Otherwise they would be dead and unable to tell their story.

If your fathers and forefathers defended themselves against the Nazis the way IDF instructed you to do in gaza, maybe the 6millions holy innocent's decendent will be with us today. Nice pacifist bunch of w@nkers playing the morale guardians. No mercy for terrorists and future terrorists. Women are terrorists too. You don't eradicate today, they will gas you tomorow. Kapish? This is no self defence, but survival.

#30..ROB...HE SAYS HE WATCHED SOME OF THE ISRAELI ATTACKS ON A WEB CAM BUT SAID HE DID NOT REALLY SEE ANYBODY HIT, OR KILLED BUT HE FIGURES THIS IS WHAT HAPPENEND ANYWAYS. ROB GOES FROM AN IDEA AND A MAYBE AND THEN CONCLUDES THAT THERE WERE EVIDENCE OF ISRAELI ORDINANCE USED. OF COURSE ISRAELI ORDINANCE IS USED , IT'S THE ISRAELI ARMY STUPID ! ANY MORE REALLY "SOLID " REPORTING FROM YOU ROB ?

IDF: "Soldiers should come forth"... and I am sure IDF will act on IDF's crimes... sure! You do not ask a criminal to investigate his own crime... do you? No wonder soldiers want to stay anonymous!

It was a war, if those coward bastards were hiding behind their own civilians; what is IDF fault? Government should tackle all international problems and leave IDF alone. Next war; put these so-called activists in front line to guide soldiers where to shoot and where not to. Give them snow-white dresses for other side soldiers to identify them as "peaceful friends and not to be shot at". At the end of it all, ask them to keep an account of how many of them returned, half returned or never returned! Bloody idiots; has nothing better to do!

As I reside half of each year in Canada, I know how unreal the situation in Israel actually is to Canadians and, by extension, to New Zealanders, who are so far from such threats as if they reside on another planet. So Peter, "from another planet", where on earth did you come up with information that Israelis were faking the number and extent of missile launchers? I was there. I can tell you that the damage was real and that the threats were petrifying, especially when children and grandchildren were involved. So Peter, your "above-it-all" malicious attitude and ignorant belief in propaganda makes no sense to us Israelis other than recognition of your arch anti-semetic pronouncements. I've read your meddlesome "contributions" before so I doubt that no amount of actual proof, no matter how clearly and honestly presented, will affect your rigid opinions. But this commentary is written for those Talkbackers who might possibly be influenced or misled by your ridiculous writings.

funny that you call the hammas crminals behavior "heroic" when they live like rats 20 ft under ground, hiding in schools and hospitals, telling their own people to get killed and to blow theirself to get 70 virgins while they see all on CNN and BBC. Hammas, Hizbullah are not heroic, they are murders and people or countries supporting them are also criminals of the same heoric ADN...God Bless the IDF and the state of Israel!!

good that at least someone talk about his beloved hammas and the so called palestinian people...

So an organization funded by a foreign country (Europe/Saudi Arabia) publishes that some anonymous soldier reported war crimes. Nothing changes. A few years ago, some North Tel Avivians falsely accused their Druze office of murder because they wanted to get him fired. A few months ago, two soldiers from a Leftist military college invented some stories of war crimes to impress their friends. It is too bad the IDF does not sue the organization for libel. It is too bad the AG does not charge the organization for incitement for racism.

And ALWAYS will be. Civilians *WILL* be killed. This is a *fact* of war. To expect a war to be fought with no civilian casualties is lunacy! When the fighters hide among the civilian population *LOTS* of civilians will be killed. Perhaps the side whose soldiers hide among civilians should be brought up on charges?

Shoot first , save your life and fellow soldiers ! Worry not at all ! And remember the Gazans voted for Hamas by 80% and would do so again.

Have you any idea how many missions were called off to prevent civilian deaths? About 50%. We offered to take in your casulties. Your government refused. You need to take responsibility for your lives. U can prevent this. We really do not want to hurt you or risk our lives.

Did you see any Hamas combatants? Probably not, because web cams, vidio cameras etc, can be pointed away from what they do not want you to see. Did you watch vidios of Kasams landing in Sderot or Ashkelon? There is always more to any story than what you "see". The invasion of Gaza was wrong but, unfortunatly, necessary. We would rather live in peace and not have to protect ourselves.

"Out of context" sums up this story. Wasn't Hamas fighting, and fighting dirty and boasting about its use of human shields? When you've demonstrably leafletted the civilians to tell them that an attack on their area will take place, when you've demonstrably telephoned them with the same message, when you've demonstrably and unilaterally ceased fire every day to facilitate movement and the delivery of humanitarian supplies, you would be a fool not to regard anyone found in the area as a potential threat. Having cleared an area, soldiers' first duty is to keep each other alive. As one of them is reported as saying, "We did not get instructions to shoot at anything that moved. But we were generally instructed: if you feel threatened, shoot." Mark those words. "If you feel threatened".

so the idf soldiers were told to shoot if they felt threatened in order to minimize idf casualties can someone please show me the army that does anyting to maximize casualties? and rob says he didnt see anything, but heard bombs and gunfire and saw what he believed to be wp being used against people (but he didnt really see that either, just the plumes) so that is what israel is up against...someone's vivid imagination israel fought the battle the way it should be fought...they learned their lesson in lebanon...there is no morality to war...its kill or be killed. you blow up stuff and shoot people in war...sorry, but that is a fact

why does ynet allow Peter Morris , New Zealand to post what is a blatant falsehood, without one substantiated fact? that post needs to be stricken, unless it is being left up to show the irrational hate for israel and the idf

I don't know who these anonymous clowns are. They are probably journalists from Sweden and not real IDF soldiers. To the REAL IDF I thank you from the bottom of my heart for protecting the Jewish state during the Gaza War and know that you have the overwhelming support of both the Jewish nation and the U.S. Thank you and good luck in the future (except dismantling settlements in which I hope your luck is not so good)!

bring the comments of support on! all of it is stored on the web! and one day we'll look bk about how the "israelis" felt about the killings of innocent palestinians. its funny how some jews could forgot there past so easily, its sad. to the others that stand up against the injustices, I and the whole world salute you! that includes the IDF solders that spoke out against the tactics! and that says alot!

In the U.S. Military Service people have come forward and identified themselves.No one would believe some so called human rights groups who use anonymous sources

Don't be so smug. There's no shortage of information on the Web on various UK Army escapades, past and present. Remember India? Black hole of Calcutta and all that ... How about Kenya? Hunting Mao Mao for bounty ,,,, Shall we discuss the Boer War? Ooh -- let us NOT forget Malaysia. Oh -- Northern Ireland, of course. Not to mention what the British did to the Scots and Welsh people. Trust me -- the Brits have FAR more to answer for. Including present-day Iraq and Afghanistan. What I have cited BARELY scratches the surface of British war crimes -- REAL war crimes. Not fighting terrorists who hide among civilian populations thereby using them as human shields. Israeli soldiers have an affirmative obligation to protect themselves. You really need to shut up.

Adam, get real. We do remember our past, and we must recognize that we must have a future and and never forget that there is a world of terrorist that want to destroy us and you. I served in the IDF and I know that it remains one of the most "moral" military forces in the world. But do not forget that we are fighting a war of self defense.

If the Ten Commandments are not obeyed, what does the keeping of the other laws of Moses amount to other than mere veritable mockery which treats God as a fool. Thus the words of Moses are fulfilled when he says [Deut. 32:21] that God will not regard them as his people, since they do not regard him as their God.

The Ten Commandments say nothing about "murder." The commandment is "thou shalt not kill." War is by definition exclusive of murder. Killing is different than murder. Soldiers in a war KILL. They do not MURDER. Get a grip, get a life, get an education.

Don't judge all the English by Adam's posts - reading some newspapers can make you anti-semitic. Those with a genuinely independent frame of mind look for the facts and draw quite different conclusions. Either because the facts don't support their narrative or because they are too lazy to find out, Israel's enemies lie to anyone who'll listen. By contrast, since historical and legal fact, not false constructions put on it, support Israel's right to exist where it is and (mostly) to do what it does, Israel's supporters really need to to be careful to stick to the facts. So please be aware: 1. the Black Hole of Calcutta was an atrocity committed by the Muslim ruler of Bengal on British civilians 2. Mao became the Great Helmsman, never fighting the British directly except in Korea or indirectly except in Malaya (Malaysia came later), where we comported ourselves with dignity and with the support of the population until victory came 3. on the other hand, the Mau Mau were, themselves, guilty of many atrocities, in particular against their fellow, non-violent, Kikuyu tribespeople. Yes, we did some bad things there too, as in the Boer War, but certainly not in Afghanistan now 4. it can be confusing, I know, but the Scots and Welsh are British, too. Since the Scots are disproportionately represented in Her Majesty's forces, you might want to save your ire for them rather than for my direct neighbours 5. in Northern Ireland we have behaved with considerable credit relative to the Republican terrorists who, don't forget, trained with and provided assistance to the PLO No, Sarah. What you have cited is a load of nonsense. I understand your anger at Adam. But stick to what you know about.

are you or not boycotting Israeli goods ....come on man do it right ....if you are going to boycott Israel ...then the computer has got to go .....

ARE YOU ALSO GOING TO SALUTE THE BRITISH SOLDIERS WHO SPOKE UP FOR CRIMES THEY DID AS NATO TROOPS IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE WORLD.? BUT MUCH OF THE BAD NEWS RE: BRITISH SOLDIERS ACTIONS IS COVERED UP BY THE BRITISH GOVT. AND THE BRITISH PRESS......BBC FOR SURE ! ALL ARMIES DO MAKE QUICK DECISIONS TO REACT TO LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS. IT IS ALSO WELL KNOW AND MUCH DOCUMENTED HOW THE ARABS USE " STEALTH " AND HIDE BEHIND MOSQUES, HOSPITALS AND USE HUMAN SHIELDS. ALSO, I HAVE SPOKEN TO VARIOUS OF OUR CANADIAN SOLDIERS WHO TOLD ME STORIES OF CERTAIN CASES OF BRUTAL BEHAVIOUR BY SOME SOLDIERS. ALSO, CERTAIN STORIES ARE SUPPRESSED AS WAS IN SERBIA WHERE FIGHTING AND NEWS OF WHAT WAS GOING ON DID NOT GET OUT AND WAS HIDDEN. THIS AND STORIES LIKE THIS DO NOT CAUSE ME TO " RUSH TO JUDGEMENT " THAT CANADA'S ARMY AND SOLDIERS ARE BAD GUYS. CANADIANS ARE AMONG THE MOST MORAL ARMIES OF THE WORLD, BUT BAD THINGS DID HAPPEN. THE BRITS ARE ONE OF THE BEST AT HIDING THEIR " ACTS " IN WAR.... THEY ALWAYS PRETEND TO BE THE GOOD GUYS....... ASK THE IRISH , THEY KNOW ALL ABOUT THE BRITISH BEHAVIOURS IN IRELAND. AND THE FALKLANDS OR MALVINAS WAR STILL IS UNBELIEVABLE TO THIS DAY. HOW SMUG THE BRITS ARE WHEN THEY SEND TROOPS AND EQUIPMENT THOUSANDS OF MILES FROM THEIR BRITAIN, AND NO REAL THREAT WAS POSED TO BRITAIN ITSELF......... THE BRITS'S ARROGANCE AND COLONIALIALISM STILL LINGERS ON . IN SPITE OF WRONGS COMMITTED, IN THE WORLD, I WOULD STILL RATE THE CANADIANS, THE BRITS, THE U.S. , ISRAEL, AUSTRALIA ETC. AS MORE MORAL THAN MOST ARMIES. AN ARMY CAN STILL MAINTAIN A HIGH DEGREE OF MORALITY AND ETHICS AND THINGS STILL CAN GO WRONG..........NOT ALL BATTLES, SKIRMISHES GO AS SMOOTHLY AS PLANNED, AS THE UNFORESEEN IS ALWAYS LURKING AOUND THE CORNER.

same images and I could tell it was just a set up and more of Pallywood lies . get it in your thick head phospourous is used for lighting not on civilians ......enough of your bull .....you know it ... I know it .....