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Obama envoy: Arab-Israeli normalization will come
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Published: 27.07.09, 16:23
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1. what next???
(07.27.09)
and after the settlements supposedly freeze, what then? what reason would these filthy arab regimes find for not normalizing relationships with israel???? i'll tell you why they don't want to or rather afraid to. they are afraid that once normalization occures and there is tourist movements between the countries and that their citizens may be exposed to the incredible modern and free and healthy and democratic and prosperous and educational and technological THE WHOLE ISRAELI POPULATION INCLUDING THE ISRAELI ARABS AND THE PALESTINIAN ARABS IN THE WEST BANK LIVE UNDER....COMPARED TO THE DISMAL SITUATION OF THEIR ARAB BROTHERS IN ALL THESE ARAB COUNTRIES......there will be an internal arab revolution, demands for democracy, demands for freedom and wealth and better economy, demands for free press and less torture, less fear, less poverty, less inhimanity, less totalitarianism in the disguise or religious obligations. ALL THESE ARAB TOURISTS WILL FINALLY DISCOVER THAT THEIR LEADERS LIED TO THEM FOR 100 YEARS. their citizens will finally discover the reality their leaders said exists in israel which is apartheid, arabs treated like dhimis, etc....they will finally see with their own eyes that they have been led by propaganda, by lies, by conspiracy theories, by lying press and leaders. THEY WILL ENVY LIFE IN ISRAEL AND WILL DEMAND THE SAME CONDITIONS FOR THEMSELVES....AND THIS IS WHY THESE DESPOTIC LEADERS DO NOT WANT NORMALIZATION WITH ISRAEL BECAUSE THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR POWER AND RULE OVER IGNORANT UNSUSPECTING , ILLITERATE, POOR AND UNEDUCATED RELIGIOUSLY ENTICED POPULATION. TELL A LIE OFTEN ENOUGH AND MOST WILL END UP BELIEVING IT. the reason why arab regimes do not want normalization is because all their propaganda and lies will be discovered by their population once the borders are open and movement of ideas and people that will be exposed to the real beauty and freedom in israel for both israelis and its arab population finally comes out to the open. this is a REAL FEAR OF THOSE ARAB LEADERS AND THE ARAB LEAGUE. THEY WILL DO ANYTHING, FIND ANY STUPID EXCUSE TO NOT NORMALIZE WITH ISRAEL. SETTLEMENTS IS BUT ONE EXCUSE BECAUSE THEY REALLY, COLLECTIVELY, DO NOT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT PALESTINIANS AND THEIR CAUSE AND HAVE ALWAYS USED THESE POOR SOULS AS EITHER PROPAGANDA OR CANNON FODDER BECAUSE THESE REGIMES WERE TOO WEAK TO DEFEAT ISRAEL MILITARILY AND SO THEY INCARCERATED A WHOLE PALESTINIAN POPULATION INTO REFUGEE CAMPS, KILLED THEM, TREATED THEM LIKE ANIMALS, NEVER RECOGNIZED THESE PEOPLE THEMSELVES, ABUSED THEM AND BASICALLY EMPLOYED THEM TO DO THE DIRTY TERROR WORK FOR THESE REGIMES BECAUSE THESE REGIMES WERE HOPELESS AGAINST WINNING BY FORCE AND WAR AGAINST ISRAEL. HAMEED ABOUGHAZE IRANIAN
2. Normalization
Nili ,   Jerusalem   (07.27.09)
Its a shame that Mitchell and his cronies don't take the time to read the constitutions of the arab countries. They state quite clearly that they will never let Israel exist. They will use any means possible--even and old fool like Mitchell and a Narcissist like obummer.
3. Israeli-Arab relations
Grant Thomas ,   Brookfield, WI, USA   (07.27.09)
Are the Western powers actually so dumb that they don't know that this is not an Arab problem but rather an Islam one? Islam teachings can NEVER accept Israel to exist on land the Muslims believe belongs to Allah. It is sheer lunacy to do anything but draw a line in the sand, and tell them it's a fight to the death. Sadly, the West appears to be losing ground to the Muslims and they will take over Europe in the foreseeable future...unless Jesus returns first.
4. Before normalization, shouldn't the Arabs recognize Israel's
Amihai ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (07.27.09)
right to be, to exist as the nation-state of the Jewish people, and this is based on UN resolutions...??
5. Serious constipation
No round of efforts ,   IL   (07.27.09)
Mitchell can start all the rounds of efforts for "normality" when visiting Israel, but there's no normality with these Arab countries sourrounding us-
6. talks??
alan ,   Texas   (07.27.09)
Mitchel is now going to talk to the arabs, just as obama talked to the arabs. are they both fools?
7. Why is it so difficult for Mitchell to insist that the Arabs
Nahum ,   Haifa, Israel   (07.27.09)
simply recognize Israel's right to exist? After all, their refusal to accept it has been the cause of the Arab Israeli conflict. Their eagerness to eradicate Israel from this region has been the cause of all the wars so far. So why not ask these Arabs to simply accept UN resolution that in principle called for the establishment of a Jewish state in the country? Why not ask them that they accept the UN resolution that accepted Israel as a member state in good standing into the UN as a Jewish state? Evading this very question has been at the heart of all the failures so far in trying to bridge between Israel and its Arab neighbors; indeed, this has been the reason why the Palestinian Arabs have not been willing to reach an accommodation with Israel to this day.
8. Normalization
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (07.27.09)
As #3 points out "normalization" under the Arab/Islamic definition means that Israel is under Arab rule and the few Jews that are not massacred are dhimmi. Have a look at Yemen to see how Jews are "normalized"
9. US getting nothing from Arabs, gives anyway
Raymond in DC ,   Washington, USA   (07.27.09)
After more than six months of outreach to the Arab and Muslim world, after speeches in Istanbul and Cairo, and despite ongoing pressure on Israel to show how "even handed" the US has become, the US has gotten from them exactly nothing. So, rather than consider that this is a losing strategy, the US has decided to, as gamblers say, "double down". Though Syria has not changed its ways in the slightest,, this morning it was announced that the US is dropping restrictions on aircraft parts and computer technology. Indeed, what incentive do Israel's neighbors have to change, when they get what they want by simply standing firm?
10. FOOL AND IDIOT !!!.
ORAO STRANKA. ,   TSARIGRAD U SRBIA.   (07.27.09)
Arab League chief Moussa: No Arab steps before settlement building halted THAT IS TO SAY - STOP THE WILL OF JEHOWAH REGARDING ISRAEL - Isaiah 54 1"Sing, O barren, thou that didst not bear! Break forth into singing and cry aloud, thou that didst not travail with child! For more are the children of the desolate than the children of the married wife," saith the LORD. 2Enlarge the place of thy tent, and let them stretch forth the curtains of thine habitations; spare not, lengthen thy cords, and strengthen thy stakes. 3For thou shalt break forth on the right hand and on the left, and thy seed shall inherit the Gentiles, and make the desolate cities to be inhabited. FURTHER - Arab League chief Amr Moussa said after meeting with Mitchell "the Arabs will not take any step of normalization as a sacrifice for Israel." THE ARAB PERSONALITY - 12And he will be a wild man. His hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him FROM - GENESIS 16. 11And the angel of the LORD said unto her, "Behold, thou art with child, and shalt bear a son and shalt call his name Ishmael [that is, God shall hear], because the LORD hath heard thy affliction. 12And he will be a wild man. His hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. -THAT IS TO SAY - HOSTILE AGAINST ALL OF MANKIND. Orao.
11. I am always amazed at the naivete Americans, even in high
Bernard ,   Bern, Switzerland   (07.27.09)
position, demonstrate at how people in the rest of the world think. The Arabs or more precisely Muslim-Arabs (not Christian-Arabs, not Druze-Arabs, etc. all of whom have suffered at the hand of the Muslim-Arabs over the centuries) would never normalize relationships with Israel because Israel is neither Muslim nor Arab and therefore, from their perspective, has no right to exist in the Muslim sphere of influence. Therefore, Mitchell should demand that they accept relevant UN resolutions such as 181, 273 and 242 so as to at least indirectly show good will towards Israel.
12. NO PEACE IN 4000 YRS. THE ONLY ONE THAT CAN BRING PEACE....
.......DACON9   (07.27.09)
NO PEACE IN 4000 YRS. ONLY ONE THAT CAN BRING PEACE...... IS JACKIE CHAN chop chop OR MASHIACH...
13. WHAT NEXT:
avi   (07.27.09)
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/07/24/Report-details-future-Palestinian-state/UPI-62801248435038/
14. Sure wright,the only problem is you dont
Eric.... ,   Israel....   (07.27.09)
who your dealing with pal.
15. Why didn't they use a picture of mitchell
jason white ,   afula,israel   (07.27.09)
when he was alive. Looks like a zombie.
16. Jesus did say that they would say peace,peace. And then des-
truction would come ,   suddenly.   (07.27.09)
17. NO to Mitchell's Crap
Brod ,   USA   (07.27.09)
Israel should say NO to Mitchell's crap. Mitchell has been deceived by the Islamist-Jihadist world to fool Israel. It is time to stop this nonsense. Why should Israel ethnically cleanse its own people living in Israel's liberated historic and biblical homeland of Judea and Samaria? Israel can tell the world of AntiSemites and Islamist-Jihadists to go to HELL!
18. World Opinion Means Nothing
Dan ,   Titusville, FL USA   (07.27.09)
For generations we have made accomodations with one oppressor or another. the results were always the same but each time more horrendous in the mechanisms. After WWII we crawled out of the crematoriums and built a strong State for ourselves where we could chart our own futures and those that want to kill us could never be successful anymore. Now comes Obama, a false Messiah, who wants us to accomdate the Arabs so that he can "make his bones" in the history books but we will suffer with an even greater mechanism of destruction - Nuclear Weapons. Obama wants Israel to disappear, that is now abundantly clear. Deport Mitchell to negotiate with the Arab Muslims to make them put down their weapons and never allow him back in Israel.
19. HAMEED ABOUGHAZE Dear Friend #1, I can compromise
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (07.27.09)
As you, I too know that freezing settlements will do nothing. However to take the American Administration off of our back I want to propose the following: Israel is offering to freeze settlements for 3 months to allow Arb countries to prepare/brainwash own population for establishing diplomatic relationships with Israel. If such preparations are satisfactory to Israel, then another 3 month freeze of settlements during which 5 new Arb embassies, including F, Arbia, must open in Jerusalem the eternal capital of Israel the Jewish State. If this happens another 3 month freeze for another 5 Arb embassies to open in Jerusalem and so on, then demand that all other Muslim countries open embassies in Jerusalem This puts the ball back in Arb court and we all know what will really happen or not happen By the time this process is over B. Hussein will be embroiled in so many other scandals that all this will be forgotten. Thank you for your support and I want you to know that I am a strong supporter of the true Iranian people and do everything in my power, knowledge and experience to arm the resistance to the Mullahs and to convince other Iranians of this need. I have been doing this for the last 10 years.
20. Normalization will come
Marco ,   Spain   (07.27.09)
When hell freezes over, if all settelments are not dismantelled and if the right of Palestinians to return to their homeland in Palestine is not guaranteed.
21. When hell freezes over.........
JC ,   DC USA   (07.27.09)
the Arabs will normalize with Israel. And that's not gonna happen. It doesn't matter what Israel does.
22. Marco @ 20; Your likes are perfect excuse for settlements.
leo ,   USA   (07.27.09)
23. Normalization will come when independent Catalon and Basque
El Puerco Marco,Puta ,   MadreImperio EspaƱol   (07.27.09)
countries will be realized.
24. Amr Moussa seems to forget
Alex B. ,   Toronro, Canada   (07.27.09)
that the Arab League are in no position to dictate to Israel, nor are they doing anyone favours. No normalization, no problem. It's been like this for decades and Israel has flourished, while the Arabs have been living in terrible conditions despite all their outrageous oil revenues.
25. Arab-Israeli normalization
dlh ,   world jew no state   (07.27.09)
why are we paying for all these bums to travel back and forth to israel were every word they let out of there mouth are just lies
26. This American regime is even more deluded than others
Gee ,   Zikron Yaakov   (07.27.09)
The Arabs will never normalize with us, they are too racist.
27. You're using the stick against Israel. Use it on them too.
Zvi   (07.27.09)
28. #20..MARCO.. ESPANA....LET'S COMPROMISE
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (08.02.09)
THERE IS A COMPROMISE THAT I PROPOSE TO MARCO AND THE OTHER "MARCOS" IN THE WORLD, BUT HE MAY NOT LIKE IT.......... HERE IT IS ! THERE MUST BE A FULL RECOGNITION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE BASQUE PEOPLE AND THEIR INDEPENDENCE FROM SPAIN, AND THE FULL FREEDOM TO THEIR BASQUE HOMELAND. ALL BASQUES TO BE ALLOWED TO RETURN TO THEIR HOMELAND, ALSO FOR THE CATALON PEOPLE. ETA AND IT'S THE LEADERSHIP TO BE RECOGNISED AS LEGITIMATE FREEDOM FIGHTERS AGAINST SPANISH INQUISTION AND OPPRESION. AS TO HELL FREEZING OVER MARCO..............LET US AGREE THAT HELL CAN FREEZE OVER AND IN RETURN THAT THE PAL-ARAB FOREIGNERS DO NOT COME TO THE JEWISH HOMELAND, ISRAEL, IN ANY VAIN ATTEMPT TO STEAL WHAT IS NOT THEIR'S TO STEAL............... PAL-ARAB INTERLOPERS, PAL-ARAB FOREIGNERS WILL NOT COME TO ISRAEL ..... THE TRUE HOMELAND OF THE ISRAELI PEOPLE................. THE PAL-ARAB INTERLOPERS CANNOT CLAIM TO "RETURN" TO A HOMELAND THAT NEVER EVER EXISTED IN ACTUAL HISTORY, NOR WAS THERE IN REAL HISTORY ANY PAL-ARAB SEMBLENCE OF "STATE". THIS IS CONSIDERED A DEAL MARCO............... UNLESS YOU CAN GIVE YNET READERS THE NAMES OF 25 OF THE MOST BRILLIANT PAL-ARAB-MUSLIM NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS AND THEIR SPECIFIC CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE BETTERMENT OF MANKIND. AND THE WORLD. THERE SHOULD BE AT LEAST 25 NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS WITHIN THE PAL-ARAB-MUSLIM POPULATION BEING OVER ONE BILLION PEOPLE. BUT AS WE WELL KNOW. THERE ARE NO SUCH 25 NOBEL WINNERS WHO ARE PAL-ARAB-MUSLIM. IT WOULD BE THOUGHT THAT SINCE THE PAL-ARABS HAD SUCH A " GREAT ILLUSTRIOUS THRIVING HOMELAND " TO RETURN TO, THAT THEY MUST HAVE HAD SUCH GLORIOUS AHIEVEMENTS. OUT OF ALL THE PAL-ARAB- MUSLIMS, WHICH IS OVER ONE BILLION, THERE ARE PERHAPS 5 OR 6 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNERS. OUT OF ABOUT 20 MILLION JEWS, ISRAELIS IN THE WORLD, THE JEWS, ISRAELIS PRODUCED OVER 160 NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WINNERS. THIS IS QUITE EMBARASSING TO THE PAL-ARAB-MUSLIM WORLD AND VERY SHAMEFULL. IN THE PAL-ARAB-MUSLIM CONFLICT AGAINST THE JEWS AND ISRAEL, ONE PREVAILING THEME IS EVIDENT THE PAL-ARAB- MUSLIM WORLD DESIRES WHAT THEY THEMSELVES NEVER HAD, AND COULD NOT ACHIEVE. THEY CLAIM A PAL-ARAB-MUSLIM "HOMELAND" WHICH NEVER WAS THEIR'S AND THEY ATTEMPT TO STEAL IT FROM THE JEWS AND ISRAEL . ISRAEL IS THE JEWISH HOMELAND AND THE PAL-ARAB-MUSLIMS REJECT THIS, AND YET THEY COVET IT. THE SUCCESS AND ACHIEVEMENTS OF THE JEWISH STATE OF ISRAEL ARE SO IMMENSE, AND SO AWE INSPIRING......... THIS IS WHY THEY WANT IT SO INTENSELY.
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