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Abbas at Fatah congress: Jerusalem promised to us
Ali Waked
Published: 04.08.09, 10:39
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1. In the name of Jerusalem, eh?
Sarah B ,   New York City, USA   (08.04.09)
What rubbish! Jerusalem never meant anything to Palestinian Arabs. It was a dark and dank backwater of the Ottoman Empire, and ignored by everyone except Jews, who have always returned to it and restored it. Jews have prayed for the peace of Jerusalem for several millennia. During the Passover seder, we recite "Next year in Jerusalem." We turn towards Jerusalem when we pray. One of the chief problems that the Palestinians have is that they are trying to co-opt someone else's history. Mine, to be precise. Jewish history. The fact of the matter is that most so-called "Palestinians" were relocated there from the Balkans because they caused endless amounts of discord in an area that has always had a delicate balance and the Ottoman Turks shipped them off to the must dismal part of the Empire. Mark Twain wrote a wonderful essay following his trip to Palestine. "Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes." The Arabs -- Christian, Moslem -- have never loved Jerusalem and did nothing to improve the region in any event. Raw sewage in the streets, rampant cholera, desert to the south and swamps in the north ..... it wasn't until the Jews came and made it a fertile and verdant and disease-free place that the Palestinians decided it was their "birthright." It isn't. The more the Palestinians try and reinvent their history, the deeper in the mud they will be. Sixty-one years have taught them nothing. "In the name of Jerusalem ...." -- what utter nonsense.
2. Do we get a summary of the meeting?
Talula ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
3. "We were promised Jerusalem" ?
israel   (08.04.09)
Uh oh!! I don't THINK so!
4. JERUSALEM !!! NO LONGER JUST ARAB EAST JERUSALEM
dmgold ,   Pardes Channa Israel   (08.04.09)
the claims are growing, Abbas now claims JERUSALEM, no longer satisfied with the so called Arab East Jerusalem. I can now see why BiBi gave safe passage to all these Fatah people, he has given them enough rope to hang themselves. Obama is green and hasnt got a clue, this fatah conference will unite Israeli Jews from the full spectrum against the US/EU mindless persuit of the so called PEACE PROCESS
5. Jerusalem, the land of Ascencion of Mohammed
Nour ,   Palestine   (08.04.09)
Arabs' connection to Jerusalem is not only well rooted in the Quran and Hadith, but they've kept a majority there since millenia! Idiots such as Sarah are ignorant that Mohammed (pbuh) ascended to Heaven from Jerusalem. She is obviously lacking in culture and is devoid of any historical knowledge. Sterile, colorless North American she is who thinks the history of the Middle East started and ended with the Jews. Here's the Arab and Muslim account of why Jerusalem will always be an integral part of Jerusalem (which was the first of the Qiblas, even preceding Mecca and Medina!!) The Isra began with Muhammad resting in the Kaaba in Mecca, when archangel Gabriel comes to him, and bring him the wing steed Buraq, the traditional lightning steed of the prophets. The Buraq then carried Muhammad to the "Masjid Al Aqsa", which according to Muhammad, reported in Hadith by several narrators, equates with "the Noble Sanctuary" (Temple Mount) in Jerusalem. Muhammad alights, tethers Buraq, and leads the other prophets of Abrahamic descent in prayer. He then re-mounts Buraq, and in the second part of the journey, the Mi'raj, is taken to the heavens, where he tours the circles of heaven, and speaks with the earlier prophets such as Abraham, Moses, and Jesus, and then is taken by Gabriel to Allah.
6. My return home: Unnegotiable, indeed
Nour ,   Palestine   (08.04.09)
What's six decades in the eternal scheme of things in the holy land? The answer is a square nothing. We shall return home because it's our internationally sancioned human right. Punto final.
7. Abbas, the Dreamer
DT ,   TA Israel   (08.04.09)
If ever there was a total Looooossser it is Abbas along with the Politicians who pander to him.
8. These People are delusional!
Lana ,   Israel   (08.04.09)
Jerusalem was NEVER promised to them it was given to the Jewish people as OUR eternal capital city. It is not mentioned in the Koran and when Jordan occupied the city it was left to deteriate. Dont worry folks the G-d of Israel will fight this battle for us.
9. how many countries do they want?
eddie ,   Jerusalem   (08.04.09)
Isnt it enough they have mecca, and baghdad and tehran?
10. Dear Nour...
Sergio ,   Madrid   (08.04.09)
You said right TEMPLE MOUNT . Whos temple was on that mount ? Last time i checked it was JEWISH . JEWISH means belogs to JEWS . No more comments.
11. #7 ...So the Entire World is dreaming huh?
Nour ,   Palestine   (08.04.09)
Sometimes I wonder if most people who write TB's such are yours are better off in a mental institution. Your opinions are those of a 3-year old boy in denial. He shouts, cries, and kicks for candy that's not even his. You people need to grow up and realize that the stolen goods must be returned to their rightful owners, Palestine. The world will no longer tolerate your childish excesses. Have some manners. Trust me they'll take you places.
12. to#6 Nour
Mohamed ,   Frankfurt / Eurabia   (08.04.09)
sory to tell you the truth, ishmael wasn't to be sacrified by Abraham but Itzchak. Ishamel was the kind of Hadar, you know, Abraham's handmaid. Jerusalem was, is and will always be the ethernal jewish capital of Israel, since 3000 years....you can cry and kick and mybe try to kill jews, but at least, you have nothing to do in Israel except going back to your home, egypt, jordan, syria, lebanon, or iran...and if you would like, just live in the jewish state according to israeli laws. Salam salamin
13. Keep
David ,   Montpelier USA   (08.04.09)
Keep dreaming Nour, keep dreaming, hah,hah,hah!
14. # 12 Ethiopia Russia Poland -- Europe
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15. Promised by who?
Len ,   Tuscaloosa   (08.04.09)
Allah? How many times is Jerusalem mentioned in the Quran? Maybe Mecca was promised to the Jews?????? As Yiftach HaGiladi said to the King of Moav, we will keep what Hashem promised us and you keep what Kemosh (Allah) promised you!
16. Nour, Jerusalem is never mentioned in the Quran!!!
Ben ,   London, UK   (08.04.09)
Jerusalem was never a capital or anything to any muslim civilization. There was never a Palestinian country with a Jerusalem as a capital. Jerusalem on the other hand is everything to the jewish people. It was founded by jews and was the capital of the jewish kingdom in the past. Jerusalem is mentioned 700 times in the thorah. The only reason why there are churches or mosques in Jerusalem is to try to eradicate the other religions. Christianity and Islam are 2 religions responsible for tons of genocides.
17. Nour
Tip ,   Dubai   (08.04.09)
I totally agree with what you say and with Jerusalem as OUR capital & the right of return. You can call us stupid, delusional, hypocritical , whatever you want but at the end God will help us because we are the ones that are right & truthful. I am a man of peace but Israeli's don't understand peace so ill be glad to say ill fight you any day !! A lebanese who wants HIS Jerusalem back, will get it sooner or later !!
18. Legal Resistance against occupation international obligation
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19. Nour
DanE ,   London   (08.04.09)
Where exactly in the Quran does it mention Jerusalem BY NAME???
20. Tip from Dubai =
Sergio ,   Madrid   (08.04.09)
Another guy disconnected from history and real facts. Now LBN cool guys . Whos next on list for Jerusalem ? Stop dreaming mate . Faster you stop better you feel trust me.
21. Jerusalem is disputed
S.   (08.04.09)
and historically and religiously more sacred to Jews than Arabs.
22. Netanyahu Allowed This
Marcel ,   Florida   (08.04.09)
The spineless jellyfish Netanyahu permitted this Islamic Terrorist Conference to occur because his masters told him AND THE GUTLESS SLIME ALWAYS OBEYS HIS US Handlers. Bibib does not work for Israel he works for his globalist masters Israel and her stupid leaders fell for the fake peace scam that your false god's on the Potomac pushed on you and now you see the handwriting on the wall. The Road Map has always led to hell as I told you ,but you didn't belive me. You trusted you special, elite liar's in Washington instead. Still you are to stupid to stop U.S. interference in Israel's sovereignty.
23. to #16
steven ,   Tel-aviv   (08.04.09)
AHMmmm niether is Jerusalem mentioned once in the Tora
24. obama, the muslim, has told the pals they get e. jerusalem.
debra ,   usa   (08.04.09)
he is as nuts as they are. jerusalem is for JEWS.
25. first take back gaza...
eddie ,   london   (08.04.09)
26. Nour is SPOT ON.
Asterix le gaulois ,   France   (08.04.09)
AL QHODS is mentioned in the Holy Quran. As well as both "Palissades' amusement park" in New Jersey & "Disney Land" in California. This had to be said.
27. RECOGNIZE Palestine, otherwise no peace
Nour ,   Palestine   (08.04.09)
28. Obama last year promised Abbas east jerusalem
Jeff ,   haifa israel   (08.04.09)
This was outrageous since east jerusalem includes the old city. Does Obama want Hamas and iran controlling the jewish quarter in the old city. Jews were there before palestinians. And in 1948 jordan ruined jewish holy sites. Obama said this as a candidate when he had no legal authority to promise anything.
29. Nour
Yerach ,   Jerusalem,Israel   (08.04.09)
Nour if you believe in winged steeds I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Produce one single winged steed & then perhaps we will agree to give you parts of Jerusalem. Being that there are no winged steeds & being that Jerusalem is not mentioned even once your fairy tale Koran (it is mentioned 100's of time in our Torah) you will not get any part of Jerusalem. You will get Jerusalem when pigs fly!!!!!
30. #29 you sound very rude
steven ,   Tel-Aviv   (08.04.09)
your comments are based on insults and are offending, you can dis-agree with someone and still maintain a level of decency Also check your facts, the word Jerusalem is not , not mentioned 100's of times , but not mentioned even once in the Tora
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