Look, if the Pals said Israel shot a rocket at the moon, the EU, UN and Obama would scream condemnations at Israel for the militarization of space. The Hague would charge Israel with war crimes and crime against humanity for attacking the man in the moon. No investigation, no proof necessary. Just Pal accusations will suffice.

it is clear to me as a non jew or a non israeli, that the israeli soldiers did not intentionally kill these people. these people misunderstood orders given in lame arabic which innitially the soldiers did try to protect and evacuate them. the possible failed communication between soldiers in other places protecting the red line and soldiers that indeed evacuatede the palestinian residents were broken down in the heat of battle. no one can have exact communications between platoons in the heat of battle abd mistakes do happen in war that cause lost lives. the truth is that aLL THESE JEWISH SOLDIERS HAD no intent to kill palestinians at all. it was a misunderstanding, a mistake, a confusion in battle. but the intent to kill was NOT THERE TO BEGIN WITH. IT IS INTENT THAT SUED BE PROSECUTED AND AS ONE CAN SEE, THERE WAS CNO INTENT TO KILL THE INNOCENT. yes, they were fired upon because of confusion, them not understanding the orders given in broken arabic by the soldiers and turning the other way where other soldiers were given innitial commands and orders to shoot people going in the wrong direction. how many times in wars arround the world mistakes like these that cost human lives were performed because of war confusion. do not think that israeli soldiers sit there when they can loose their lives to sniper hamas fire and expose themselves so that they can help the innocents caught in battle. heck, hamas leadership was no way near the battle field. they left their constituents to face it alone and those terrorists who indeed fought mostly used human sheilds...their own people, bodies, houses, moms., kids, men to protect them and often incubated them and locked the key in homes they booby traped to kill one israeli soldiers, knowing that if he opens the door, the who palestinian family will be blasted inside. did they care? no! and it is their own people. as to writing grafiti, please give me a break. have you seen what government newspapers in islamic nations write about jews and israel???? grafiti doesn't kill and writing stupid words in anger is not an intent to kill or to maim. people do a lot of stupid things when they are put in situations that are dangerous. so, this immature writing of grafiti doesn't even come close to hamas intentionally firing 8,000 missiles to indeed maim, kill, annihilate entire jewish populations in israel and indeed destroy their homes. what do these complaining palestinians think, that sending 8,000 missiles to israel to kill innocent civilians is n ot INTENT TO KILL AND MURDER AND DESTROY ISRAELIS AND JEWS???? OR IS IT ONLY MURDER AND DESTRUCTION WHEN IT COMES TO THEM WHEN ISRAEL RETALIATES? GIVE ME A BREAK, PALESTINIANS!!!! hanzel bjork netherlands

do you like mexicans sending 8,000 rockets to kill and maim your family over 6 years with the very intent to annihilate you and your neighbors and send death your way????? grafiti doesn't hurt and is not a killer. missiles are a worse grafiti!!!!

wouldn't you also find hamas terrorists shooting 8,000 missiles over 6 years, killing innocent babies, men, women, elderly and children and infants also CRIMINAL, DISGUSTING AND SHAMEFUL TO HUMANITY?????? 1,200 ISRAELIS WERE KILLED BY MISSILES, TERRORISTS SUICIDE BOMBERS, ETC... IN ISRAEL. INNOCENT PEOPLE!!!!!!! NOT IN UNIFORMS!!!!! IS THAT NOT SHAMEFUL AND CRIMINAL?????? WHAT EXCUSES DO THESE TERRORISTS HAVE TO DO THAT?????

during the 73 war, israeli soldiers captured by the egyptian and syrian armies were found later by israeli rescue units after the war lying dead with their penises cut off and stuffed in their mouths. gives you a clear idea what these animals do to captured soldiers and jews.

if israel is not a sovereign state according to your moronic uninformed and totally idiotic statement, how come it is one of the nations belonging to the un? how come israel is recognized by the world and the un as a sovereign nation? how come it is recognized by nato and all nations of the world as a sovereign nation??? just because you hate it doesn't mean it is not a sovereign nation. get real!

the usa and canada is also not a sovereign nation according to your estimation. were not these lands grabbed by the white man from its original inhabitants which were the indians??? was germany not a sovereign nation when it annexed most of europe into its empire during ww2? is china not a sovereign nation despite its land grab from tibetans which indeed deserve their tibet with all its borders from the chinese?

when in war , act in war...no nation in the world has the moral advocacy to preach to israel how to defend itself against the barbaric, fanatic arab onslaught that has been on for 100+ years.... now, PALIWOOD--- learn how to spell in hebrew first and corraborate your scripted stories before you release your "" movies""!

All bets are off and Israel must wipe them out get as much land as possible which they can easily do and then you and your friends can sit down and negotiate. Is this what you are refering to? I think not. What your saying really is its ok for them to fire rockets but not for Israel to Hit back, I got news for you my American freind, We are not asking we dont care what you think, we will do exactly what we as a nation think is right for us to do, I strongly sugest you fix your own house before trying to fix others.

right about your one case, sitting bull

One of the biggest land grab was the US after they started moving west from the 13 colonies, murdering, raping and destroying the indigenous populations. No discussions, no peace deals that weren't broken. Only contempt and racism. Its a close 2nd to the arab conquests even to the present day..invade kill subdue humiliate and when people fought back exterminate them. Your comments are putrid, hateful and moronic. Try reading some real history. Oh, sorry, I forgot words with more than one syllable are hard for you to understand!

have nothing whatsoever to do with the human race! Your talk backs show that your level is even lower than that of animals!

What's the matter Marco? You had to write "you people" You mean "you Jews", don't you? The Spanish empire is gone, booh f 'in hoo! and the Muslims have almost reconquered Spain. Good work! The time for Jews to sit back and take it in the ass from goyim like you is over, peckerhead! Get used to it! Were not going to be tortured and killed by Grand Inquisitors, nor quietly led to the gas chambers by your Nazi friends (No doubt you mourned Franco's death!) Now "you people" think you can accuse us of anything that pops into your fetid brains and feed the flames of genocide. Been there seen that! You're a loser old boy and you're on the side of a great evil.

This is all recycled lies.

the same as using flafel oil for running cars. who takes care of the rest of the kids?

the UN. It's the US not the UN who is the sole player.

soudern border, your treathment of the refugees from africa this level is much lower. spain is full of cortez like you

Haaretz has its own staff of Israel haters (Haas, Levy, and others). Ynet, apparently, relies on others - Associated Press, al' Reuters, AFP - for their blood libels. I use that term deliberately, because lives will be lost over them. The easiest thing in the world is to get Arab "witnesses" to back up any made up story about Israeli perfidy. Time after time, they're shown to be liars. Mystery weapons, mass graves, missile attacks on ambulances that somehow leave them intact, we've heard them all. Why no mention at all that the initial "reports" that started this feeding frenzy have already been discredited? Once upon a time, real journalists investigated a story and confirmed its veracity before going to press. Today, they can't be bothered.

Land grab? LAND GRAB?!?!? What about this being the home of the Jewish people before the Romans made the land grab? How about the fact that, in the early 1900's Arabs and Jews were trying to make peace and extremists Muslims messed it up? How about the U.N. vote for this nation to be legitimate? The countless world leaders who have recognized it as a sovereign state? #42 - the attitude you see here is that of a people who's small country is constantly under attack by terrorists and other countries, whose legitimacy is questioned by idiots, at the center of international bigotry their humanity is questioned, and all they want to do is live in peace and have the land of our forefathers. Nothing more than from the Jordan river to the Mediterranean. These are the children and grand children of holocaust survivors, who saw what antisemitism and the fear of a "Zionist plot" can turn into, and this state is the last defense from that happening. So yeah, they'll have attitude. you call them animals? Have you seen what their enemies do to their own people and to Israelis?

#6 graffiti wasn't done in good taste, no one thinks otherwise, but considering the person who lives in the house might be the same one who was shooting at the soldiers from the rooftop, or from the steet, anyone would expect an offensive remark, such as a curse, and not pictures that show poor stress management on behalf of the 18 year old soldier. #42 say thanks you weren't drafted to the army for 3 years against your will or nature at 18. only when you can put yurself in a situation of a grown teenager that has to defend his country and might get killed at any given second, you can make comments.

this is not about the palestinians. it is about an army that is undisciplined, and poorly behaved, and motivated by anger to others rather than the pure concept of defending their homes, and that is a concern for future military encounters against bigger foes than little gazan terrorists. this lack of discipline also reflects the lack of discipline at the political level, in which wars are fought without defined goals. had the political level defined a goal of ending rocket fire and preventing resupply (which is doable) instead of just a furious barrage of force to 'teach a lesson', the soldiers on the ground might have been more disciplined.

I dont blame the18 year olds, I blame the Generals for not teaching those young kids about discipline and morality.

Imagine if they gave the Palestinians their full rights..... None of this tit for tat.....

as i said before, wierd they only remember about it AFTER Ha'aretz reports the apparent soldiers's "testimony"

Hey, it just wouldn't be a ynet talkback without Marco putting in his 2 cents worth of ignorance.

Actually Cousin Steve, they could have them anytime they wanted. But that don't include the right to genocide. They had a great opportunity when Israel left Gaza. If they had behaved responsibly, built infrastructure, farms, businesses, the situation would have been great. Instead they destroyed everything , used the billions to buy arms, bombs and rockets and declared a holy war against the Jews, one that included their annihilation. That kind of sick society (common in the Muslim world) doesn't deserve any rights. Maybe they can move to Alaska and you can deal with them. And I'll bet your behaviour would make the Jews look like saints!