Agree to disagree Charles I hope somewhere down the line you will connect your head to your heart. A lot of your reasoning is just a plain reflection of yourself. I am sure that when you go back into your family’s history, that there were Torah observant Jews there. What you and your fellow enlightened liberals fail to see, is that you would not be here today, were it not for those same Torah observant Jews. Just keep on pretending that we stand a change to survive here just based on some Hellenistic principles. Without Hashem in the picture we can again kiss our tuges goodbye here in our only land. I do not hate, it is just plain annoying that so-called smart people can be so disconnected from our true destiny here in this land.

that my grand parents were very observant . Without them i would not be here , that's right , but it's the same for everyone , Jew or Gentile . Without grandparents no grandchildren . That our people survived thanks to the Torah observing People , is partly true . We also survived because we , we , even the seculars , were not accepted in their society . What i do not accept is that part of the religious try to impose their way of life on me . Have you put your tefilim on today , or the "shabbes" shouted at me while still living in Europe . i can give you other examples too . You not hatefull ? that's not what your TB showed to me . שבת שלום

Judah: RMK was also born in NY and also lived in Queens and was older than I am when he finally moved. Would you have been on him too for being a couch zionist? Charles: Oh, Chalres, what am i to do with you? David was critisizing the "Fake liberal elitists" i was saying they are not so fake...

Were not accepted in their society [ the Gentile ! ]

We have been putting up with this sort of thing for years, I guess now it's your turn. In Great Neck they have intimidated store owners to close down on Saturdays, it's a big mess.

It's not because you attack someone with whom i diasgree that i have to agree with your writing . I asked you what was the relation between the writer sexual preferences and this article : silent . Regarding Judea , don't you know the History of our people ? Sadly , we will probably have to give away a part of it .

What means the : miserable cranky , self hating sucker or esau names you gave to me ? Are'nt they hatefilled ? Something else : when you invite people at your table for Shabbat , it's a Mitzwa . But if you claim proudly that you have done it , it is'nt a Mitzwa anymore . Am i wrong ?