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6 arrested for promoting draft-dodging
Avi Cohen
Published: 26.04.09, 19:42
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1. it's not 'dodging' it's consciencious REFUSAL
d. wallach ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (04.26.09)
2. Good news
(04.26.09)
3. Try them for treason or aiding the enemy
jason white ,   afula,israel   (04.26.09)
We need thye death penalty here. This has to stop. Either everyone goes into the I.D.F. or no one. No excuses on political or religious grounds.
4. If people want to dodge the draft...
Aaron ,   SF, USA   (04.26.09)
....then just leave. No need to try and spread influences towards doing so while benefiting daily from the IDFs protection and the states benefits. Likewise, a draft does not go against democracy. If Israel voted right now on upholding the draft you better believe there'd be a majority vote in favor of keeping it. Stop being wussies.
5. real democracy let inciting pilots & infantrymen walk away
(04.26.09)
with their criminal talk about IDF immorality in Gaza. but those bore elderly; they are non- (-counter) productive.
6. does this dodging taste better than that of
observer   (04.26.09)
Bar Refaeli; the Beautiful Israeli Draft-Dodging?
7. OK, let's say these people succeed and they create ...
leo ,   USA   (04.26.09)
national movement and Israelis do not serve in IDF anymore and IDF seizes to exist, then what?
8. So who is going to defend you?
m   (04.26.09)
When the rockets arive to Ramat Ha Sharon and there is no army to defend Israel what do these stupid people think is going to happen? Is there something wrong with the water there that induces self destruction?
9. Maybe they wouldn't want the IDF to protect them when the
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (04.26.09)
terrorists attack, just make their homes computer free and mark their addresses as no response needed for emergency calls.
10. Worth Defending?
shrinkDave ,   miami usa   (04.26.09)
It's fair to say, I think, that according to the theory of evolution, a person that doesn't feel the need to defend his/her family is at risk of becoming extinct, hopefully, very soon.
11. Who wants to fight for Barak who deliberately loses wars?
Fema   (04.26.09)
Who wants to fight for losers, deliberate losers, like Barak, Olmert and the Tsipicunt?
12. For as long as the draft remains a legal obligation,
Roman ,   Lod, Israel   (04.26.09)
encouraging and helping others to dodge it is little more than being an accessory to a crime, in conspiracy whose purpose is to commit a crime, and being guilty of incitement to commit a crime. If you do not a approve of the draft, then then work within the legal framework of the state's laws and regulations to have it abolished. If you feel that that individuals within the military are morally or legally outside the boundaries of these very laws and regulations, then work within them to prove it and have them prosecuted in a legal court of law. This is called basic rule of law, and encouraging others to break it destroys the very framework of society that these so-called social activists (New Profile, the 70 year-old granny, and the actively criminal Target 21) claim to seek to improve and change for the better. Grow up! You're not "revolutionaries" fighting against "the system", you're children (in mind, at least, if not in body), rebels without a cause. You destroy that which you so actively claim to seek, and are blind to this.
13. draft dodgings illegal!
lEA ,   soca,usa   (04.26.09)
Those who promate it should be jailed or let them live in an Arabic country under sharia rule.. If not for our brave men & women protecting the rights of ALL Israelis there'd be another Shoa! Never Again.
14. Bar Rafaeli didn't actively encourage others....
Lucy   (04.26.09)
to go to the army. I absolutely don't agree with what she did, but those who do promote draft dodging should be absolutely stopped.
15. #1 Got your definitions wrong
David Olesker ,   Jerusalem Israel   (04.26.09)
Conscientious objectors (i.e. those opposed to war on principle) are accommodated by the IDF, after demonstrating that they are real pacifists and not simply opposed to specific types of military actions. The US Supreme Court ruled that "The exemption for those who oppose "participation in war in any form" applies to those who oppose participating in all war and not to those who object to participation in a particular war only." In general, conscientious objectors do not try to avoid military service, they refuse it, often in full awareness of the punishment for doing so. Some accept alternative, non-combatant roles (e.g. medics) and many have risked and lost their lives in war time.
16. funny
(04.27.09)
Funny how the people who support Leftists and Arab draft-dodging condemm the Haredi draft dodgers.
17. so much for the so called " democracy "
sami ,   son of palestine   (04.27.09)
and its phantom freedoms
18. Draft dodging
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (04.27.09)
Those traitors,do they have a counter part in the Arab countries ?
19. What do you say to this
nr ,   los angeles, usa   (04.27.09)
Charles and Tahila? Given this one a miss because the religious don't figure in, right? What hypocrites. Crying about being set up, and never saying anything about Amona. Lefties the world over are a piece of work.
20. Choices...
Roy ,   USA   (04.27.09)
Military service has always been a mandatory requirement for Israeli citizens, due to the immense danger posed by Israel's "Rght to Exist" issues with Arabs and other Islamists. Those unwilling to serve should be given two choices: change their minds, or pack their belongings and move to another country where military service is not mandatory!
21. of course she don't care the future is behinde her.
ghostq   (04.27.09)
70 year old hag.
22. Conscientious objection is justifiable
Paul Dorman ,   Wellington, New Zeal   (04.27.09)
If people believe that the actions of the state are immoral or unethical, they have a fundamental human right to refuse to participate, as well as to win others over to their cause.
23. 19 . Amona was Ok . Draft dogers are'nt
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (04.27.09)
And what have NON Israelis to say about it . They can tell what they want , they are'nt risking their lives , can only criticise . Israeli "lefties" are giving their life for this country , US Jewish rigthists not .
24. Sounds like dawn of a military regime
Avi ,   Israel   (04.27.09)
25. "conscientious" OR fearful OR self interest
moshe ,   Tivin, Isarel   (04.27.09)
Not EVERY thought fulfills the concept of "conscientious objection " ! Hide behind the "conscientious" objection" ..... even though FEAR, self-interest, political differences, steer the weak to oppose Israeli governemnt decision to go war? We are ALL fearful , who wants to be injured or even dead because they served ? I call "self-interest" PIGGISHNESS These pigs may be beautiful models, or those that wish to prosper, while others defend them. I agree that those violently politically opposed, should VOLUNTEER their time to help the injured Israelis, even INNOCENT injured on the "enemy" side !
26. Draft Dodging is a disgrace! But ther is another issue here
David ,   Karmiel, Israel   (04.27.09)
Those who dodge the draft without a very valid medical or other reason should be shunned, prosecuted and definitely not be made in idols on our TV Shows! However, there is the issue of Freedom of Speech and I trust that the police obtained a search warrant before getting the IP's of these people. If not, then we are all open to an invasion of our privacy and and issue like this is not one of National Security. Further, these people are being prosecuted but certain left wingers, Members of the Knesset and others, and supporters of those who murder and kill our children were allowed to get away with acts of blatant sedition and even treason during the 2nd Lebanon War and the recent action in Gaza! It should made quite clear to those who accuse Israel of "militarization" that the only reason for this is the wish by the Arab and Muslim world to destroy our country and wipe out the Jewish people which would INCLUDE those who dodge the draft, condemn and spit on our soldiers like a certain winner of the Kohav Nolad (A Star is Born)completion on Israel TV2! As for those who hide behind the "Conscientious Objector" excuse, well there is no reason that they cannot volunteer for hospital, traffic police, social work or similar duty and serve their country. No loyalty, no citizenship!
27. secular Israeli cannot be consciencious REFUSnic
racha ,   arad   (04.27.09)
secular Israeli cannot be consciencious REFUSnic - its is a privilage of the orthodox Jews only, We have to fit to protect this orthodox Jes,
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