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Netanyahu uses historically charged term in talk with German FM
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Published: 09.07.09, 23:03
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1. Judenrein
zbrk ,   Eshkolot, Israel   (07.10.09)
How could he better describe a condition to a guest from a foreign country than to use a term in the language of his guest? The fact that the term was not only spoken in the language of the guest, but that it was given modern credence by the guest's own country would, in other places, be termed a remark of respect. Why would intelligent readers think otherwise?
2. What is wrong with telling the truth
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.09.09)
Ethnic cleansing is ethnic cleansing. Europe is urging the ethnic cleansing of Jews from their lands. They also demand that we allow Arabs to steal our lands, and kill us without fear of any defense on our part. Telling the racists that we won't go to the ovens without a fight.
3. Bibi calls a spade a spade...
Joe ,   Ramat Gan   (07.10.09)
Our current leadership doesn't have much spine, but it's much, much better than what we had under Olmert!
4. Judenrein?
observer   (07.09.09)
what is his speed in saying bad remarks? Netanyahu has just referred to Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod, Obama's senior aides: as self-hating Jews.
5. Why Take Offence?Whats The Big Deal
Lawrence ,   Safed Israel   (07.09.09)
???Bibi just told it how it is.
6. #5 us rught, what is the big deal
Shlomo ,   LA   (07.10.09)
It is the truth, glad someone is finally saying it.
7. judenrein
etta ,   brooklyn new york   (07.10.09)
He is 100% percent, the arabs want all of Israel judenrein, but if they cannot get it right away, they will try to get it slowly. BUT THIS IS THEIR GOAL. BIBI IS RIGHT!!!!!!!
8. terminology
(07.10.09)
A storm in a teacup, there is no "terminology". In German, the term "Judenrein" literally means "Clean of Jews" which is exactly the Saudi/Obama plan: ethnically cleansing territories from the presence of Jews.
9. Frank Walter Stenmeier
Rod ,   Fargo N.Dakota   (07.10.09)
Anyone who knows anything about that fool Steinmeier knows he received his position because ofGermany's coalitrion Govt. He likes singing Muslim Rap music with Muslim rappers Go to youtube put his name in along with singing rap.It's very funny.
10. Bibi very good
Richard ,   The Hague Holland   (07.10.09)
Good that he made this comparison. They, the germans, have to be reminded once in a while especially because being a country (with this history doing substantial business with Iran.
11. No objection to using Apartheid and Holocaust against Israel
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (07.10.09)
inappropriately all the time in UN and other international forums and in all countries of the world but when Jews want to use the word Judenrein...oh oh ohohoooooooo
12. Judenrein? Yes, Judenrein
better observer   (07.10.09)
what do you call when Jews are not allowed to live in certain areas of the Middle East and in particular in the ancient cradle of the Jewish people? what do you call when selling land or a building to Jews is punishable by death east and west of the Jordan river?
13. No surprise here, this comes from Reuters
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (07.10.09)
nobody else thought that this is offensive in any way
14. Judenrein and Ethnic cleansing
carlos ,   San Diego, U.S.A.   (07.10.09)
YES, THE ARABS AND PALESTINIANS AS WELL AS EUROPEANS SUPPORT JUDENREIN AN ETHNIC CLEANSING. Excellent Bibi!
15. Judenrein
David ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.10.09)
Kudos to the PM for telling it like it is. For too long now, Israel has been condemned as an apartheid state when it is really the arab entities (Saudis, Syrians, Palestinians etc) who have excluded all Jews from their borders and the world does not notice. Maybe they will begin to take notice.
16. Judenrein is EXACTLY the right term
Sandy   (07.10.09)
The Arab rejection of co-existence with Jews today, is rooted in the Hajj Amin al-Husseini's embrace of Nazi policies and philosophies from the 1920s. "Judenrein" is a perfectly-appropriate terminology to apply when talking about today's Arab rejection of Jews. It's not offensive to modern Germans who have long renounced Nazism.
17. W. Bank-Judenrein vs Israel-Arabrein
vit ,   usa   (07.10.09)
If the West Bank should be free of Jews. Israel should be free of Arabs/Muslims. Fair is fair. No?
18. Judenrein
Ovadia Salama ,   New York, NY   (07.10.09)
Simply brilliant. Bibi and Lieberman did it. With ONE, one word. Having been myself "judenrein-ed out" from Egypt in 1957, I know that all the Arabs want is to ethnic-cleanse Eretz Israel, and the world from Jews, and call us an apartheid people. Time for the world to get the truth. Bibi, I raise my hat to you. You made my day, and more!
19. The brilliant Judenrein truth, finally.
Ovadia Salama ,   New York, NY   (07.10.09)
Now, please give this "remark" maximum media exposure. Let the whole world know. Get the most out of it. It is a great trump card. Spread the word. Ovadia Salama
20. The Arabs are hyprocrites
Steve   (07.10.09)
The Palestinians, and the government of every Arab country, demands that we give the Palestinians their own state. They also demand that we allow millions of Palestinian 'refugees' into Israel. At the same time, they demand that a Palestinian state be set up in Judea and Samaria, while also demanding that Judea and Samaria be declared a judenrein area. They want Palestinians to be allowed to live in Israel with equal rights, but don't want Jews to be allowed to live in the area that they claim will become a Palestinian state. Its racist, its hypocritical, and we must tell them to shove their demands where the sun don't shine.
21. judenrein
Stephen Fishman ,   Kingston, NY USA   (07.10.09)
Judenrein is exactly the correct term. Could it be that using such a term, the most concise and accurate, and understood by everyone, not only German-speakers, is more unethical than actually enforcing it?
22. Efforts to atone? Should be spared such invocations?
Steve Klein   (07.10.09)
Did not Frau Merkel, just this week or last week demand Judea and Samaria be made judenrein? Did the German Chancellor not demand all Jewish communities be removed from Biblical Israel, from Judea and Samaria? Please. How has Germany atoned?
23. #4: They are, aren't they?
Steve   (07.10.09)
I am referring to Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod. Who in good conscience could serve this hater?
24. Kol Hakavod Bibi
Besalel ,   Kew Gardens, NY   (07.10.09)
While some Jew hating journalist at Rueters may believe that , "Protocol might have indicated that a representative of the country that carried out the World War II genocide, and which has since made much effort to atone, be spared such invocations" the truth is that "turn the other cheek" is not in OUR bible. Thank you Bibi for telling it like it is.
25. # 13 Genuine
Ginette Golden ,   Toronto, Canada   (07.10.09)
You're right; this must come from Reuters, the same like all the (fake) doctored photos that come from the same place (i.e. Eurobia). Are they saying a Jew cannot defend himself with words or otherwise? Well, they got their nose out of joint, tough! The more power to you Bibi. Strange how there are no Arab talkbacks on this one.
26. Should Israel avoid the term because Germany ...
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (07.10.09)
... has "made much effort to atone"? Absolutely not. Germany and others need to comprehend what it is they are demanding in a language we all understand. And since when do foreigners withhold their tongue to avoid insulting Israelis? That Israel is starting to assert its own rights and interests is something long overdue.
27. the west bank being "juderein" is a bad choice of action its
(07.10.09)
the perfect description of what is being planned by Obama-Bibi-EU-Abass
28. EXTREMELY IMPORTANT AND APPROPRIATE WORDS !
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (07.10.09)
MANNERS AND COURTESY ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN EVERYDAY LIFE AND ESPECIALLAY IN WORLD DIPLOMACY WHERE THE STAKES ARE HIGH AND WORDS HAVE MUCH STRONG MEANING. SOME PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK THAT BIBI BROKE FROM PROTOCOL IN HIS USE OF THE TERM AND WORDS ..... "Judea and Samaria cannot be Judenrein ". IT IS PRECISELY THESE WORDS THAT HAVE A DIRECT EFFECT WITH THE GERMAN MINISTER OF THE COUNTRY WHICH VERY WELL UNDERSTANDS THIS TERM AND IS GERMAN IN ORIGIN. THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT FITS. WHY PLAY GAMES IN ORDER NOT TO "OFFEND" THE GERMANS. THE GERMANS WOULD NOT DENY NOR MIS-UNDERSTAND WHAT IS MEANT BY " JUDENREIN". ALSO THE ARTICLE SAYS ....."Some diplomats questioned the propriety of applying such comparisons to a Middle East " WHY IS IT THAT "SOME DIPLOMATS" SHOULD QUESTION THE PROPRIETY OF BIBI'S WORDS ? OTHERS MAY INTERPRET THESE WORDS IN ANY WAY THEY WANT. HOWEVER, BIBI WAS RIGHT ON !
29. Right words to the right people !
Ezra ,   Canada   (07.10.09)
30. when did it become illegal
tomi ,   lee/s summit   (07.10.09)
Why should Israels Pm kowtow to the germans, since when did it become illegal to tell the truth. Sorry but lying elected officials are a de facto reality in america
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