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Absorption Ministry woos Maccabiah athletes
Yael Branovsky
Published: 13.07.09, 07:38
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1. Two week wonder
Jack.d ,   Jerusalem   (07.13.09)
There is a great difference in having a two week junket of enjoyment at the Macabiah games and touring the country compared to being bribed to stay in the country. The reality of permanently living here combating the arrogant and aggressive Middle Eastern culture and mentality will sink in very quickly particularly for an English speaking Anglo Saxon. I suggest to any Maccabiah participant to be aware of the many pitfalls that one can fall into living here and do there homework as from my experience Israel is not a bed of roses but thorns.
2. To #1: the Maccabiah athletes
Naftush ,   Israel   (07.13.09)
aren't guileless children who need your counsel on how terrible life in Israel is. They shelled out lots of money and took time out of their lives to participate in this exercise (pardon the pun) in Jewish identity. If they wish to consider aliya, I'm sure Nefesh be-Nefesh will provide useful advice.
3. To number 1
Shimon ,   Poleg   (07.13.09)
Anglo-saxon is a term nordic aryans in Britain and the USA use in fascist literature by deifinition referring to whites of northern European Germanic stock. The fact you seem to use it as a term for Jews who happen live in or have lived in English speaking countries is a little sick. Do you somehow believe that when an English speaking Jew lives in Israel he becomes some kind of a Nordic Aryan Gentile supremecist. Your choice of this phrase is bizarre. I am aware that this term is used by various groups in Israel however it should be condemned. By the way I made Aliyah from London and my parents are from Aden so am I an Anglo-Saxon according to your warped mentality? Or is my skin too dark?
4. To No. 1
Robert ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (07.13.09)
I am a former participant in the maccabiah (1993) and did indeed make aliyah partly as a result of my experience then. I've been now for 13 years and couldnt be happier - I would live anywhere else now. I encourage jews from all over the world, including english speaking countries to join us here. If you have a positive mind, there is no reason why you cant have a VERY good quality of life in this country - the stereotype of Israel being a tough place to live where everyone is poor, angry and aggressive belongs n the 70's....Israel today is a THRIVING country with lots to offer to anyone who loves life.
5. 1#, Jack Davis from Jerusalem, a poor soul
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (07.13.09)
He has spent years sending ant-Israel emails and letters to the editor.
6. Why not woo the soldiers that defend us?
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.13.09)
They gave two, three or more years of their lives to Israel. Placing life, limb and freedom to defend us. Give the vets scholarships, grants on the spot and not after a period of time and help with apartments and jobs. Let the vets stay here in Israel, they gave more and receive less.
7. A message to the ignorant
Jack.d ,   Jerusalem   (07.13.09)
#5 Open your eyes, ears and voice unless you are blind, deaf and dumb.
8. Aliyah Beware
Adam ,   Israel   (07.13.09)
I am an Anglo oleh, who was very zionistic. I love Israel but the reality is very much what Jack d siad. It is very tough here. I used to come on holidays all the time and it is way better than living here. Unless you are wealthy, getting ahead here is almost impossible. They promise the everything the Jewish agency but inreality once your here they offer no practical help in getting a job. Goodluck u have been warned.
9. Mazel Tov to all the athletes!
Fangyu ,   Cerritos CA USA   (07.13.09)
Shalom. Just being at Israel is already a winner.
10. euphoria of the games!
meg ,   Israel   (07.13.09)
I agree with #1, but also with those that say Israel is a good place to live. I have been here 42 years, and now retired. I would never have gone back to my so called "anglo saxon" country. I do wonder just what jobs will be up for offer in this reccession, also just how long the grants will last. My son is a Maccabi champion (15th games) gold and silver for Israel, and I witnessed the love the sports folks had for Israel, but they were also pratical, live and work abroad, but visit Israel, and they also made /make donations. SO heres wishing all the sports men and women Good Luck, thanks for coming and also bringing your families along, and whatever direction you choose may it be successful.
11. 7#, Jack Davis, poor UNHAPPY soul
Judah ,   Golan Heights,ISRAEL   (07.14.09)
12. To this Jack Davis [ muhmad el ...? ]
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.14.09)
Yes , there are problems here . I'm still Oleh Hadash [ 2001 ] and there are many things i dislike . But , where will you find the warmth with wich people talk to you , where will you immediately be familiar to a person you never met before ? But most important : Where will you be AT HOME ? בבית ?
13. There is no better country for a Jew than Israel
Frank ,   USA   (07.14.09)
My relatives moved to Israel from the USA.. Everyone complains but they look happy,and well-integrated They can return but they are staying put in Israel.
14. Frank , 13 , what are you waiting for ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.14.09)
15. charles
meir ,   london   (07.15.09)
you still havent answered me.and anyone else who has a LOGICAL answer is also welcome.Why do we live for??what is the point of life?Si tu veux on peut s'ecrire en francais.
16. Meir , we live to try to make some people happy
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.15.09)
You did'nt answer me i think on what i said .
17. charles
meir ,   london   (07.15.09)
if so then why do we die????
18. charles
meir ,   london   (07.15.09)
and yes i believe that the world that we live in was created 6000 ago
19. meir , you are a retarded man , arriere
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.15.09)
20. charles
meir ,   london   (07.16.09)
thats what you say when you got nothing to say.
21. Meir , your 6000 years proves it
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.16.09)
You live in the dark middle ages , not in the 21st century . Nothing else to say to such a retarded "man"
22. charles
meir ,   london   (07.16.09)
still got nothing to say.btw if you believe in evolution (which is nonsense cuz you still need a creator for that first spec of dust from where e/thing comes from)then you are an advanced monkey. frankly,i prefer to be an retarded "man"than to be an advanced monkey. now there is a reason why you prefer to be a monkey in front of a pc munching a banana,and not a man. that is because to be a man means you are responsable of your actions. being a monkey means you are not. that would stand you in good stead in court wouldnt it?"oh mr judge you cant blame me im a little baboon my father also used to steal peanuts!!!
23. charles
meir ,   london   (07.16.09)
and its valid for the moderators too.if you believe in evolutionyou believe that you come from monkeys. i prefer to be a retarded man than an advanced monkey. the reason you prefer to be a monkey means that you are not responsable for your actions.as opposed to being a man.
24. Meir , the moderators had pity on you
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.16.09)
and did'nt publish my nice words to you . Let me tell you , "very retarded" bipede . that it were those , as you call them "advanced monkeys" who gave you this computer you are using . Who gave you everything you need to live your poor retarded life . 6000 years . It has been proven scientiffically that the earth you vegetate on , is millions of years old .
25. 3...anglo saxon is commonly used in Israel
(07.16.09)
and though I appreciate your points, the massive chip on your shoulder makes it more difficult to take you seriously. Perhaps you should look to yourself and where you can improve your choice of verbiage as well.
26. 1. Life is hard for all immigrants to all new countries
(07.16.09)
that is the reality of it. Buck up and get on with life...stop whining as it is a waste of your energy.
27. evolution
meir ,   london   (07.19.09)
so tell me,mr know it all,how it started all those millions(im sure you mean billions)years ago.how did we start evoluting.why did we start evoluting?do you really think all this worldcame here by chance?if you do then you obviously do not realise the immense complexity of this world.and if you mention the scientists,you must obviously know that NONE of them can explain what happened at the beginning of time.and that there must be some kind of Force in the world...
28. Meir , great you needed only 3 days to find out
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.19.09)
this question . Well i'm sure that it was NOT your god who created it . Scientist are searching . You agree that your belief is wrong regarding those 6000 years . A good begin . Now let me ask you : where was your god when six million Jews were murdered ? Amongst them vast quantities of very believing Jews , Chassidim of all sorts . Where was your god when 1.5 million innocent chidren were send to the gas chambers or murdered in other ways ? INEXISTING .
29. charles
meir ,   london   (07.21.09)
sounds like you were waiting for my reply.if you want i can give you my email and you can ask me all your questions
30. Meir , is this your answer ? very poor
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (07.21.09)
I have'nt any questions , you can answer seriously , for you . And having a correspondence with you would need that i trust you . Who can assure me that you won't give my Email to everyone here ?
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