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Israel rejects Solana's call for deadline on Palestinian state
Roni Sofer, Reuters
Published: 12.07.09, 23:40
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31. JEWS Mass MURDERED For WICKED LIE of "Occupation"
Linda Rivera ,   New York   (07.12.09)
Stop the Arab Occupation of Israel! THERE NEVER WAS AN ARAB COUNTRY OF PALESTINE JERUSALEM WAS NEVER THE CAPITAL OF ANY ARAB OR MUSLIM ENTITY Arabs first started calling themselves "Palestinians" in 1967. Global terrorist, Egyptian Arafat was the first leader of this new people. Partner with Arafat for 40 years; highly respected by the US/EU-Holocaust denier, Abbas, financed the massacre of Israelis at the Munich Olympic Games. Before 1948, Jews were known as the Palestinians. The Jewish newspaper, the Jerusalem Post was called the Palestine Post. The Jewish-founded electric company was Palestine Electric. The Palestinian Symphony Orchestra was all Jewish. During World War II, the British army had a Palestinian Brigade made up entirely of Jewish volunteers. After Jews migrated to Palestine in significant numbers in the late 1800s and miraculously transformed desert and swamps into rich, agricultural land, Arabs came in large numbers from Arab countries for jobs from Jews. The fact that the overwhelming majority of Arabs resided only briefly in Palestine is attested to by a one-time special UN decree: that any Arab who had resided in Palestine FOR ONLY TWO YEARS BEFORE 1948, and then left, would be considered a refugee and so would his descendants! Throughout history, people were NEVER regarded as refugees if they had resided in a country for ONLY two years because they were clearly CITIZENS of OTHER COUNTRIES!
32. A Coming "Peace Plan" Will Change The World ... FOREVER!
Craig Crawford ,   Laguna Niguel USA   (07.12.09)
A coming 'peace plan' for Israel will change the world ...FOREVER! The Bible warns of a coming prophetic event which is very important . . . A coming "Peace plan" (covenant), or "treaty," or "resolution" will one day be enforced upon the nation and people of Israel. We are warned in Bible prophecy of a coming 7 year period ("one week of years") which will be defined by a "peace treaty" which will be forced upon Israel. This coming 7 years or "one week of years" is first revealed in the book of Daniel (9:27) ... and then in the book of Revelation. Chapters 6 - 20 in the book of Revelation provide the prophetic details of the (terrible) events which will take place during this coming 7 year period of time which is prophesied in the book of Daniel. This coming 'peace plan,' 'treaty,' or 'resolution' will be "enforced" (confirmed) by a coming world leader who (we are told in Bible prophecy) will first rise over a group of 10 nations which were once part of the Roman Empire (Europe?). The Bible doesn't say this coming world leader (the 'Antichrist') writes this coming 'peace plan' or treaty, but says he will ENFORCE a peace plan ("covenant") upon Israel ... this coming treaty or peace plan may have been drafted sometime earlier ... The Bible also warns exactly 3½ years (1,260 days) after this 'false peace' is enforced, this "peace plan" or treaty will be 'annulled' by a coming world leader (the Antichrist) while addressing the world from a new Jewish Temple (which will someday be built in Jerusalem) . . . it will be this address, given by this leader, from a newly built Jewish Temple which will trigger the terrors of the final 3½ years of the "Great Tribulation." Here the Bible warns a coming world leader (Antichrist) will rise out of nations that once made up the 'Roman Empire' who destroyed the city and the Temple ... "And the people (Roman Empire) of the prince who is to come (the coming 'Antichrist') shall destroy the city (Jerusalem) and the sanctuary (the Jewish Temple)." (Rome destroyed the Temple in 70 AD) (Daniel 9:26) Daniel wrote these prophecies about 500 years BEFORE Rome came against Jerusalem and the Temple . . . "Then (later) he ('the prince who is to come' ... the coming Antichrist) shall confirm (enforce) a covenant ('peace treaty' or 'peace plan') with many (in Israel) for one week (a week of years = 7 years) But in the middle of the week (exactly 3½ years after enforcing the 'peace') He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering. (He will probably help Israel build a new Temple first) And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate ..." (Revelation chapters 6-20 detail the coming events of this time) (The coming 'Apocalypse' ... the 'Great Tribulation' ... Armageddon) (Daniel 9:27) It also appears from Bible prophecy the "Rapture" of all sincere, believing Christians (followers of Jesus-Yeshua, the promised Messiah) will take place sometime before this coming "peace treaty" is enforced upon Israel. We must never force Israel to give up the land God has given them. It is theirs. Pray for Israel and Her people. The coming Apocalypse will be the irreversible result of this 'Peace Plan' which will one-day be enforced upon the nation and people of Israel by a very popular coming world leader, a false 'man of peace' ... the coming Antichrist. The world will soon get the leader it seems to be longing and waiting for. This powerful leader will be popular, attractive, charismatic, and a great talker whose many words will not be chosen for truth, but for lies and deception. This coming leader, who has many titles in the Bible including the Antichrist, will kill many Christians and Jews . . . Grace and Shalom, www.alphanewsdaily.com www.theprophecies.com
33. #19 Eric, Tel Aviv
Marco ,   Spain   (07.12.09)
Its non of your business Eric as to who would run some one elses country. Just worry about your own a$$!
34. Finally the world is....
Marco ,   Spain   (07.12.09)
coming to its senses. Every one is beginning to see Israel for what it really is. A criminal racist entity that should be eradicated.
35. And the Jewish State?
Mike Morris ,   LA   (07.12.09)
Will Solano ask the Palestinians to equally recognize Israel as a Jewish state?
36. Thank you George W. Bush...
Marco ,   Spain   (07.12.09)
Because your incompetence and stupidity allowed the Americans to see the light elect Obama, who is putting Israel in its proper place! Obama knows that Israel is nothing more than a pathetic apartheid state just as Carter said. Once again thank you George W. Bush for your stupidity.
37. Yes, and Israel should insist on it.
David Turner ,   Richmond, USA   (07.12.09)
Not that a resolution of the conflict will result in a change on the ground. Iran will still be there, and Arab oil will still be threatened; Iraq will still be a breath from civil war, as will Lebanon and Palestine. Despots, civil as well as monarchical will still rule unsteadily throughout the Arab Middle East. But at least Palestinian victimhood will be at an end, and the world will be forced to confront real problems, N. Korea, Iran, Pakistan, etc., without Israel to blame for the turmoil. Yes US and EU frustration and boredom may finally be on to a practical solution to the Palestine Problem: recognize Palestine as a state in both Gaza and West Bank. Then allow Fateh/Hamas sort governance out between themselves. Force them to decide on the ground whether or not THEY want a state, the responsibilities of state management, of an economy, defense, the practical welfare of a citizenry. Because up until now, and for more than 60 years whoever self-appoints as leader of the *revolution* appears more comfortable blaming others for their misery, content to live off sympathy and largesse. Put Palestine to the test. Then leave them to wallow in neurotic misery, comfortable in their self-made pathos.
38. Obama Leads, Fools Rush In
Ses ,   fl   (07.12.09)
All of sudden, and thanks to obama, everyone thinks they can jam a bad deal down israel's throat . Well Guess again. America is still heavily pro Israel and espeically the House and the Senate. So while obama may stir the pot on settlements, there is no political support for forcing Israel into a bad deal to help the palestinians. So marco and the rest of you Israel haters will have to negoiate. and by the way, when the arabs fail to make any concession to Israel for stopping the settlemtn activity, and Bibi will call their bluff, the pendulum will swing back and the Palestinians and arabs will be the ones who are seen hurting the peace process. Add in hamas and the pending confrontation with Iran and all you Israel haters will be back to licking your wounds. Just remember, history repeats itself and the Palestinians have a history of never missing an opprotunity to miss an opprotunity. They blew it before and i have every confidence they will blow the opportunity obama is givng them.
39. EU hypocracy
PW ,   Virginia USA   (07.12.09)
something just isn't adding up... the EU says they want the Israeli to return to the 1948 lines. now these are not the lines demarcated by the UN partition. The Arab aggression was met and defeated thus changing the line of Israel sovereinty.Now in 1967 Jordan starts a war of aggression and and loses more land. Now why is this land suddenly different than the 1948 situation. This is not even mentioning the Jewish rights under the League of Nations Mandate. So is the EU next going to demand Israel go back to the UN partition of 1948. Even these latter day anti-semites won't go that far. So what we have is a constantly changing set of rules. EU stay out of Israeli affairs....
40. So what's the deadline for the war?
Ken Quinn ,   Amsterdam   (07.12.09)
Solana is another Roman Catholic dupe.
41. So Lisa, do you still think our FM is "inexperienced"?Seems
like the right call ,   to us-But were Jews!   (07.13.09)
42. The UN Sec Council should recognize a Basque state too
Zvi   (07.13.09)
even though the Spaniards haven't yet worked out how to solve their Basque problem. And Turkish Cyprus even though the Cypriots haven't worked out their problem yet. Also Kosovo. And Tibet. And so on.
43. EU Uninformed Arrogance...
Roy ,   USA   (07.13.09)
Comments made by Solana just prove that the bureaucrats in the EU are still as arrogant and uninformed as they have always been. When Bush was the US president, the US Rep to the UN would have condemned such rhetoric, and stated that the US would veto any such idea. Since the Odumdum Administration is now leading the World down the "Road to Hell," who knows what will happen?
44. Solana is too weak to stop Iran so he picks on Israel?
Art ,   Denver   (07.13.09)
Solana can go and eat his own sh!t. Solana and the rest his European Union-EU cronies don't have the balls to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons so they decide to pick on Israel. F*ck off Solana. Solana and the EU are so weak that they now submit to Islamic terrorists, Hamas and Hezbollah. Reject everything that the EU says.
45. Europeans stay out!
Yaakov ,   Yerushaliyim   (07.13.09)
Hey, you Europeans spent nearly 2000 years killing us. Where do you think you got the right to tear us apart again?! This is a flagrant violation of our rights as a nation and a people. Maybe we should unanimously split the Basques off from Spain, Normandy off from France, Northern Ireland off from the UK, etc. Europe, maybe when your peoples have spent 2000 helping the Jews instead of killing them, you will have the moral authority to make pronouncements on the Jews. Until then, stay out. Your "help" isn't wanted or needed.
46. #15 Palestinian
X'   (07.13.09)
Yes the truth is coming. You will either renounce the right of return , recognize Israel as the state for the Jews and agree to accept Jerusalem as a shared city or you will be expelled to Jordan or just plain dead.
47. deadlines have been a bigger problem than terror
zionist forever   (07.13.09)
Since oslo we have been working towards dedlines mainly because we have had US presidents who want to be the ones to go down in history as being the man who managed to create that mythical state. if we had started off saying that we will have no deadlines we will have been working at a speed we all felt comfortable. Although there would be ups and downs and there would be stalls long term progress would have been made because we didn't have anybody rushing us because they are looking for lgacies. It may have taken a long time the result would be REAL peace not PEACE IN OUR TIME which is what Obama & the Europeans want. Oslo was signed 16 years ago and we are further away from real peace now than we were back then.
48. # 8 - LOL !!! :-)
Eyal ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.13.09)
49. # 17 YA you forgot one :-)
Eyal ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.13.09)
How about imposing an independent Quebec, separate from the rest of Canada :-)
50. #6 Terry I propose
Takan ,   Eilat Israel   (07.13.09)
Belgium should give back the East cantons that were taken from Germany in 1925. Spain should immediately surrender Gibraltar to Spain and should give back Ceuta and Melilla to Morocco. France, the last big colonial empire should leave the Reunion, Guadeloupe, Martinique and Guiana islands were they have absolutely no historical rights and they should leave Corsica as well. Britain should leave Ireland, Scotland and the 14 islands they still control from the British colonial Empire. Europe is the biggest colonial Empire up until today. They conquered America and killed all Indians there to create what is today the USA. They conquered Australia and decimated and caged the aborigines there for the rule of the white Europeans. Europe colonized all of Africa and most of the middle-East. The Spanish and Portuguese colonized all of South America. The same Europeans that only 65 years ago decimated and expatriated millions of Jews, gays and gypsies and turned a blind eye on the Jewish cleansing from the Arab world. Solana thinks he's Napoleon and you, Terry, are right (as always), we should definitely call this a declaration of war, a red line crossed. We have to stop this nonsense, give the Palestinians control of whatever land they have now, and resettle as many settlers as we can, without fighting or forcing anyone, into Israel. We have to protect Israelis wherever they are and secure our borders. Jerusalem is out of any deal and will never be in any deal. It is the sacred city for Jews and they were there before the Christians and before the Muslims so it stays Jewish and if anyone wants to visit, he'll be welcome if he's peaceful. This is no more time for deals and discussions. It's time to wrap up the country Jews have build in the last 65 years and secure it against yet another round of global hatred. This time Jews are better prepared.
51. #34 Are you Ahmadinejad's lap dog?
Cynthia ,   USA   (07.13.09)
52. Jews and Arabs.
Ron B. ,   Lod   (07.13.09)
Israel is the rebirth, the resuscitation of the Jewish nation in the land where Jews had their own kingdom, with Jerusalem as its capital, in ancient times. Jews are indigenous to the land. Arabs came to the area hundreds of years later. Both peoples have long histories there. If the Arab extremists would finally turn away from their supremacist views which include rejecting peace and coexistence with a Jewish nation, there could be a bright future for the children of both sides. As for Judea and Samaria, Israel should continue its military control over the areas in order to ensure its national security. It should also apply its law to the areas of Judea and Samaria that are within the domestic consensus. But, of course, the rights of the Jewish people to the land has also modern International Legitimacy as explained at : http://xrl.us/beja68
53. right of return
David ,   USA, exile   (07.13.09)
Spain should recognize Jews right of return from the many thousands driven out of spain in 1492. All descendants of these Jews should have their property restored or be paid its value with 600 years interest. This should be imposed on spain by the UN whether they like it or not and UN troops should be sent in to make sure it happens. My wife has many millions of dollars coming to her from this injustice and ethnic cleansing carried out by spain.
54. to #34 what you care, you as an arab run away
ghostq   (07.13.09)
from Israel and no longer live in Israel so no biggy.
55. to #36 don't count on obama too much
ghostq   (07.13.09)
his own party will give him the boot after he wont bring the bacon home. and I will tell you I told you so. ti hi ^_^
56. Solana is due to retire at the end of the year and at the...
Amihai ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.13.09)
...expense of Israel he is pushing for a land-mark historic move. In other words, his personal motivation plays a major role in matters of international affairs that will affect millions. What he does not realize is that what he proposes will lead to yet another Middle East war, the cost in human life of which will be on his hands. Also, he does not realize the resolve of the Jewish people in general and the Jews of Israel in particular: Yes, we want, indeed, we are and have been eager to achieve a peaceful accommodation with our Arab neighbors, but an accommodation that will be one of COEXISTENCE, of two nation-states, Jewish and Arab, as called for by the UN, living side by side in peace. So far, and probably not incidentally, the Arabs, for the past 61 years, have refused to recognize Israel's right to exist and to do so as the nation-state of the Jewish people, hoping some day to wipe it off the face of earth. We shall not accept this outcome, coming from either the Arabs or from Solana, a native of the country that expelled our people, hundreds of thousands of them...!!!
57. to #15 it goes both ways, the arab population will have
ghostq   (07.13.09)
to live Israel to the athority area.
58. to #56 so you say he is doing it just
ghostq   (07.13.09)
to put his name in the history book, mmm I am shocked? not really the quartette r also doing it non of them really care or thing on the complication and the outcome of their own stupidity, non of them really knows what they r doing, but all of them will remembers as fools without bell hat. so you 150% right.
59. Actualyl # 53 the real answer is
Lioness ,   Israel   (07.13.09)
The Arabs have never stopped hoping for one day to take over Spain. They want to re-occupy all the places where they were once living. So I suggest Spain to be the Palestinian homeland. Plenty of Moslems there to make them feel wanted.
60. Jordan IS Palestine
Lioness ,   Israel   (07.13.09)
Jordan occupies 78% of the Mandate and has a Palestinian population of 77% of the people. JORDAN IS PALESTINE.
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