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Sharp drop in conversions recorded in 2008
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 28.05.09, 08:34
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1. Drop in Conversions
Bruria ,   Haifa   (05.28.09)
There is a whole lot more wrong with the system. People who are sincere, educated, and have tried to follow the non-existent rules have waited for years. The system is corrupt and in the past few years since the establishment of a "conversion committee" it has gone beyond insane. Why indeed do people want to convert--and why when they spend years are they denied without reason?
2. Because Torah Principle of Conversion Betrayed by Haredim
(05.28.09)
3. the real reasons why
sarah the convert   (05.28.09)
I would love to live in Israel. I have money, and a business, don't need your welfare, and would take nothing from the state. I am far, far, far more observant than 90% of my Israeli friends. I dearly love Israel and spend signifcant efforts to support her, so why am I not making aliyah? Because I have no intention of moving to Israel based upon a lie by faking an Orthodox conversion just to play pretend a lie to the Rabbinate. That is wrong on several levels! I am Conservative and I cannot stonmach the Reform movement. It is time the leaders of the Conservative movement helped us make aliyah w/o any attachment to Reformism. It is time the nation of Israel used it's greatest tool for securing the Jewish identity in Israel--allow us the become full citizens with all rights, just like the Orthodox! We are waiting on you! We want to be Israelis!
4. #3 THE WAY YOU HATE REFORM IS THE SAME ANGER ABOUT YOUR CONS
....DACON9   (05.28.09)
BOTH ARE NOT PRACTICING JUDAISM. YOU ARE LIVING A LIE TO YOURSELF NO ONE ELSE IF YOU ARE BORN A JEW AND YOU ARE TRYING TO LEARN AND OBSERVE.. THEN YOU MAY AS WELL GO TO A ORTHODOX SHUL AND LEARN PROPERLY WITH TORAH ORTHODOX RABBIS AND PRACTICE S BEST YOU CAN.. YOU DRIVE TO SHUL ON SATURDAY..DO YOU THINK THE HEAVENLY COURT WILL EXCUSE YOU FOR YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS BECAUSE YOU ARE CONSERVATIVE? MOSES CAM DOWN WITH ONE SET OF LAWS...NOT 3.. S YOU SAY YOU ARE ''FAR MORE OBSERVANT'' NO YOU ARE FAR LESS OBSERVANT BECAUSE OF YOUR MINDSET TIME TO FACE YOURSELF... RELAXE AND RECONCILIATE YOUR SPIRITUAL LEDGER SHEET THANKS DACON9 jewswithviews@gmail.com
5. #4 you arrogant a.....hole ...you think you are jewish ?
rachel ,   usa   (05.29.09)
you think you are better than others?what kind of welcoming attitude is this ?enough of this bull .....
6. To;# 4
e.m.Jordan is Palest ,   s.f   (05.29.09)
MOSES CAM DOWN WITH ONE SET OF LAWS...NOT 3.. S YOU SAY YOU ARE ''FAR MORE OBSERVANT'' NO YOU ARE FAR LESS OBSERVANT BECAUSE OF YOUR MINDSET
7. To # 4
e.m Jordan is Palse ,   s.f   (05.29.09)
Mosses could bring more laws if he had known that in the 21 century the world will be 2 millions years in front of him, beside if you really believe in entire Judaism laws than why you are living in State of Israel don’t you think that you should wait for Moshyach to come and will reestablish the State of Israel?
8. #3 The first thing a convert to Judaism must do is
Keren ,   Israel-SP   (05.29.09)
to honor the people he /she wants to join. You are a goya,without doubt, and want to join Jews to spoil us or to introduce your jeus among us . You are not a sincere convert. Thank G'od for the Rabbinate of Israel for not letting you in!
9. Keren , you religious ? not at all !
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (05.29.09)
No TRUE religious person will write Yom Tov .
10. It's so sad...
Yoni ,   USA   (05.29.09)
We Jews can't treat each other with kindness and respect.. We look down on one another for something we don't agree with. Constantly judging. We constantly fight amongst ourselves. Only one man has treated us equally. He didn't care wether or not we were Reform or Orthodox. He treated all of us the same. His name? Adolf Hitler.
11. Who is a Jew
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (05.29.09)
I question the Jewishnes of the so called "experts " the Rabbis.Judaism is an Idea,not a cult or a ritual.
12. # 8
J.K. ,   Brooklyn USA   (05.29.09)
And you Keren ! Are not a sincere Jew.
13. Conversion
Ben ,   Monroe USA   (05.29.09)
Sharp drop in the number; no surptrise. Those who may wish to convert see quite clearly that the rabbis cannot decide what is a kosher conversion. Ergo, why bother.
14.  jewish Conversion has been Betrayed by Hared
Jaime Perz ,   santiago ; chile   (05.29.09)
15. #3 WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
ILYSE ,   ISRAEL/USA   (05.30.09)
I am 3rd generation JEWISH AMERICAN. My mother is jewish, my grandmother is jewish, my great grandmother is jewish and my great great grandmother is jewish. my brothers both married israeli women in israel. i married an israeli man in israel. my brothers and i were all married by a orthodox rabbi. we were all raised in a CONSERATIVE JEWISH HOME. MY NEPHEW JUST GOT OUT OF GAZA, MY NIECE ALSO SERVED IN THE IDF. MY CHILDREN WILL ALSO SERVE IN THE IDF. I DO NOT GET ANY OF YOU. I HAVE NO PROBLEM LIVING IN ISRAEL AS A CONSERVATIVE JEW. BY CHILDREN WILL HAVE NO PROBLEM MARRYING IN ISRAEL. I THINK WHAT YOU ARE SAY IS AN EXCUSE NOT TO LEAVE AMERICA.
16. "authority to revoke conversion"
Josh   (05.30.09)
Isn't this a sin? Even God has not revoked the requirement of Torah/ How can one take on the requirements of Torah and then have a man who is not even a prophet revoke it. Rabbis as usual are pulling sin on the souls of the nation of Israel. Anyone who revokes what he has no jurisdiction to do so (even heaven won't do this), should be arrested and jailed, don't you think?
17. Church goer 16 : not your problem
(05.30.09)
18. conversion, hahaha
(06.02.09)
read all these hate filled talkbacks. Listen to all the hate filled rabbis. Orthodox can't get allong with reform etc.etc. blablabla. Who in their right ming would want to convert to any of that.
19. Herediim, Secular, UO, O, Reform, Conservative etc
Ben ,   Monroe, USA   (06.05.09)
Yep, we have all kinds of varieties of Jews. We don't agree and many can't stand other varieties. So what. You want to join our tribe? Which variety? You can do so but not in Israel. In the USA, anything is possible and probable. Look at the goyem. Catholic, Protestant, Baptist, Greek Orthothox and on and on. They don't get along either. Nobody likes the pope, even the Catholics find him to not to their liking. Islam has only two varieties, they don't exactly get along with each other either. Killing the other variety, doesn't seem to be any kind of catastrophe. Personally, I have no interest in converting. I am what I am, a simple Jew and will remain so for the balance of my years. You want fight what's best for you; enjoy.
20. Ben , no interest in converting ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (06.07.09)
Does it mean that you are NOT a Jew [ as i thougt already ] ?
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