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Navy chief apologizes for strip club visit
Hanan Greenberg
Published: 04.03.09, 08:43
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31. David , Karmiel, Israel
Airborne ,   Jerusalem   (03.04.09)
Twit! I like that. good one, seen as how you can't come up with a good argument as to why this is acceptable behavior of a superior officer. Indeed we do have many social problems in Israel as you said so why do you want to sweep this under the rug? This is not acceptable and this is not "Beseder". If we want to change society for the better then we need to hold people accountable for their actions and this is not something a professional superior officer should be doing. Accountability and responsibility go hand in hand. They are two different meanings. I suggest you look them up. To fix the big problems in society you have to start at the source, as well as the small problems. If this act is ok how do you think he can discipline junior soldiers? If he treats women this way then how would he treat a female soldier who filed a rape complaint? There is more to this than just "going to the strip club". Let's see if you have the intestinal fortitude to serve your country as I did.
32. In that case, if everyone followed
petra ,   uSA   (03.04.09)
this man, all of San Diego, Seattle, Los Angles, New York, every port city in America would shut down due to no naked women for lonely men far from home. I'm not expressing a religious comment, rather one of a reality. Who really cares about this trivia when there's a war going on?
33. #23
Airborne ,   Jerusalem   (03.04.09)
HE IS THE Navy Chief Major General! Not some private or joe or sailor. When was the last time you hear of Colin Powell, Tommy Franks, Mike Mullen getting into a bar fight or going to strip clubs? An E-3 yes but not a General! You obviously never wore a uniform. Geez!
34. # 3 lo thanx I needed that!
w ,   uSA   (03.04.09)
and not to mention 'spotted' pasts or "spotted reputations. Or a dog named 'spot'.
35. I liked the IDF 'mooning' the enemy.
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36. Conduct becoming
petra ,   uSA   (03.04.09)
Personally, I enjoyed the "mooning' the IDf gave their enemies. Hilarious, conduct becoming? Moon over Maimi? Gimme a break. Naked ladies don't offend me at all. Terrorists are the aim, not a girlie show.
37. # 5 Adam no embarrassment for the army
petra ,   uSA   (03.04.09)
unless they're gay. Aren't strip joints and bordellos in Israel? If the law is broken, shut them down. An army officer of this rank is a necessity. Why are naked ladies so attractive? Because, thank G-d there are still straight men. Any gay strip clubs? You folks know nothing of the rules of war. Always some shady ladies that follow the camps. A very old profession supported in part by armies.
38. To#20: Airbonr:OK, you want to get personal!
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (03.04.09)
Again you jump to conclusions! Yes, I have served in the military and your stupidity and ego illustrate that you are only capable of seeing a one sided sanctimonious view.! Stop jumping to conclusions and insulting people who do not agree with your bigoted view on life. No one is perfect in this world except you. You are the perfect idiot who has nothing better to do preach hatred, intolerance and narrow mindedness! Actually, you remind me of the Iranian Monkey Mahmoud Ahmadinejad!
39. I was dragged to a strip show once by my husband.
Rivkah   (03.04.09)
It was soooo sad. One of the most beautiful women I had ever seen who had obviously never stripped before because the manager had to threaten her to get her to take off more and more of her clothes until she was naked and totally embarrassed. She obviously had to get the money for something more important than herself. The manager muttered he was firing her. It made me think how dreadful life is for a lot of women who are thrown to the wolves instead of their family supporting them if they cannot make it alone. Brothers and fathers and sons should provide for the unmarried women in their family rather than to throw them to the wolves. But that is like asking for the moon. Males are so detestable in their failure before God to provide for their own. What young woman would have to strip in front of strangers for a living if her family was providing for her unless she was a pervert or drug addict?
40. Immediately
Donna ,   Israel   (03.04.09)
In some countries he would be asked to resign IMMEDIATELY!
41. AGAIN David , Karmiel, Israel
Airborne ,   Jerusalem   (03.04.09)
HA ha ha. Look at you! Again, you can't counter my arguments so you have to result to name calling and threats. I apologize if my bigoted view is to punish this officer for his actions. Obviously you didn't read my last post which I offered tips on how we can solve Israel's social ills in which you and I both live in. Unfortunately you wish to challenge me to a fight by calling me names (Twit and now Iranian Monkey Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) instead of an intellectual debate. I strongly suggest you step back from the keyboard, breathe and actually think before typing. I wish you all the best and pray for your soul because you have some serious issues.
42. Everyone should get off their podiums
Arie ,   BaGolan   (03.04.09)
He is human and the club is legal. He did NOT go in in uniform and did NOT go while on duty! He apologized and was duly reprimanded. I notice the individuals complaining and condemning here are the same ones that ALWAYS bypass olmert's illegal acts and livni's rather questionable relationship with qurei or vilnai's despicable condemnation of Negev residents or barak's open cowardice. Put things in perspective people. This should be a non-issue
43. Israel commander in chief
Elsa ,   Canada   (03.04.09)
to Chanalau Tova : your comment is despicable ! England is full of hypocrits and puritans but we all know they are No. 1 bastards !
44. Israel marine commander in chief
Elsa ,   Canada   (03.04.09)
Those hypocrits ! Was he wearing his commander in chief's uniform and casquette ? He at least did not swear (like Bill Clinton) : I did not have sex with that woman !!!! So what if he was in a strip club, in the US and everywhere else, there are numerous restaurants that have topless waitresses and nobody jumps to any conclusion...
45. #20:"Airborne" - Stop being ridiculous
Arie ,   BaGolan   (03.04.09)
As a veteran having led soldiers in to combat, I take exception to your comments. He did what he did on his own time and out of uniform. Visiting clubs in Israel is NOT illegal. A momentary lack of judgement? Perhaps. But he's apologized and been reprimanded. There are other MUCH MORE important issues on the table than this. This is nothing more than "politically correct" gone haywire. If kadima and labour showed as much consternation regarding the ongoing qassam attacks in the Negev, hamass would be dead and the Negev quiet. LET IT GO!
46. #45
Airborne ,   Jerusalem   (03.04.09)
How morally obtuse can you be and no I will not let it go. He is not a private. He is a leader of men AND women. A professional who is an officer and and a Gentlemen on duty 24 hours a day. Yes, officers are held to a higher standard that is why they are OFficers . HOw is he to lead women sailors and gain their trust if he treats women this way? What if a woman comes to him with a rape complaint? Was he reprimanded? Hardly. He got an ass chewing but that was it. Didn't even go in his record. Every issue is important. If you let the little ones go then they become big ones. Seems like you must have been dozing when the tought the course on Army values.
47. n 14
aline ,   ISRAEL   (03.05.09)
I agree with you. The whole thing is ridiculous....all this self righteousness!
48. Big Deal - he should be promoted!
Mongo ,   Paris   (03.06.09)
Compared to Katsav, this is nothing. He´s a navy officer for chrissake! Let him blow some steam off. Most critisism coming from homely women like Almog and Dotan. With attitudes like this, Israel will become a weak nation like Sweden & Denmark where the women crap on men all day long.
49. Rikvah re "I was dragged to a strip show once by my husband"
Kevin ,   Port Elizabeth   (03.06.09)
Your husband sounds like a nice guy. Did he enjoy the show?
50. Chanalau #4 re " Israel navy a despicable bunch of cowardly.
Mongo ,   Paris   (03.06.09)
Yes, and HAMAS (hiding amongst Mosques and Schools) are benelovent gentlemen who know how to treat women with respect? I now understand why Arabs abhor pigs. It reminds them of their own behaviou towards themselves too much. Hard to face the truth about your people huh Chanalau or whatever you call your self...
51. Does anyone have a quarter?
Ypip ,   Canada   (03.07.09)
I want to go for a horsey ride with the chicken lady.
52. Look at Dotan & Almog
Michel SLONIMSKI ,   Paris, France   (03.08.09)
With all due respect to women who fought for their countries - look at Dotan and Almog, and forgive poor Marom for visiting a strip club. By the way, I am not aware of any French admiral being blamed for visiting the Crazy Horse Saloon in Paris.
53. THE NAVY TRADITION
Eliot Vernet ,   Montreal, Quebec   (03.08.09)
Would you prefer Admiral Marom to stay true to the Navy tradition and be more interested in boys than girls ? Stop that nonsense, will you, you hypocrites.
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