News
Poll: 77% of 'Soviet' olim support Arab transfer
Ynet
Published: 03.08.09, 14:35
Comment Comment
Print comment Print comment
Back to article
34 Talkbacks for this article
1. No-one is stopping the Russians from leaving
Israel   (08.03.09)
Hell, I'd even give them a lift to the airport.
2. 98.7 % of Christian Zionists do also
Marcel ,   Florida   (08.03.09)
The other 1.3 % are on dangerous mind altering drugs prescribed by their doctors and suffer confusion as much of Israel does. The main lesson Israel continues to miss is 'failure' due to it's religious devotion to their false idol in it's quest for peace without HaShem. If you had listened to G-d instead of the demi-god Bush you would have never left Gush Katif. ,you would have finished the job in Lebanon and Gaza. You made a poor choice of god's to follow. Your choice condemns you Israel. For too long Israel has acted like a cripple totally dependant on her false god America Babylon for survival.The one you ran to for peace has brought you everything but peace. It's past time to start walking like a grown man with faith in the One you have ignored for so long. Israel is never alone whe she looks to her Creator.
3. 77% of Soviet olim support Arab transfer
Talula ,   Israel   (08.03.09)
And, in contrast, I'm sure that 77% of Israelis would like the Russians to be transfered back to Russia. But, we can't always get what we want.
4. why is this news?
(08.03.09)
95% of Meretz, Labor and Kadima voters support transfer of Jews.
5. With all the terrorism Arabs commit, who can blame Israel
Ken Jurist   (08.03.09)
People wake up to the fact, Kahane was the only Israeli leader with backbone. Please dont think Kahane was a racist. If the Arabs had the chance, they would kick out all the Jews from Israel. Go to Pal Media Watch and read the Palestinian leaders statements over the years. From Faisal Husseini saying Oslo was a Trogan Horse, Arafat's stages policy, the muftis calling on Arabs to kill Jews everywhere.
6. IMMIGRANTS NOT BRAINWASHED YET BY MEDIA
SERGIO ,   ITALIA   (08.03.09)
and put Jewish survival FIRST!
7. #1 and #3 stop sin'at hinam
Tahl ,   Ashdod, Israel   (08.03.09)
A mere two days ago, two Jews were murdered for sin'at hinam, or senseless hate, right after Tisha B'av. If you have disagreements with fellow Jews, you may resolve them by debating, but the sin'at hinam you display here for the Jews of Russian descent, is uncalled for. All Jews - secular and religious, right and left wing, Russian and Moroccan, gay and straight - and should learn to respect and live in harmony with one another.
8. Palestinians want the Jews of 1901 to stay in Palestine
Palestinian   (08.03.09)
9. Right here in black and white, except
5th generation ,   Israel-stan   (08.03.09)
they didn't ask the big question, which is how many ex-Soviets want veteran Israelis out. Probably also 77%.
10. #1 and 3# Disgusting comments by stupid people
ezra ,   canada   (08.03.09)
11. #7 Take a breath
Talula ,   Israel   (08.03.09)
I believe we've discussed this before. I don't HATE the Russians (well, yeah actually I do, a little bit). But anyway, there’s nothing to resolve with them. I can't work out a fundamental flaw in their nature now, can I? No! - I can't. I’m saying we are so different, they behave as though they are so deserving of everything – it’s nauseating. What I can do however, is simply ignore them or wish they would go away. So, once again, from the top: not racist, no murder involved here, simply a dislike of a certain people. The Brits hate the French, so are they all racist as well? NO!!
12. immigrants
Lisa   (08.03.09)
more recent immigrants in every country are more radical and less forgiving than established immigrants and citizens- this is not unique to Israel. In addition to this Israel also has a problem with too many immigrants from the same part of the world- integrating immigrants is a major and vital undertaking to unity.This is convincing immigrants to learn the local language as quickly as possible by giving free language and culture lessons-. security issues are also crucial- immigrants many times come from countries were safety is compromised by racism or religious persecution.
13. Russian Jews:
Robert Haymond ,   Ashdod, Israel   (08.03.09)
Speaking of the recent influx of post-communist Russian Jews into Israel, we are very lucky to have them. They quickly became adapted to Israel, struggling to buy an apartment while whole families resided together, then another and another. They built small businesses, working hard to see them grow. They attended ulpans, learned Hebrew quickly and became educated in our ways. A surprisingly high number have gone on to university. They make up a significant number of our professional classes, i.e., physicians, computer experts, nurses, engineers. Of course they'll be knocked by longtime Israelis for being involved in criminal activities but, then, we have our own, homegrown, variety at the top of the heap. Russian Jewish youth always join the military and make committed soldiers, many graduating to officer status. They are very health conscious and you can find a strong contingent of Russian Jewish adults at any public gym. I am grateful that they've immigrated to Israel and note that they've already contributed so much to the country in such a short time. The current Talkback and others which I have seen signify the kind of prejudices which Russian Jews have had to put up with -- therefore the emergence of the political party, Yisrael Beiteinu.
14. 1, 3, 11
Felix ,   Toronto/Tel Aviv   (08.03.09)
As a Russian Jew i can comment as follows: it is these kinds of general statements that plant the seeds of hate. No single segment of Israeli society is perfect. Flaws can be attributed to sabras, Russians, Morrocans etc. So what? When you dislike a person, or even a group, it requires quite a leap of irrationality to dislike the entire ethnic group or a nation.How to you think anti-semitism works? You are a perfect example of how. Look at yourself in the mirror first. Besides, what a childish comment: the Brits hate the French. ALL Brits and ALL French? Grow up
15. #11
Russian   (08.03.09)
Well I'm Russian, you've never met me - yet you already hate me? You realize that without us Russians, Hitler would have conquered all of Europe and would have killed all the rest of the Jews. My people have lost 25 million people in WWII. During the siege of Leningrad alone, more Russians died than combined British and US casualties for the entire war combined. My own family lost pretty much all the male family members. Glad to see that grateful descendants (such as yourself) of people who suffered in those times are alive and breathing. I must tell you, if it came down to it again where you needed saving - I'd strongly consider not lifting a finger.
16. TO #6: CORRECT! IMMIGRANTS WONT BE BRAINWASHED BY MEDIA LIES
!   (08.03.09)
17. So basically KAHANA was RIGHT all along/
Cant mix oil and ,   water!   (08.03.09)
18. #11 hate?
Lisa   (08.03.09)
Talulah: attitudes like yours are part of the problem - the Brits hate the French? The Europeans hate the Americans, hate the Arabs, hate the Israelis- see- this is wrong. What gives one person the right to speak for entire nations of people? In every nation there are bigots and racists- it does not mean an entire country is racist-. Give people some credit. It the French were attacked, the Brits would fight with the French- they have in the past. The Americans and Europeans fight together against common enemies-. There are too many rash statements in TBs- . So YOU hate Russians- too bad, live with it. Many Israelis do not hate the Russians, why did Israel encourage Russians to immigrate? All I am hearing in TBs ; 'make Aliah come to Israel!? What for- so they can be hated later? Russians are different? I thought you were all Jews? Your own statements do not make sense at all- . You don't like Russians, many people do not like Israelis either- and what do YOU call them? Yes, I know- learn from it, LOL
19. #14 thank you Felix- right on!
Lisa   (08.03.09)
good argument- I agree with you 100%
20. Too much hatread in Israel (and middleast)
Rami of Nazareth ,   Israel   (08.03.09)
So sad to see how much hatread is going around.
21. I wonder how they feel about black jews and Haridi jews
Rami od Nazareth ,   Israel   (08.03.09)
23. God Bless the Russian Jews!
Harry ,   USA   (08.03.09)
24. Russian immigrants have it worse than most arabs. They have
jae ,   Jerusalem Israel   (08.03.09)
fewer rights and less power. they are in peripheral communities subject to veteran israel security decisions to allow 10,000 hamas missiles to rain down on them. unemployment is 5-10%, etc. I am in favor of: paying non loyal arabs to immigrate. requiring national service of everyone jew and arab. making national service sensitive to gender and religious needs- seperation of teenage men and women in army, prayers, kashrut, shabbat, torah study. implementing capital punishment. we dont need to model oursloeves after sweden or cambridge, massachusetts, we can take the best of the west and the east.
25. just made their alya, and they tell who should stay?!
me ,   Israel   (08.03.09)
This is not white russia...racists!
26. This is well known without poll
George ,   Canada   (08.03.09)
No surprise, this is well known without poll. Russian Jews are the product of the previous totalitarian regime of the Soviet Union, they are raised and inspired by the live style of the Sovdep and Gulag mentality .They were discriminated against at that time in Russia and this feeling of hatred is carried over with them to Israel and transferred against Palestinian and Arabs in general .They know only one thing, eliminate, kill and transfer the Palestinians. They carried with them as well the Russian Mafia work style to Israel and most of the rich business men have criminal background and gangster incorporated. The majorities of the oligarch are wanted to Russian police and have pending courts lawsuit as”Vory v zakone” .Geudak and Liberman are just couple examples.
27. #8 - What's the Palestinian's name?
William ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
Because the rest of the Palestinians, including their leaders in Fatah and Hamas, have indicated that NO Jews should remain....even those who reside on legally purchased property and those who residing in the region for centuries. Maybe this one Pal didn't get the latest memo from the PLO.
28. #8 - Great, and Jews want Arabs of 1930s to leave
William ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
That should take care of 70% of Israeli Arabs and all of the so-called Palestinian refugees.
29. #25 - As citizens, they have more rights than outsider TB'er
William ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
"just made their alya, and they tell who should stay?!" Yet, Israelis like yourself bow before the porcelain bowl that is Obama and wait for his opinion. The UN and Eu only need to speak threats, and the recrimination of Israel comes from those who jump on the bandwagon. These new Olim have every right to their opinion as does any Sabra....and so much more so than external elements which seem to always have problems with Israel, and people like you rush to appease.
30. #14 You don't even live here - so hush up
Talula ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
Next talkbacks
Back to article