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Netanyahu tries to handle Likud opposition
Attila Somfalvi
Published: 11.06.09, 00:56
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1. Why cant the MK's have some testosterone and say the facts:
Jae ,   Lynn US   (06.11.09)
Jordan is palestine. 2 state solution solved.
2. He better not! or else?
Jewish Refugee   (06.11.09)
If Netanyahu caves into the pressure from Obama than the coalition should collapse and new elections called in so a new prime minister with some real character and leadership could lead this country not be a slave of Obama. For more please visit: http://israelactnow.blogspot.com/
3. Jewish State - Muslim State
Bernie ,   Erehwon , USA   (06.11.09)
Let Israel cease to be a Jewish state when Saudia Arabia ceases to be a Muslim state. No, make that about a thousand years after the latter happens, possibly in 2010.
4. Bibi, Don't Go Down The Two-State Road
Wisconsin Marshall ,   USA   (06.11.09)
The moment you do the US will put your train on a fast track without any brakes. The US will be the conductor, and Israel will lose control of its own destiny. Listen to Begin and Hotovely. Begin stated it beautifully in an article in this edition. It will be two-states on the way to one state - Palestine. The Palestinian Arabs have given up none of their objectives. Eventually it could turn into what Chaim-Israel keeps calling the two-state final solution. What will happen to the Jews? Fatah charter calls for all Jews who weren't in 1948 Israel to be expelled. Armed struggle is named as the road to follow, not a tactic only. Hamas charter simply refers to killing Israeli Jews and replacing Israel with an Islamic Palestine. How can people be refugees after one generation when they are in the countries of so-called Muslim brethren? And all that oil money to help them be absorbed. Israel absorbed its Jewish refugees with almost no money. There are already two Arab states in the old Palestinian Mandate, Jordan and Gaza. Not enough room to stuff in another state. Israel does not have to be a Jeffersonian democracy. What surrounding country fits that description? Certainly arrangements could be made for Arabs living in Judea and Samaria that allow them to express their rights in municipalities or through Jordan. They won't accept it, but then they don't accept anything. It's the best that can be done for them for now. Tzipi said you can't just throw them the keys over the fence, but that is what Abbas wants while he waits impatiently and the Americans encourage him in this. Abbas wants Israeli soldiers to leave Arab cities, but the last time this was done we got the second intifada. Bibi, these other considerations probably mean your arms are being twisted to the point of breaking. Veiled threats and blackmail. The worst trend for Israel - Obama mentioned the word - is the force being applied by him and all the old hands from the Clinton administration. The repetition of all the mistakes from Oslo and the 2000 Summit are again at hand. Bibi, don't be forced into actions that are disasterous for Israel. Don't be rushed. Sometimes the status quo or moving slowly is best. I see no immediate solution that will hold to be at hand.
5. The American idiotic dream
Frank ,   Canada   (06.11.09)
There is no such as a two-states solution because Arabs don't want to live at peace with Israel. If Americans are serious about being committed to Israel security, they must understand that creating a Palestinian will deteriorate this security. Bibi must refuse American propositions and makes clear that Israel will never accept a bi-national state. Israel is not in charge of solving a problem created on purpose by Arabs.
6. It would be stupid to call for a 2 state solution
Steve   (06.11.09)
If Bibi accepts the 2 state solution, which is disastrous to Israel's security, he will lose much of his support. In the last election, many Likud voters defected to Yisrael Beitenu. If the Likud changes its policy and supports the 2-state solution, they will alienate their support base of right-wing voters. Should Bibi decide to support a Palestinian state, I'll bet that next election, Yisrael Beitenu will be the largest right-wing party, and both National Union and Habayit HaYehudi will grow in strength, while Likud will be weakened. Bibi was elected on a platform which was against a Palestinian state. If it turns out that he was lying, the right will not forgive easily.
7. Now Bibi finally....
Joshua ,   Jersey City, USA   (06.11.09)
...realizes the inevitable, that Israel will have to recognize a Palestinian state. I'm guessing he always did. My guess is, in 2 years time, Likud becomes the new Kadima and Kadima becomes the new Labor (which it's close to already).
8. NO BIBI
FAD EGYPT   (06.11.09)
DONT DO IT DONT CAVE INTO US PRESSURE EM YISRAEL ELECTED YOU NOT TO SURRENDER THE JEWISH LAND BUT TO BUILD IT TO SOLE THE PROBLEM IS TO TRANSFER THE PALESTINIANS TO OUTSIDE AND I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL WORK SHALOM
9. benny begin speaks the truth. follow his wisdom.
debra ,   usa   (06.11.09)
10. Two States or One, LIke GM Stock
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (06.11.09)
Who is governing Israel, Bibi (appointed by Peres), or members of his party? This frankly is absurd, the confusion galore within Israeli politics. Kadima got more votes..yet Livni is NOT P.M? Where is Israel coming from? Bibi (and Israel) cannot thwart 2 states, the world (and Obama) won't let it. Most Israelis want 2 states..most Americans want 2 states. The Big 4 want it. The questions now should be, under what conditions? The Arabs demand the 67 borders and right of return., as if the war never occurred., or subsequent wars. (if Israel lost, well). Bibi is against 2 states..and for good reason., he knows the Arab mentality (and goals). The large left and moderate see no other alternative. If Bibi renegs on 2 states..what will Obama do over next 3.5 years? To Israel: be flexible..let the Arabs hang themselves, with THEIR outrageous demands. In the end..there may be no solution that is viable..just more violence, more hatred, more Arab hostility and armies. The Allon Plan is my preference (with modifications). Autonomy under Israeli security. But don't bet on it, it's like GM stock, a loser.
11. Israeli atittude on peace
queenoor ,   Palestine   (06.11.09)
"We want peace; we just don't want a Palestinian state. We know our enemies have been fighting us because we keep denying them statehood and continue to hamper efforts to create a solution with the Palestinians, but that's okay. Even though we slaughtered more civilians than them and we are transfering our citizens to their territories that dont belong to us, it's all okay. We are the victims, not them." YOU LOSERS ARE NOT GONNA BE ANY SAFER, AND ISRAEL WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE IN A STATE OF FEAR.
12. Begin said it all!!
Abe ,   Los Angeles   (06.11.09)
I really do not understant the prime ministers who agree to a suicide solution. Will someone please explain it to me?
13. I would say:
Abe ,   Los Angeles   (06.11.09)
Mr. Netanyahu, are you sure you agree with a two state solution not because you will in turn receive millions of dollars and special gifts from the US and/or Europe? Sorry, if I am wrong, but how could you otherwise agree with a two state nonsense? You KNOW that the Pals do not want a two state solution either.
14. go bibi
ari   (06.11.09)
you do the right thing for israel. we're proud of you.
15. spineless
Marcel ,   Florida   (06.11.09)
Israel's Channel One TV reported that Netanyahu was told Tuesday by an "American official" in Jerusalem that, "We are going to change the world. Please, don't interfere." The report said Netanyahu's aides interpreted this as a "threat." Benji the poodle knows how to follow the orders of his god as he has already proved many years ago. It is impossible for a Jew who ignores the God of Israel ,one without faith in Him to stand up to the evil bully empire. The U.S. is the perfect example of a two timing whore. The slut likes many partners and is loyal to none.Israel is too faithless and stupid to dump the whore and dirties herself in this sick, perverted relationship which will only bring them great suffering and misery. There is no peace for Israel coming from her sick marriage of desperation. You cannot ignore the will of God and expect something good from the slut.
16. What Considerations
Ralph Levy ,   USA   (06.11.09)
'there are considerations you aren't aware of' What Considerations? are you going to sell out Israel don't you have any guts do you represent the United States or Israel. NO TO US PRESSURE> http://ralphsrant1.blogspot.com
17. just like Sharon
Eli ,   USA   (06.11.09)
This is directly reminiscent of Sharon's "moderation" when he assumed the prime minesterial role. He made the same argument for why his positions were changing - i.e., that as prime minister he had greater and broader responsibilities to the state and needed to accommodate considerations other than idealogy. Let's face it, until Israel no longer needs America, Israeli leaders will always defer to America. It amazes me when idiots talk about the "control" Israel has over American policy, when the obvious fact is that the opposite is true.
18. Tiny Israel is too small for two states:
Dave Ronen ,   Haifa   (06.11.09)
Especially when the Arab group takes joy in massacring Jews. The Arabs own 99.9% of the Middle East. They have the space to place ALL the Arabs who claim to be Palestinian –– without cramping. They have the money to settle the Palestinians, especially if the money now spent on the Arab "refugees" is added in. And why should there not be room in the Middle East with its 22 Arab states for a single Jewish State? In fact, when you think about it, the major question is: where should the Palestinian arabs be resettled? that and the need for Israel to stand firm and look out for its own interests for a change. More at : http://xrl.us/bi5c8
19. How nice o-bum-a and mubarak have all the answers. This is
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (06.11.09)
very convenient, who knew all this intelligence was wrapped up in the minds of a malevolent dictator and an Egyptian president? No doubt these two have the cure for cancer and the solution for global warming.
20. Because of Obamas distortion of history...
the left in Israel ,   is dead.   (06.11.09)
and no politician correcting him...........civil war in Israel is guaranteed!
21. Netanyahu .. the double cross ?
DT ,   TA Isarel   (06.11.09)
Netanyahu has the making of the "Great Betrayer". If he gives in to Washington and Arab demands and the 2 states I hope his government falls and falls big (Obama would love it) but we get a truly Right wing PM.
22. GAZA IS THE PALESTINIAN STATE -
ORAO STRANKA. ,   TSARIGRAD U SRBIA.   (06.11.09)
ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF JEHOVAH !!!. Orao.
23. The Writing on the Wall
Michael ,   Haifa   (06.11.09)
Right-wing Nationalists are either illiterate or need a new set of eyeglasses
24. Netanyahu is Irrelevant
Nour ,   Palestine   (06.11.09)
So Net Yahoo makes it clear that his govt, through imposing of ridiculous "conditions" on already signed agreements, is not willing to endanger his coalition of fanatics for the sake of peace. We knew this would be the case anyway but were willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. It's not imperative on Obama's part to effect regime change and impose sanctions on the apartheid state of Israel. And to those who call for our "Transfer" - I give it to you chaps, you've been doing just that since 1948 but the party is over. No way a single Palestinian will be forced to leave home, over our dead bodies. It's now a Palestinian free state or the whole region lit on bloody fire. Netanyahu? Who's Netanyahoo?
25. No Israeli Partner for Peace, Obama must face reality
Nour ,   Palestine   (06.11.09)
26. "And what's your alternative?" Yehudim in Yehuda and all of
Kerwood Derby ,   Frostbite Falls, MN   (06.11.09)
Eretz Ha Kadosh. Jews in Judea and the genocidal, mass-murdering, extortionists should have their right of return enforced back to the homicidal, Hamite, peninsular homeland of their own name. That would be humane and culturally correct so as you won't have to kill the recidivists that you and US release from their cages, fund, arm and train them when they come to, G-d forbid, kill and maim you again.
27. Every Jew who has not made aliya....
Emet ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.11.09)
can put there name at the top of the blame list. If we had filled up those areas while we had control we would have kept the whole land.
28. That's what you get from a secular G-dless leadership
Marty ,   FL USA   (06.11.09)
practicality, cowardess... and ultimately a lot of dead people. Sadly that's the truth.
29. GAZA THE PALESTINIAN STATE !!!.
ORAO STRANKA. ,   TSARIGRAD U SRBIA.   (06.11.09)
JESAJAH CHAPTER 11. vers 14. But they shall fly upon the shoulders of the Philistines toward the west;- Orao.
30. Two State solution?
Laura ,   Casa Grande, Az., US   (06.11.09)
If it were only a solution of the land and peace then since both Jordan and Saudi Arabia,who are so bent on dividing Israel's land should give the same amount of land they are requiring Israel to give up out of their own countries. But this is not about land but two houses of people and who is the legitimate heir to the posessession of the inheritance. The Palestinians who were for the most living in Jordan and were kicked out from there should be given a portion of Jordan and Saudi Arabia for their homeland. But this is not possible because this issue isn't about the land but a vehement hatred of the sons of Ishma'el, who was born of an Egyptan save girl towards the sons of Isaac who was born of the wife of their comon father Abraham. All those neighbors of Israel want Piece not Peace of the land and are determined to rid them from the land and they will use anything in order to accomplish this.
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