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PA: Speech dealt deadly blow to peace process
Ali Waked
Published: 14.06.09, 21:19
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31. A state ?
Adri ,   Paris   (06.15.09)
to *9 " A state with no honour" This is the word : Honour". Without honour Arabs can't exist. For 60 years, they prefer imagine that they keep honour and refuse a state. Today they are profesional beggers, and they still think they have honour. Who give food to Palestinian Noor ? Is it honour ? Nope, it is UN. Palestinian will never be able to get a state because they don't want to get one. Leading a state include being responsible and put an end to begging.
32. To #9 Nour. You have a Chutzpah.Honour State ?Pals and Arabs
George ,   USA   (06.15.09)
Wanted to anhilate Israel in 4 wars. You still expect that we don't ask for security in our borders. Why didn't the Jordans give you a State durng 19 years and anexed you?Where was your honour. Where is your honour that for 61 years you have become the UN beggars. You are the only refugees that have not integrated to society blaming Israel. You were ofered a State in 1948 and you rejected it. thinking that with the arab armies you would throw the Jews to the sea, and get their piece of land. Then there were no setelments. Now you want a reward and receive with honour what you screwed up. Abbas says that Nataniahu blew all posibilities of peace. What he and you expected. A Military State, All the refugees in Israeli land, Divide Jerusalem, which has been shared during 42 years with all religions. While the Jordanians in 19 years destroyed, synagoges, cementeries, and didn't allow Jews to go to the Wailing Wall, to give back every inch of land after Israel was atacked in 4 diferent wars to anhilate it. Resolution 242 says go back to SECURE BORDERS. Pals only want their conditions with out accepting negotiations. Israel left Gazas's setelments and the response was an indiscriminate atack on civilian Cities in the South of Israel? After that experience Israel has to put conditions. During the Clinton era, Barack ofered the palestinians, everything, including sharing parts of Jerusalem, it was rejected by Arafat. Pals want aSecular Israel . with all the 4million refugees in Israel and a divided Jerusalem. In ten years maybe arabs will be a mayority and Israel will cease to exist. You think, Israel is stupid and doesn't know the Palestinian and Arab Game? Honour you say Ha! I say Chutspah. Israel is the Jewish State get through your head. In 1948 the UN created a Jewish State and an Arab State in the Protectorate of Plaestine. Now Arabs dont accept the Jewish Character of Israel, but Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Afganistan, Iran etc, can be Moslem States? Israel is racist but they are not. Hamas wants to create a Caliphate in Palestine but Israel is the racist...mmmm. Israel has an arab population but Palestine will not accept a Jewish population.. Racist???
33. what he has done is told arabs ball is in your court now
zionist forever   (06.15.09)
Up until now Obama has been the defenders of the palestinians and demanded everything of Israel and nothing of the palestinians including no demands made to end terror. Now Bibi is saying this is a two way street boys no more Olmert / Livni style surrender to terror if you want something of me I want something of you so you do your bit I will do mine, you don't do anything neither will I. Olmert set a precident of making concession after concession and asking very little in return.
34. 9
zionist forever   (06.15.09)
Sadly Bibi killed the single state idea. By accepting the idea of two states he has ruled out the most practical idea of Jordan being the palestinian state as it should be. Now the palestinians are going to have to accept the old fashioned we make the demands and you accept every single one of them or else no peace. No peace means no state so they can spend another 61 years in refugee camps with pleasure or they can make compromises and get something. Compromise or refugee camp its up to them.
35. For once you have a point, Nour
Mark ,   Lodz, Poland   (06.15.09)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU .......if you stop killing your children. A one state solution, down the line, could pose a threat to Israel's demographic. Nonetheless, it's preferable to a 2 state one....read your Balfour Declaration...it's still a binding document that the Brits reneged on. Anyway, we'd find a solution... maybe more Aliya for a start ...myself included. Shalom and Salaam
36. #9 - Good thinking. I fully support that solution
(06.15.09)
and then we will send Netanyahu back to where he came from !
37. The PA already has it's state; Jordan
Motty ,   Netanya   (06.15.09)
Just where in the Koran are teh cities Jerusalem, Bethlehem and Hebron mentioned? Where is Efrat mentioned? Beer Sheva? Schechem? I can show you many places in teh Torah and Tanach where they are mentioned!!!!!!!!!
38. Netanyahu's speech reminiscent of
Bernie ,   formerly of Seattle   (06.15.09)
the speech Yiftach HaGiladi made to the King of Moav! One point he missed was to educate Obama that Israel was not created as a result of teh Holocaust but because it was given to us by G-d and it says so in the "Bible" If Obama claims to be a Christians (which he in truth is probably bot) how can he look away from what is written in the Bible?
39. a bunch of retards
Jake ,   New York, NY   (06.15.09)
Israel is led by a bunch of extremist retards. Keep denying the Palestinians what other people have denied before and see what is going to happen to you. Your politics is unsustainable and is bound to backfire eventually.
40. Shut up!!! Just shut the hell up!
Talula ,   Israel   (06.15.09)
Stupid ass Palestinians! Did they expect Bibi to say that each and every Israeli is going to pack up their bags, leave their home and vacate Israel? Ha ha ha ha, well that's NOT gonna happen. Whatever the contents of Bibi's speech, they were going to whine and whinge and moan..... as usual. Get a life and stop with your moaning. Compared to other countries around the world, you don't have it so bad.
41. Netanyahu Speach for Obama
Avi ,   Tel Aviv   (06.15.09)
placating Obama and the racist government... the speech was a success. an overture to the Palestinians... a genuine plan for advancing peace? The speech was a failure, and no surprise. "Long live the Jewish nation" Stupidity
42.  WEDDINGS WITHOUT GUNS UNTHINKABLE!
ROLAND SEENER ,   LONDON ENGLAND   (06.15.09)
PALESTINIANS CANNOT EXIST WITHIN THEIR FEUDAL SOCIETY WITHOUT THEIR GUNS.EVEN THEIR CHILDREN SPORT TOY GUNS,AND HAVE FANCY DRESS PARTIES DRESSED UP AS SUICIDE BOMBERS.THEY HAVE NO INTENTION TO LIVE IN PEACE WITH US.IT IS ONLY BECAUSE WE HAVE THE UPPER HAND THAT WAFFLE ABOUT LIVING "SIDE BY SIDE"IN TWO STATES WITH MUTUAL HARMONY CAN BE AIRED.IF THE BOOT WAS ON THE OTHER FOOT,WITHOUT "HASHEM"S HELP,WE ALL WOULD SOON BE "GONNERS".THIS FACT OF REALITY IS OVER-LOOKED,BLINDS US AND "KIDS US "INTO A FALSE SENCE OF SECURITY,THE UP-SHOT TO THIS E-MAIL IS THERE NEVER WILL BE PEACE UNTIL DEMILITARISATION IS CARRIED OUT WITH FULL FERVOUR.THIS THE ARABS WILL NEVER AGREE TO.
43. Israel demands, based on UN resolution, that its neighbors..
Amihai ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (06.15.09)
...recognize it as the nation-state of the Jewish people and that it, a UN member state, has the right to defend itself. If these two demands mean "sabotaging" peace I don't know what peace is. Instead of spewing hate of Israel it is time the Arab leaders, Palestinian and otherwise, stated clearly their recognition of Israel's right to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people and has the right to defend itself, in contrast to their on-going attempts to wipe it off the face of earth.
44. The Regular
Moshe ,   Jerusalem   (06.15.09)
Perhaps if the Pallys were willing to give in and compromise as much as we do we would have peace, but they still stand by the three No's, No compromise on the right of return, No to undivided jerusalem and no to giving up terror... I always have the same argument with leftists its no if there should or should not be two states, thats not the problem preventing peace ts that no leader of theirs can come back and say "I gave up the right of return" they will kill him and rip up any agreement! Thats the truth and the bottom line they are sticking to the principals of 1948 and the three No's!
45. good all the Israely arab
ghostq   (06.15.09)
will be allowed to move to the new palis state, and all the whining will be stoped. Israel for jews and palis for arabs.
46. PA: Speech dealt deadly blow
Nili ,   Jerusalem   (06.15.09)
To #9--hundreds of years back the muslim people had great literature, philosophy, art and even a bit of tolerance. Now they have turned the generations into uneducated barbarians. For decades you have collected world aid--why did you not educate your children in the arts and sciences? Why did you only teach them hate and murder? History from the beginning of time is proof that you, like the caveman cannot survive. Do yourself a favor and learn to love your own children more than you hate us.
47. If The Jews Waited 2000 Years For Their Own State
Reuven Brauner ,   Raanana, Israel   (06.15.09)
...the Arabs can wait a thousand.
48. What's your peace plan, Abbas? Or you have none?
S.   (06.15.09)
49. As if Israel owes the Palestinians anything?
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (06.15.09)
Israel wants a Palestinian state not because it owes anything to the Palestinians. Israel does not owe any part of Jerusalem to the Palestinians. Israel does not owe any right of return of Palestinians to its area. Israel does not owe the Palestinians to let them have their own army. Israel wants a Palestinian state simply because Israel wants to separate from the Palestinians, we don't want any part of them. For this we are willing to generously give the Palestinians many areas in the West Bank (which they may CLAIM are theirs to begin with, but they'll never get them otherwise), including the removal of many settlements, so they could sustain an independent state. The Palestinians can accept the this peaceful solution, or they can continue their "armed struggle" and suffer endless more casualties.
50. Palestinian state
Alexandre Chinovich   (06.15.09)
B.Netanyahu made this forced step under combined pressure of Obama, EU, and Labors within his government. Now he has two possibilities: (a) make step-by-step concessions on settlements, Jerusalem, borders, demilitarization, refugees until the end of Israel; (b) draw on the talks to the infinity as neither of Israel's demands are met. There is also a third possibility, very distant though: to make a transfer of the Arabs from the Jewish state to the Palestinian one.
51. Bibi's hobby
(06.15.09)
Like he did last time he destroyed the peace deals .... and back to the null point again ..... Israel doesn't want peace because they want more land it's the zionists aim ... no way with such people ... wars running intheir blood .... one day they will be destroyed afetr the middle east will be full of neuclear weapons ..... from dust to dust .
52. Dear Nour
Gloria ,   US   (06.15.09)
You can take your pretend "honor" stuff it in a suitcase and move to Saudi Arabia where woman are neither seen nor heard. Can't have it all your own way so you cry and want war. Tough. Stuff it . Obama's ME peace plan will fail. The Arabs will see to that and Bibi's speech adroitly just helped them to miss the boat, yet again.
53. ABAS MUST LAUGH HIS OWN JOKES
DENNIS ,   CHICAGO, USA   (06.15.09)
KNOWS THAT THE PALESTINIANS NOT RECOGNIZING STATE OF ISRAEL SCUTTLES ANY CHANCE FOR PEACE IN THE ME" BUT DOES HE REALLY THINK THAT HE CAN SQUEEZE NATIONAL RECOGNITION OUT OF OBAMA WITHOUT RECOGNIZING ISRAEL ? DOES HE ALSO DO STAND-UP COMEDY ?
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