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Minister Katz: Fatah's draft platform a declaration of war
Roni Sofer
Published: 02.08.09, 13:06
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1. Once Palestine is Free, Jews can live in peace in Palestine
Palestinian ,   Jerusalem, Palestine   (08.02.09)
2. he is right, the international law
ghostq   (08.02.09)
claim jews have state in Israel, palis don't respect the international law, it's an old law that was legislated in 1947 by democratice votes, meaning that they want to conquer it, other wise they won't have any problem respecting the law and declair it as jewish state. and for braking international law and turn to violence they deserve to be in prison witch they r, haaaaa sweet karma.
3. Oh Ye of little faith
Jim G ,   Oregon USA   (08.02.09)
Do you not believe that the one who keeps Israel neither sleeps nor slumbers? The Lord God of Israel is in control of everything that is happening in Israel and He knows your immediate future. Ezekiel 38-39 by the looks of it are on your horizon, so gird your loins and strap those boots up because here it comes...
4. to #1 lol the riot's in the 30's proven otherwise
ghostq   (08.02.09)
muslims don't like jews, muslims don't like Chritians, muslims like only muslims, past history proven that, I personal saw a interview from 80 year old woman who told her life story, how muslims killed her family and robed her house in Jerusalem. so in other words go to Jordan there you will be at home.
5. We have no problem with Juice..or anything sound like that !
Vegetarian ,   Savana, Africa   (08.02.09)
6. 1967 and Fatah: It's called "NO"
DT ,   TA Israel   (08.02.09)
Hasn't anyone ever heard of the words "No whatever the price". Somewhere someone justy has to have a scoop of courage in the government to say it and act accordingly. No recognition, no state and never any "right" of return. Take it or leave it.
7. otherwise ethiopia poland russia ukraine (europe)
(08.02.09)
8. # 1: Just like in Pakistan?
Azi ,   Oslo, Norway   (08.02.09)
Are you trying to imply that the jews can live peacefully in a muslimstate? Just like the christians that just got killed in the city of Gojra in the retarded islamic third-world nation Pakistan? Muslims killed 6 persons (3 women and 1 child) by burning them alive. The muslims also burned down 40 homes and 1 church. There is no place for jews, christians and non-believers in a muslim state...
9. there is an old saying....
normal ,   Beersheva, Israel   (08.02.09)
"don't expect to be recognized by someone if you're not willing to recognize others." to #1, that wish isn't likely, but if you want to come and implenet it by force, by all means, do try. but don't cry later if you fail and get you ass kicked to the moon.
10. #1 Jews can live in peace in Palestine
Bernie ,   formerly of Seattle   (08.02.09)
Like in Jordan? Like in Saudi Arabia? Like in Kuwait? Like in UAE? Like in Ramallah? Like in Jerico? Like in Bethlehem? You Muslims don't even let Christians live there !!!!!!! You didn't even let American Soldiers who were defending Kuwait on Saudi soil with a Cross or a Bible! How will the Arabs let Jews live in their country as Dhimmis who pay Jizha ?
11. Pals offer choice of 1 Pal state or 2 Pal states
Sam ,   Canada   (08.02.09)
If Israel freezes settlement building then the Palestinians will offer Israel 2 Palestinian Muslim states.(not Jewish and Palestinian ones) Otherwise, the Palestinians will demand that the whole territory be just one Palestinian Muslim state. Is this not a wonderful reason for Israel to freeze settlements? Do Western and Jewish appeasers get it? There is nothing Jews can do for peace if the Palestinians insist on Muslim states only.
12. Islamist-Jihadist terrorist organization
Brod ,   USA   (08.02.09)
It is obvious that the intention of Fatahan Islamist-Jihadist terrorist organization is the destruction of Israel. Their Charter spells it out clearly. Through subtlety, trickery, the use deceptions and manipulations of the world, they fool and manipulate the world into pressuring Israel to give up its liberated Land of Israel of Judea, Samaria and its capital-city Jerusalem to them. This day light robbery by them on the Land of Israel by way of brainwashing the world with their crap and manipulating the world to do their dirty work of crusading their Jihadism on Israel. Israel should regard them as number one enemy. Behind them are the Chief Sponsors of Islamist-Jihadist terrorism around the world-Wahhabhist Saudi Arabia and its counterpart Ayatollahist Iran. The Obama administration should change course by pressing these dark forces to reform rather than pressing Israel. Should the Obama adminisration continue to press Israel, they will only undermine America's national security interests in the region. It is time the Republican and Congress speak up in opposition to the dangerous move by the Obama administration in cowing to Islamist-Jihadism-America's number one enemy in the world. The latter's naivete' and appeasement will erode America's national security interests and influence not just in the region but the world.
13. No Open Skies
(08.02.09)
SA will never allow Israeli planes overhead for the simple reasons of they don't trust jews, and they don't like them either!
14. The Irony in Kats' Allegations
Nour ,   Palestine   (08.02.09)
It was Israel that already waged war on Palestinians by killing the 2-state solution and refusing to honor past agreements. It has continued to build settlements on Palestinian land and is defying the whole international community. The PLO and PA have recognized Israel and this is more than enough. Putting sticks in the spanner has only one aim: To torpedo the diplomatic process and somehow enforce a joke of a settlement on Palestine. This has failed, and will continue to fail. Foreign intervention is necessary.
15. Where has the Trans. Minister been since 1964?
Steve   (08.02.09)
"The draft version is a declaration of war against Israel?" Fatah / PLO has been at war with Israel since its inception. It's just that Israel's Jews have been in massive denial. Has Mr. Katz heard of the PLO's / Fatah's "Phased Plan?" Netanyahu wrote of it in his book, "Fighting Terrorism." "According to the Phased Plan, the PLO would at first establish its 'state of Palestine' on any territory which 'would be evacuated by the Zionist enemy'. This new Arab state would align itself with other 'confrontation states' and prepare for the second stage - the eradication of Israel in a renewed onslaught." (Fighting Terrorism by Benjamin Netanyahu, page 101) Now that Fatah jidadists have a champion in the White House, they can come out more openly and forthrightly with respect to their goals which are no different than those of Hamas jihadist. It's just that Hamas jihadists are honest about their goals. Thus Hamas are much better and more honorable Muslims than are Fatah jihadists. Fatah jihadists will have the full backing of US. President B. Hussein. After all, who else can he turn to?
16. right with you #6
ari   (08.02.09)
17. #4, #8, #10 you misunderstood
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (08.02.09)
You guys misunderstood #1. He is saying that once "Palestine" is free of the Arab colonists, Jews can live in peace. This is an extreme opinion, but he has a right to express it.
18. 8. Do the Maths You killed 1400 defenceless Palestinians
lydia ,   Brisbane   (08.02.09)
19. Better that the Arabs (formally) keep their skies closed.
Steve   (08.02.09)
Let the Arabs keep their skies closed to Jewish air-traffic. What Israel does in the event of war with respect to Arab air-space is another matter. Should Israel (and I pray she does) attack Iran's nuclear installations, IAF will fly over at least parts of Arab airspace. The Arabs will thank Israel (under their breath) for destabilizing the Iranian threat afterwards. Let Arabs (formally) keep their airspace closed to Israeli air traffic and we will keep our land. Better to be in a "state of war" with our enemies WITH our land than in a phony state of "peace" without our land.
20. Israel failure to recog its own unilateral declared borders
lydia ,   Brisbane   (08.02.09)
Is the problem. Now Israel wants Arab recognition. Israel is the neighborhood thug and will be so only until the US wakes up and cut the umbilical cord.
21. Iran Can Have Them
Bill Foonman ,   Jacksonville, USA   (08.02.09)
The Palestinians are a lost cause. They have never made a strategically smart decision in their existence. Watch them create an alliance with Iran just as Iran throws out the Theocratic Thieves and dumps Hamas, Hezbollah etc. The Iranians are Persians - not Arabs - and have little time for the Arabs and especially the Palestinians whom, like just about everyone else, they consider as dysfunctional troublemakers.
22. #18 Well, there should be more room for them to spread out
with 1400 less yeah? ,   Bring out the Barbie   (08.02.09)
23. #14 International community wants Palestinian+Jewish states
Sam ,   Canada   (08.02.09)
The Americans are mediating between Palestinians and Israel with the intention of getting a Jewish state and a Palestinian state. That is why they are pushing for a freeze of settlements. That is what the international community wants. What the Palestinians recognize is an Israel that MUST accept a flood of Palestinians plus another Palestinian state on the West Bank. Palestinians try to deceive the world on their intentions in Israel proper because they know it is easier to sell the world on getting rid of Jews first in the West Bank.
24. Don't expect anything in return
Artyom   (08.02.09)
As long as there is not recognition of Israel, they cannot really expect to get anything in return. What Israel won in '67 it won with hard work and blood. Don't expect to get it back. As for "right of return", I may give it to Xtian or Druzim, but not the rest who have been trying to destroy Israel. We want those who come with the purpose of furthering peace and Israel.
25. Sam #23: Why should US meddliate in Israel's affairs?
Steve   (08.02.09)
How do you think the Americas would feel if we mediated (i.e., like the US is doing, meddled) in internal US affairs? What if we took it upon ourselves to mediate a state in the Dakotas for the Lakota Sioux Indians? "Originally, the US government signed a treaty with the Sioux exempting the Black Hills from all white settlement forever. The Sioux consider the Black Hills region to be sacred ground. However, in 1864, General George Armstrong Custer's expedition discovered gold in the Black Hills and the US government broke its treaties with the local Indians.....In 1980, the United States Supreme Court ruled that the US government had illegally confiscated the Black Hills from the Sioux, and awarded the tribe $122 million in damages and accrued interest. The Sioux, living in some of the poorest communities in the U S, declined the money. They declared that they want their sacred lands returned." How about we mediate between the US and Mexico for the return of Texas and Califorinia to Mexico? How about if we mediate between the US and Cherokee nation for the return of Georgia, North and South Carolina, etc.? Sam, you seem to like mediation and meddling in other nation's internal affairs. You seem to like giving other people's lands to peoples who do not deserve them. Who were the aboringinal inhabitants of Canada?
26. #20: Cut the umbilical cord.
(08.02.09)
Throughout the 1950s, the US imposed a punitive arms embargo on Israel. There was no umbilical cord then. Somehow or another Israel managed to survive. Cutting the umbilical cord might be a good thing for both the US and for Israel. Americans occupy American Indian, Mexican and Spanish land. Why aren't you demanding the Americans return all these lands that were expropriated from their former inhabitants? Why just Israel? What right do the nations (many of whom conquered lands on which they reside) have lecturing tiny Israel, which is surrounded by Arab and Muslim enemies who are dedicated to her annihilation? Do you advocate the nations putting a military coalition together - as was done against Serbia and Iraq - against Israel?
27. only one way to live in peace
alan ,   Texas   (08.02.09)
Wipe out the terrorists and terrorist infrastructure of Hamas and Fatah and change educational system to teach peace, democracy and Judaism. Eventually the arabs will learn to live like civilized human beings.
28. #27 Eventually the arabs will learn to live like civilized h
Mongo ,   Paris   (08.02.09)
I agree witrh your theoretical point of view. However, reality is altogether different. Some Arabs are decent but their political vocation makes it impossible to ever make peace. Better to maiontain current status quo. Making an artificial peace will only makes things worse. For Arabs to "learn to live like civilized human beings", we may have to wait several centuries. How long did it take for Neanderthals to develop into Homo Sapiens?
29. #25 Most Jews welcome fair American mediation
Sam ,   Canada   (08.02.09)
Most Jews and most Israelis would prefer not spending their whole lives fighting for territory and welcome fair American mediation. As it is clear that Palestinians want to get rid of the Jewish state, I have no problem with Jews turning the table and settling biblical Israel. However, a GENUINE and ACCEPTABLE 2 state solution of a Jewish state and Palestinian state is still the first choice of most Israelis.
30. Oslo was a HUGE mistake! Bringing terrorists into Israel
OSLO IS DEAD   (08.02.09)
is criminal.
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