there is white fasulia and green fasulia it is green like this land and white like the hearts of the origenal residents iam one of them but i think you are not belong to green and white but to black and red hahaha my friend iam joking but believe me i love this land more than you simply becouse i was born here and i still live on it

Wrong, idiot. I am both an Israeli citizen and a United States citizen. I live in Israel six months out of the year. I served in the IDF, and I am extremely proud of that service. No valley girl I, I assure you. Got anything else you'd like to say to me, punk? Yeah. That's what I thought, cyberpunk.

you do not know about arab or moslem woman nor about men i want to tell you some saying about the women i heared it from my grandmother and i think it is right to evry woman here at least ( if it is easy for the woman to be raped in the first time it would be easy for several times ) and so believe me i know about some woman were died befor letting the man any man to raped them . this is about women but about men it is always in secret and they afraid from god as it is forbidden in our religion and they afraid from the sociaty it is not allowed and the one will be out of the family and evry thing to be done in secret will be less than to be done in street . no one like this and be hurted it is not like in usa as i was heard or may be wrong but sure your openion about the arab moslem men and woman is wrong

"Green like this land," you say? Whoa there. The land was desert or swamp until the Jews came and made it fertile. Please keep that in mind. Do not fall victim to your Palestinian Arab tendencies to turn rhetoric and fervent wishes into truth. Green. Yes. Why? Jews. Don't forget that, Sara.

"I worked for an NGO in Ramallah." Say no more. That explains your half-assed suppositions about who committed this crime.

if arabs were behind it and they did use her, i feel bad for their wives. a lot of these sort of stories come up where the SOB male go and do their thing and come back and infect their wives with AIDS and other diseases.

words right out of my mouth.. The WILDMAN always keeps it REAL

Sarah how do you know it was Palestinians that took her? Were you there? Do you work the same shift as this poor unfortunate Girl? For all we know, she could have been raped by your ex President Kastav or by your Navy Chief Commander who is a 'frequent flier' at strip clubs. You mentioned previously that you are a highly succesful attorney, so unless you have sild proof it were Palestinians that did it, I suggest you shut up.

Norman Finkilstein is a Jewish American professor who is anti Israeli war crimes and a strong defender of Palesinian rights. George Galloway is a British Christian member of parlianment and a strong defender oF Palestinian rights. Jimmy Carter, the ex U.S president is also a strong advocate of Palestinian rights and so is Hugo Chavez and many many others. Ever increasing numbers of people in the west are seeing Israel for what it is, and Sarah cant accept the fact that a non Muslim could be defending the rights of the Palestinians.

Idiot -- go check the other Israeli news accounts. The victim SAID they were Arab. That's how I know. Besides -- Jews from Israel, or even the West Bank, do not travel to Ramallah. For one thing, they are not permitted to do so. For another thing, it is dangerous. There are checkpoints and they would have been stopped. Only Israeli Arabs are permitted to cross freely. This poor unfortunate victim was beaten, raped and sodomized by Arabs. How do I know? I don't. But SHE does and that is WHAT SHE SAID. You fool.

Here is what I do know about Moslem men and women. In some Islamic countries, women may not go out -- even to the market -- unless they are accompanied by a male relative. They are required to wear heavy robes and be veiled and hooded, even in some of the hottest climates on the planet. They are forced to endure the iniquity of their husband taking a second, third and fourth wife. They are forbidden to speak unless spoken to. They are routinely cuffed, slapped and even beaten. In some (though not all) societies, they are not allowed to be educated, or even to be literate. They are property. I know that women can easily be divorced, although the reverse is not true. I know that a divorced woman is tantamount to being a dead woman, because her family will not take her back and she has no place to go. She is reduced to living on the street and begging. I know that in certain Islamic societies, a woman is the property of her father until she marries, then she becomes the property of her husband and if she is widowed, she then becomes the property of her son. Frankly, dear -- I would rather be a stray dog than a woman in Islamic society. I know that women do not choose their own husbands. They are frequently forced to marry their cousins (and you wonder why there are so many genetically defective children in Islamic societies?). I know that eighteen year old women are often forced to marry seventy year old men. I know that their refusal might result in their death (so-called "honor" killings, although I fail to see anything honorable about it, although perhaps that is just me). I know that a woman has no right to deny her husband sexual access. I consider that rape, whatever you or your grandmother may call it. I know that death in childbirth is higher in Moslem countries than anywhere else in the world. A combination of no women doctors and rules forbidding a male doctor to touch a woman has been lethal throughout the Moslem world. Oh .... almost forgot this: I know that some Moslem women (Mrs. Rantizzi comes to mind) preach to other women that it is their duty and obligation to raise their children to become shaheed. I know that Moslem children are routinely sold to terrorist organizations to be suicide bombers. I know that children are allowed to play in the streets and on the rooftops of buildings in Gaza, even when ample advance notice and warning has been given that it is an area that will come under bombardment. I gather than dead children are a great photo op and -- I guess Moslem women think -- you can always make more. They certainly do, too, I might add. I know that the Saudis routinely have telethons to raise money to pay families to give up their children to be suicide bombers. I know there is no shortage of takers. In short, Sara, what I know about Moslem societies and the role of women in those societies sickens me. I'm not interested in learning any more. I just thank G-d every day that he saw fit to make me born a Jew.

Could we use the term Exotic Dancer? Thank you for the consideration. Peace Out!!

At least you have acknowledged it could have been anyone who commited this crime. The "odds" not better that it was a Jewish settler rather than an Arab Israeli or an Arab from Ramallah. BTW, the Arabs who make up 20% of the Israeli population have 13 Arab representatives in the Knesset. How many Jews serve in the parliaments of Arab states? Could they serve at all?

We all know how credible they are.

don't you have a little pity for anyone ?

Hey Sarah, use your brains for once in your life. You claim to be an attorney. As drunk and loaded as that Girl was on that fateful night, I would not be surprised if she had accused Jesus Christ of raping her! There are settlers in the area, not only Arabs, and they would do anything to blame Arabs in order to justify stealing more Arab lands to form some sort of a security zone.

I have sent you a reply to your talkback but Ynet chose not to release it, very well it's their own choice..you call me an idiot and a punk...just shows how much of a mature person you are, you seem to me like someone who acts like a clown infront of people, someone who doesn't know how to defend herself except by throwing profanities at others. i bet you miss the 'boys' in the IDF don't you? too bad i can't elaborate on that or else it will be another censor from Ynet. go get yourself a boyfriend, if you have one i bet he's gay!

Is that the best you can come up with? If that's the case, to "punk" and "idiot," please add "witless."

You have a strange way of looking at mature relationships .time to grow up or get a shrink ......

Hey Sarah i never meant to make you lafe or anything to call me witless i was just stating facts...you only seem to know how to throw profanity at others, thats how you cover your weekness... Rachel, what do you mean outdone by a girl? are you serious? i'm not the one who needs a shrink here girl...Sarah has serious issues with her kind of responses, go read them.

"lafe?" "thats" "weekness?" To idiot, punk and witless, please now add "functionally illiterate." In addition, I suggest you look up the meaning of the word "profanity." I do not use profane language and, were I to do so, it would surely not pass the Ynet censors.

Sarah now i understand where all this is coming from i shall not respond to your name calling anymore..however, you know that there happens to be typing errors while sending talkbacks so please next time concentrate on the issue we are debating rather than silly mistakes that you have made previously yourself....calling me functionally illiterate is not gonna do you any good, i'm an american just like you, so there's no point there! Rachel, so you rest your case huh? at least Sarah gives it a shot to prove a point, and what are you trying to do? your responses so far have been so lame they are not even worth responding to...you seem to be short on vocabulary or need some help with self-expression!

Marco, you're an idiot and a misogynist. Rape is defined as an act of sexual aggression to which the victim does not consent, either by way of forcible violence or being mentally incapacitated due to any number of reasons (including but not limited to intoxication or mental disability). Her being a stripper does not mean she gives up her right to consent. No occupation means a person relinquishes their right to consent or refuse consent to sex, not even prostitution. Her very humanity stands as a testament to that right. She is a human being, ergo, she has a right not to have her body violated.

The perpetrators where obviously the IDF. There is no way a palestinian or an Isrealy Jew or Arab for that matter could have made it through the checkpoint with a drugged stripper who didn't have any papers on her. The only way it could have happened was with the cooperation of the guards, which means it was insiders. Dropping her off in Ramallah was a desperate attempt to cover up and avoid a scandal. It obviously worked.

Sarah's posts are definitely not profane. They are extremely articulate and factual. You just disagree with her view point. I must say in this battle you are totally losing to Sarah. Just admit it. She is smarter than you. Way smarter. You just cannot compete.