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Magen David: From mystical talisman to Zionist symbol
Moshe Ronen
Published: 03.05.09, 14:21
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31. To #29. Hexagram Becomes Spiritualised.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.05.09)
You say :”.. a very old pagan symbol.” When each Hebrew letter of the Name of God (i.e. YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord) is placed in each of the six triangles of the Hexagram -- the Hexagram becomes sanctified, the Hexagram becomes spiritualised, the Hexagram becomes VERY powerful. So #29, to call the spiritualised Hexagram a pagan symbol is a sign that you don’t know what you are talking about. BTW without the Hebrew letters of the holy Name of YAHWEH (the Supreme Lord) on the Hexagram -- the Hexagram is of NO importance.
32. Star of David no pentagram
Dorothea Killus ,   Germany   (05.05.09)
How can it be that in this article the pentagram ist mixed up with the hexagram?! There is indeed a difference between the two. Very meaningful is Franz Rosenzweig's interpretation of the Hexagram, in "Stern der Erlösung". It is so beautiful and meaningful, the true Star of David, - even the flower which is named after it!
33. Menorah Is Symbol of Jews, Historically-Light UntoThNations
Eduardo G. ,   Rio deJaneiro,Brasil   (05.05.09)
The Menorah is the symbol of WE Jewish people for THOUSANDS OF YEARS. WE ARE THE LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS - TO BRING HUMANITY, SCIENCE, MEDICINE, LOVE & GOOD TECHNOLOGY TO THIS EARTH, FROM G-D HIMSELF! THAT STAR IS NOT FROM G-D -- IT IS A VERY DARK SYMBOL. REMOVE THAT STAR FROM OUR FLAG AND REPLACE IT WITH THE MENORAH (OUR TRUE SYMBOL) AND THE HATRED OF ISRAEL/(JEWS) WILL STOP. THAT STAR HAS BROUGHT US ONLY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION! THAT STAR IS EVIL! IT IS A SATANIC STAR! IT BRINGS US ONLY DEATH AND DESTRUCTION ETERNALLY. YOU WILL SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO US WHEN IT IS REMOVED! PEACE AND LOVE WILL FLOURISH IN ISRAEL AND ALL IT'S NEIGHBORS WILL LOVE ISRAEL. THINK ABOUT IT! CHOOSE TO BE THE LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS ONCE AGAIN. I BEG OF YOU, PLEASE!!!
34. The six point Star of Remphran has been a symbol of Judaism
Rivkah   (05.05.09)
for thousands of years. Even Rabbi Yeshua referred to it as a symbol of Judaism nearly two thousand years ago. Even then, it was an established symbol of the Jews and symbolized their pride.
35. # 33 Amen! (Devariem 4:15-20/Sjemot 19:5)
Jan ,   The Netherlands   (05.05.09)
36. Prof. Scholem IS NOT one of the greatest Jewish scholars
elianna ,   Jerusalem   (05.05.09)
If you knew anything you would know that he is far from one of the greatest Jewish of our time. Poor research.
37. This symbol is all about what YOU think about it.
Ken Quinn ,   Amsterdam   (05.05.09)
I did my research by praying about this issue and asking G_d to reveal to me the origin of the Magen David. This is what I got for an answer about six months after I prayed. As I was walking in the City of David on the Shabbat that falls during the Feast of Succot, I had to give way to the branches of a large tree that extended over a stone wall. On the branches of the tree were red fruits about the size of an apple. As I inspected the fruit I experienced one of those "stunned" moments in life when you really "see" something clearly. As I lifted the fruit up to me eye, there about 30 centimeters from my face was a perfect Magen David created by the sepals of the Rimon, the Pomegranate. The Magen David, the Shield of David, the Star of David is a design taken from one of the seven species that make the Land of Israel a Good Land. It is a G_d created design. In my work as a gardner in Israel for some years, I can testify that this perfect design is typical of the most typical variety of Pomegranate. The arrangement of the sepals of the fruit can exhibit other numbers of "star points." But again, my investigation shows that the most typical is the six point followed by the five point configuration, the five point star. So the Magen David is a naturally occurring design. We know that Satan is no creator of anything, he can only corrupt the good things of G_d. So you will have to realize that what this design means to YOU is really more revealing ABOUT YOU than the design itself.
38. To Eduardo #33. NO Need To Remove The Star.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.05.09)
You say :” Remove That Star From Our Flag And Replace It With The MENORAH.” There is NO need to remove the Star from the Israeli flag. What should be done is to place each one of the Hebrew letter of the Name of God (i.e. YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord) in each one of the six triangles of the Star of David. In that way the Star of David will become sanctified, spiritualised -- and thus become a VERY powerful symbol. WHY supremely powerful ? Because the Holy Name of YAHWEH is now on the Star of David. BTW when the Holy Name of YAHWEH is placed on an object -- that object (in this case the Star of David) can NOT be “a dark symbol”.
39. maasingh, you are out of your mind
Netanel ,   FL, USA   (05.05.09)
1. If the name you are spelling out WAS the Divine Name you would be an utter fool to keep spelling. 2. You can't put the Divine Four Letter Name on a flag. Israeli flags are burned and destroyed all the time, and you are high if you think any self respecting Jew would put the Divine Four Letter Name on anything that is so readily available to be destroyed. Your comments lead me to believe you are in fact a Christian parading as a Jew. It is always funny when you guys think you are being clever and "blending in" when in fact your ilk stick out like a sore thumb.
40. To Netanel #39. Israeli Flag Will Be Respected.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.05.09)
You say :” Israeli flags are burned and destroyed all the time,” Dear Netanel, by placing the Holy Name of YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord, on the Star of David -- the Israeli Flag will be respected by ANYONE (even Muslims) throughout the world. And IF a Muslim will dare to put his foot on that Israeli Flag -- that Muslim will lose his Muslim identity (courtesy of YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord). So Netanel, things will become better for Israel -- do NOT doubt this. BTW one should have complete faith in the Holy Name of YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord. One should NOT doubt the potency of the Holy Name of YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord. One should NOT be shy in using the Holy Name of YAHWEH, the Supreme Lord.
41. #39
Netanel ,   FL, USA   (05.05.09)
1. There is no W in the Hebrew language. 2. The name you keep writing is not the Name of God. 3. If it was you would be violating mitzvot by pronouncing it, and by pronouncing it frivolously. 4. We will not put the Name of God on a flag which will be abused by the gentiles. Are you high? Your attempts to appear knowledgeable only make you appear foolish and stupid.
42. To Netanel #41. You Have Rejected.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.06.09)
In #28 you have rejected Jehovah as the Name of the Supreme Lord :” Jehovah is an utterly nonsensical word ..” In #41 you have rejected YAHWEH as the Holy Name of the Supreme Lord :” The name you keep writing is not the Name of God.” Dear Netanel, from the above quotes EVERYONE will understand that you dislike the Holy Name of the Supreme Lord, that you have contempt for the Holy Name of the Supreme Lord, that you hate the Holy Name of the Supreme Lord. And you consider yourself to be a religious person !!!
43. Wrong
Netanel ,   FL, USA   (05.06.09)
There is no J or W in Hebrew. Neither of the names you keep frivolously and idiotically throwing around are authentic Hebrew words/names, which God's Name is. Only Christians and Karaites (ie. non-Jews) foolishly go around using these names as if they represent anything. Jews do not need to fabricate names for God, we know what His names are, and we have the proper reverance for them. Christians such as yourself don't and never have.
44. To Netanel #43. Revealed ONLY To Representatives.
Maansingh ,   The Netherlands   (05.07.09)
You say :”.. Jews do not need to fabricate names for God,” The Holy Name of the Supreme Lord can NOT be speculated upon by ordinary people like you or me. The Holy Name of the Supreme Lord becomes revealed ONLY to the representative of the Supreme Lord -- representative like Moses the Law Giver. The Holy Name of the Supreme Lord is NOT revealed to ordinary people. -- IT is revealed ONLY to the representatives of the Supreme Lord.
45. I hope...
Walt K ,   Sherbrooke, Canada   (05.09.09)
that nobody will get up for asking Copyright compensations...
46. Rivkah #34
David ,   USA, exile   (05.12.09)
Yeshua said NOTHING about this star! The star remphan was referred to by Stephen in Acts 7:43 and was called an idol. This had nothing to do with the Star of David! When will you STOP adding to scripture and misquoting scripture? When will you stop bringing reproach on the followers of Yeshua with your evil imagination? If you can show me in scripture where Yeshua said anything about this star of remphan I will print a public apology in the newspaper of your choice.
47. 33
zionist forever   (05.12.09)
Although the menorah would have been a more logical symbol to have on the flag the reason its not is that the flag in its current form was the pre state Hagganah flag. it wasn't until when the state became a reality that the menorah was adopted as the national symbol. If the flag was created after the state itself was created it probably would be a menorah The Maggen David itself was adopted by diaspora jews and over the centuries in the diaspora at least people have mistakenly treated it as some kind of religious symbol. Israel was founded by diaspora jews so its only natural that diaspora symbols would have been adopted It would also be wrong to put GODS name on something as common and unholy as a flag which is waved from all over the world and not in a religious manner. GODS name should be for holy objects and objects treated as holy. Everybody knows and hates the Israeli flag in its current form so why change it. When it comes to Israel if its broke why fix it.
48. Orao , rivka , josh . You have something in common
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.13.09)
Not Jewish at all , only missionaries of non Jewish "beliefs" and superstitions . Stay in your churches
49. i forgot to add maansingh as a christian missionary
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.13.09)
You can all hold your "lord" , your superstition for yourself . Jews , even seculars , don't need this fake one .
50. islamic symbol
zacharia ,   amsterdam   (08.11.09)
the star of solomon was revived by the muslim. Also used and respected by them. the jews have taken it over....
51. Book cited
Matthew Navarro ,   Boise, USA   (11.08.09)
The book cited by Prof. Scholem entitled "Magen David- History of a Symbol" in the article is hard to find. I have searched for it on a number of search engines and can't seem to pull up any information specifically regarding the book.
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