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Israeli sub sails Suez, signaling reach to Iran
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Published: 03.07.09, 16:58
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1. What an interesting mix... a middle eastern country with
Erastus CoupeDeVille ,   Ong's Hat, NJ USA   (07.03.09)
Uboats and WMDs... a possible threat to the world's oil supply?
2. Sweet
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (07.03.09)
A couple, three cruise missiles carrying nuclear payloads launched from the Straits of Hormuz .... bye-bye Bushehr, bye-bye Isfahan .... hello glowing cinders where Iran's nuclear ambitions used to be. I like it. I really, really like it.
3. Does anyone know...
Persian CAT   (07.03.09)
where the Iranian subs are???
4. Psalms 20:7
Amen! ,   Israel   (07.03.09)
Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.
5. probably not the smartest idea
mike ,   san diego   (07.03.09)
to be revealing the position of one of your precious 3 subs, especially with a veiled threat at Iran. Sun Tzu quotes in his timeless 'Art of War', ""All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must seem inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near. Hold out baits to entice the enemy. Feign disorder, and crush him."
6. To: No. 3
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (07.03.09)
It wouldn't matter. They are not nuclear-powered, they do not carry cruise missiles and they do not run silent. Their sonar is about 30 years out of date. Think of them as a fleet of Yugos compared to Israel's fleet of Rolls Royces.
7. #4
Michael ,   New York   (07.03.09)
Oy vay!!!!!!... the haredi are at it again... There is no god that will save us... Military might and strength is what will save us. "The LORD our God" did not save us from the holocaust. what makes you think that we will now be saved by this elusive GOD?
8. #3 WHo cares
freejay333 ,   Israel   (07.03.09)
Iranian subs are a joke.....50 year old junk! And quit pretending that you are a Persian cat.....its obvious through your support for the shia that you are really nothing but a Iranian Rat! Real Persians like Israel....unlike your disgusting hatred of us!
9. 1
zionist forever   (07.03.09)
Egypt was a Middle Eastern country with Uboats and WMDS Iran was a Middle Eastern country with Uboats and WMDS Until recently when they were decommissioned on the grounds they were death traps Syria was a Middle Eastern country with Uboats and WMDS. Thats alot of threats to the worlds oil supplies. This was just a little bit of flag waving for Iranian eyes so they know that Israel can hurt them if it wants to.
10. MOFAZ
haim ,   modiim   (07.03.09)
does idf must ask to the french president before crossing the canal ?
11. #5 Hamas perfected the Art of War
Zohan ,   Tel Aviv   (07.03.09)
Hamas in mask can't be recognized but when attacked, they remove their mask and blend in withe crowd. The manipulate the media with some clever staging or Photoshopping. The result? The world got fooled. innocent children Gazans got killed and Hamas gets to fire rockets into Israel with impunity.
12. Persian .....CAT
Charles   (07.03.09)
have you voted Mosavi ?
13. To #7, Michael - Isaiah 49:13-16:
Born again Christian ,   Israel   (07.03.09)
"Sing for joy, O heavens, and exult, O earth; break forth, O mountains, into singing! For the LORD has comforted his people and will have compassion on his afflicted. But Zion said, "The LORD has forsaken me; my Lord has forgotten me." "Can a woman forget her nursing child, that she should have no compassion on the son of her womb? Even these may forget, yet I will not forget you. Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are continually before me." You may be angry with me, but I am not haredi. Testemony of Holy Spirit makes me think that we will now be saved by God Almighty - God of Jews. What makes you think that those verses from the Book of prophet Isaiah lost now their validity?
14. to # 7 dear brother
aaron ,   mexico city mexico   (07.03.09)
you idiot open your eyes and see everything that Hashem is giving you first your life and the things you're enjoyoing including the ability to read and write and post blasphemous thoughts. Regarding the Shoah there still many questions and maybe some answers. What has been keeping us arround for so many years is t basic FAITH (EMUNA) in G-d,that everything is for our best.You want to know more go and search in lazer brody,aish,etc etc etc May Hashem forgive your sins and clarify your twisted mind and bless you..
15. Easily answered, Persian CAT
Cameron ,   USA   (07.04.09)
All of those Persian subs are forever locked on to American targeting screens, and a mere button away from transforming into scrap gently falling to the ocean's floor. Big toys are only for big boys, Persian CAT.
16. #3
(07.04.09)
god, don't make us laugh please. also, no iranian sub (toy compared to the dolphins subs) has a nuclear payload capability. none! while the dolphins do indeed.
17. #6 Rolls Royces? ....In Your Dreams!
World Citizen ,   the world   (07.04.09)
While German made diesel-electric submarines can be extremely quiet they are not the Rolls Royce of submarines. You would have to look at the nuclear powered attack class American and Russian subs for that. What do you think the operating range of a diesel-electric sub? Maybe 3000 miles round trip if they stay on top of the water. Nothing stealthy about that. Where are the Israel oil tenders for long range missions? You'd probably have to rely on the Americans to help you out. If not for them Israel would be helpless. Basically the Israeli navy is feeble by world standards. And the Americans don't trust Israel. They know your past history. They and the Russians probably tract every one of the Israeli subs every minute of every day. There won't by anymore U.S.S. Liberty incidents.
18. #4 With due respect ...
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (07.03.09)
... the Lord's our shepard, says the psalm, but just in case, we better get the Bomb
19. #13
NilsG ,   Helsingborg, Sweden   (07.03.09)
With all due respect you are spouting nonsense and gloss over a very real question that has plagued friends of mine who saw their families goto their deaths in Auschwitz and other death camps - where was the Lord our God then? The Holocaust, that is one thing that made my friend feel the words of the prophet had lost its validity. SO Kol hakavod to the IDF and the submarines and the cruise missiles that may or may not contain nukes.
20. Why don't we buy a few subs from the russkies?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.04.09)
21. #19, NilsG. In Psalms 81:13,14
Christian ,   Israel   (07.04.09)
God Almighty says:"Oh, that my people would listen to me, that Israel would walk in my ways! I would soon subdue their enemies and turn my hand against their foes." Now, do you believe that most of Jewish people and other nations that suffered during WWII were fitting to verse "You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might."(Deuteronomy 6:5)? Consider also Exodus 20:5! On the contrary - most of them weren't in the right place before God(being right with God isn't something additional, it must become your essence)! There are many things that divert out attention from God. Ephesians 6:11,12 says:"Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places." Our problem is not some groups of people(flesh and blood), but some spiritual(evil) beings that fill(entice) these people with different ideas as different mythologies, phylosophies, religions, prejudices, fascism, communism, racism, radicalism, anti-semitism etc. If we fail before GOD'S HOLY STANDARTS, then we have to put our trust on technologies, nukes & shmukes. But when you'll defeat your physical enemy, don't think you can escape from God"s wrath(for not being obedient to Deuteronomy 6:5)! Amos 5:18,19: "Woe to you who desire the day of the LORD! Why would you have the day of the LORD? It is darkness, and not light, as if a man fled from a lion, and a bear met him, or went into the house and leaned his hand against the wall, and a serpent bit him."
22. To: No. 17
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (07.04.09)
"scuse me. Israel's submarines are not diesel-powered. Yuk. Yuk.
23. To: No. 18
Sarah ,   New York City, USA   (07.04.09)
Ah. A Tom Lehrer fan, I see.
24. Sarah Not Diesel-Electric? Better Go Do Your Homework.
World Citizen ,   the world   (07.04.09)
As I stated before they are German made diesel-electric powered submarines. For the layman like you, that means that use diesel fuel to generate electricity to charge batteries that in turn power electric motors. On the other hand, world class submarines .... you know like the ones the US, UK, France, Russia, and China have? Well they have nuclear reactors driving their motors. They never refuel. That means they can go as long as the crew and the food last. They can stay underwater for longer than humans can stand to go without sunlight. Huge difference between Israeli subs and a world class submarine.
25. Iran should go at full speed...
Marco ,   Spain   (07.04.09)
to acquire nuclear weapons for self defense.
26. Sarah #6
Marco ,   Spain   (07.04.09)
Is that the reason you dont know where Iranian subs are?
27. World Citizen, Where do you get your info?
Ron   (07.04.09)
Are you that World legendary Intelligence Expert? A Spy? How do you support/validate your assumptions? Are you just another Vanunu? I am closer to the topic than many and I don’t know as much as you believe you know. -R
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