So what if you get gay activists protesting against Israel? You get a lot more straight ones. I'm gay and I support Israel. So do lots of straight people. Your sexual orientation doesn't matter. Let's emphasise that, people's sexual orientation IS NOT IMPORTANT. The Pride Parade isn't to shove thr gay 'lifestyle' (whatever that is) down anyone's throats, it is a symbol of progress towards a tolerant society. A Torah-abiding society is a tolerant one, not a hateful one. Lastly, when gay people are no longer stigmatised by the religious and various other groups, there won't be any need for a pride parade.

Your (ridiculously stupid) comment can only mean that you like watching girl on girl action but two men together are a no no. And that, is only because you associate yourself with being gay and are fighting your feelings. Come out the closet already.

He said he was gay before he married my mom and that my mom knew. Everyone in the family knew but me and my sister. i'm still in shock......

And why should we ? Because it was written some thousands years ago ? Sane people don't need those Torah laws to behave correctly . They know by themselve what's allowed and what not . They know that their FREEDOM finishes where other's freedom begins . Don't come with : their parade hurts , Nobody obliges you to attend . God gave us this country ? Not at all . It were those 6000 , mostly seculars , if not anti religious , who gave their BLOOD for our country . izzi d # 29 asked : why should we be "tolerant" . If you want to be TOLERATED , be tolerant . God created you ? and who created the Gays ? YOU ? Where is the liberal code of moral written , izzi d ?

It is a minor point in her article, but it is irritating and a bit silly that Ms. Maltin spreads the untrue myth that the State of Israel was created as some sort of response to the Holocaust. From an external standpoint, the State of Israel was created pursuant to international law -- in particular, the Jewish people's right to self-determination, which right in the post-Ottoman context granted the right to statehood. From an internal standpoint, the goal of a State of Israel was in full swing, and had achieved much of its success, well before the Holocaust.

More gay men would mean less straight men to compete for women. More gay women would mean a more limited supply of women. Clearly the first option is better!

no one refer to his or her own neighbour with that atitude only if they r minorities in a country witch want to be like the rest under the same rulling, not as seperate nation, makes me wonder if palis r ready to govern themselves? you want respect but untill far palis just turn violence towards Israelies, it started long time ago, not just yesterday, many Israelies civilians got killed during the years by palis, among them sucide bombings(we all saw how palis delivers candies after the sucide took place) so give me a reason y should Israelies except palis, when maalot massacre happend, palis killed school children and pregnant woman with her unborn baby. it was in 70's, after these acts you want respect or recognition?

(snobish)people here have no respect to other opinions. ;P

Only your god can deny it [ for you , a believer ] As a believer you should think that there is a supreme authority who will "judge" them , and it's not up to you to do it .

Now get this straight- I do not hate gays. I am bothered by flaunting homosexuality as a legitimate lifestyle and wants my approval. But, it is precisely because I am observant that I follow what the Torah says. And its says that the homosexual act is an abomination. It does not say that homosexuals are, just the act. Judaism dislikes anything that goes against Nature because it undermines the Divine plan of "being fruitful and multiplying". All plants, animals and humans are designed to reproduce in order to maintain and further life on this planet. What homosexuals are doing goes against life and are not doing they part in furthering mankind's existence in this world. Using genetics as an excuse to perform homosexual acts does not cut it with the Torah. This really is straight talk.

FOOLS! I am a gay man! What I mean to say is that every time someone wants to make a point about how terrible things are, ie police, army, war, the comparison to Nazi Germany and their machine is used. its CHEAP, over used and does not depict every "underdog" situation in the world.

You obviously missed the begining of the book. You clearly know nothing about Israel and its history. I'd keep quiet now if i were you.

"Mentally ill people insist on marching through the streets of Eretz Yisrael" ? SAY WHAT? Uh huh! I'm thinking the mentally ill ones here are the Haredi that smash property, spit at people, hit policeman and through dirty diapers - all on the Shabbat, the holy day. You don't see that kind of behaviour at the Gay Parade. It’s peaceful, fun and no-one gets hurt – AND it’s NEVER on a Saturday. You need help. YOU are mentally sick and blind not to mention stratospherically stupid.

Gays are born gay. They are still Jews. You were born an anti everything that doesn't live life as you do. The name for that is Bigot. That's what you are. That doesn't cut it with the Torah either,

God created all of us, straight, gay, tall, short, left handed and right. God created us all. To be a good Jew, we must accept the diversity of Gods' creation. To be a great Jew, we must teach other Jew's to love Gods' diversity.

anti- jewish- anti-semitic? Anything else? You consider it your right to persecute gays- anybody else on your hit list- because it is your right as an Jew? I am sure in all the xxx rules and laws there is one that mentions loving your neighbor, not spreading lies, no gossip, no badmouthing, tolerance maybe? For a religious person you sure seem to have it all figured out. Self-righteousness is not a positive thing.

Years ago an Arab once told me in regard to a similar issue regarding the lack of even basic jewish tenets here in the land. "See, you Jews don't follow the Torah. You have no connection to the land of Abraham , Isaac, & Jacob. No connection to Moses and his laws. Why do you need to be in the land? To bring pork and prostitution to the holy land. To defile what is good? Go back to Europe, go back to your places till you know what it is to be a child of Abraham. This is why we hate you. Your claim to the land is invalid as long as you behave as such. This is why we want to kill you. You are heretics, blasphemers." This was in 1992. When I lived in San Fransisco, when I was not a religious jew. When I did not wear a kippah or tzitzis. When I had a ponytail and did not look like a jew. Gays are not minorities-it is a lifestyle choice.

God created all os us .....true, depending or who you ask. We have the right to choose our path in this life. But does being a "tolerant", "observant" Jew mean we ignore what is written in the Bible. If the Bible is truly the inspired Word of the Living God, how are we to treat what is clearly written? Apparently God hates any kind of sexual immorality - whether heterosexual or gay in nature. Fact is we are all sinners and in need of serious spiritual salvation. Until we realise this I guess...anything goes.

read what 42 wrote again and tell how you interpret it as a bigot? moron

homsexuality as 42 said is not a sin. the act is. who the hell said tolerance is always right? certain things arent allowed. so what all you ignorant liberals think that well hell, do what you want! its ok! there is no right and wrong. no moralilty, no perversness. give me a break.

You win the prestigous award for the most ignorant and stupid tb ever to grace these pages. Yu are an absolute and complete brainless moron, words fail me

shadoil, I apologize, with your explanation at #43, I agree.- you are a brave man to admit you are gay. I have the highest respect for men and women who are honest. We have to learn to be more tolerant- respect people, people's feelings- respect them as they are, not as we want them to be---- . All the self righteous bigots in this TB- maybe one day when your son or daughter admits to being gay you will remember this discussion and bow your heads in shame. yes it happens in all families, secular and religious. To judge and condemn is not up to us humans- God created us- . Who are we to argue with God? Are the bigots telling God that he did wrong, made a mistake? Bigots: Gay Jews are still Jews- how can you turn against your own people? In my experience gay people are the most kind, considerate and helpful people. I would rather have 10 gay friends than one over zealous bigot as a friend.

then go to the top of the line for Idiots.

pleas enlighten us in true wisdom other wise your wasting our web space, give us more argumentative points, cause you r boring.

The reason is not due to their decision. If it was, it would be reversible. The reason is genetic. Each human male has a different percentage of masculinity and each human female has a different percentage of femininity. Successful gay couples are complementing each other regardless of their anatomically clear cut sexual deviations. It is high time that gays unable to reverse their deviant sexual decisions, be genetically, hormonally etc...investigated in order to prove that they are variants human sexual variants. Treatment ? Maybe next step.

Who ever told you that Israel was created as a place for Jews to be free? Sorry to be the one to break the news to you but God took us out of Egypt and brought us to the land of Israel to be our God so the Torah perspective is absolutely relevant here. If you're looking for total acceptance of any behaviour you choose you'd better stay in San Francisco. This is the Holy Land, it comes with accountability for our choices.

Too many people treat Judaism like a Chinese restaurant menu. You can't choose "One from Column A" and "One from Column B." You're either opposed to homosexuality or you're not, but instead you seem to be, pardon the expression, hung up on the genitalia.