be prejudiced by grouping all Christians and Christianity as antisemitic.