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Shoah survivor: Swedes are the ones who saved me
Yael Levy
Published: 24.08.09, 07:49
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1. Sweden
Marilyn ,   USA   (08.24.09)
No one's saying have to go back into the past. It's just been a suggestion to say hey what you said was not correct. Then under the best circumstances to have some kind of proof to back it up.
2. GOLDA = BLAH BLAH BLAH
(08.24.09)
3. you went to Sweden AFTER the shoah !
(08.24.09)
4. so what ???
avi   (08.24.09)
times have changed and if some swedes did save jews from the nazis and so proved to be not antisemites, it does not mean as we can witness everywhere around that they are not anti Israel and pro arabs today.
5. Sweden
Bent Schalimtzek ,   Ra'anana, Israel   (08.24.09)
Because of Sweden I am now here in Israel with my Family. During WW2 my parrents fled to Sweden from Norway and Denmark respectively. They met in Sweden and married right after the war.
6. This is 2009, what some kind Swedes did during WW2 does not
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.24.09)
explain or forgive what the current government is doing today, that is funding groups who want to discredit and destroy Israel. You don't let someone shoot you today because they stopped someone from stabbing you fifty years ago.
7. Sweden SAVED more than 8000 Jews
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.24.09)
A 900 from Norway and more than 7000 from Denmark . So to say that they are antisemites as during the Shoa is wrong , and shows some ignorance . That this woman went there after the Shoah , what's the problem # 2 and 3 , she was saved , had nobody to care about her and they did it . This does not excuse antisemitic ideas of today of course .
8. Swedes are the ones who saved me
Historian ,   Jerusalem   (08.24.09)
While this story may be touching and true, it is not relevant to the public debate. Its only purpose is to divert the readers' attention from the real issue at hand, the present-day policy of the Swedish government with regard to Israel. This type of article can only confuse the public dialogue. I am surprised that the Librarian of Yad Vashem got involved in this one.
9. Look, most Swedes are decent people.
zvi   (08.24.09)
The issue here is that their government is not behaving responsibly when faced with blood libel. This does not have anything to do with the Shoah or Wallenberg or other things done by Swedes during history.
10. This article is used to bash Lieberman
Vladimir ,   Jerusalem   (08.24.09)
Of cause the Sweden's record during WWII is mixed to put it mildly. Being "neutral" they delivered steel and other goods to the Nazis, rendered financial and logistic assistance to the criminal Hitler regime. They may have saved some individual Jews, but the Swedish government never protested the mass extemination of the millions by the Nazis and their collaborators. That's what Lieberman meant when he said: "This is reminiscent of Sweden's stand during World War II, when they failed to intervene as well". In this respect Sweden was no different from other countries. Actually, all Europe killed the Jews, not only the Germans. Golda's story is irrelevant to the subject. It seems that the reporter simply jumped at the oppotunity to bash the Lieberman, to find fault with this right-wing politician and a Russian to that.
11. Misleading title
Jasmin ,   Haifa   (08.24.09)
The title implies that Ms. Zandman was hidden in Sweden during the Shoah. AAMOF, after I'd read the title and *before* I'd read the article itself, I was baffled by the photo of the lady's arm with the tatooed number. Well, how is she has a number on her arm if she was hidden in Sweden? The answer, of course, is that she had a really positive experience in Sweden *after* the Shoah. Jews rightly regard the Swede Raoul Wallenberg as a hero. And, yes, I know that Sweden did accept Jewish refugees from Denmark. AIR, there were quite a few Swedish war profiteers too. Weren't they supplying the Nazis with iron ore in exchange for Nazi-stolen Jewish gold?
12. there is NO relation between swedish history
Charles   (08.24.09)
and todays hate-spreading swedish newspapers
13. and swedish past is no justification for this weeks
Charles   (08.24.09)
swedish blood libel
14. Jews in Palestine didn't intervene much in WWII either.
Rich ,   Toronto, Canada   (08.24.09)
Where were the wealthy Jews when their brothers and sisters were being slaughtered in the Holocaust? Why didn't they make a greater effort to save European Jews?
15. as I see it there r good swedes and there
ghostq   (08.24.09)
r bad swedes, like any other place on earth if you all think in absolute terms than go drink the vodka cause you need to relax.
16. to 10 , vladimir
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.24.09)
They may have saved some individual Jews , you wrote . The 900 Norwegians are they "some" , or the around 8000 who came in a very short period , also some ? You , as your favorite Lieberman , have to learn history . If Sweden's record during WWII is mixed , to put it mildly , as you wrote , what should be said then of your country of origin , that signed a non agression pact with this same hiltler ? This "mildly record" allowed them to save more than 8000 Jews . And please tell me , wich European country had'nt a mixed record ?
17. past is past now is now
jeanette friedman ,   new milford, nj usa   (08.24.09)
what was then was then. today a swedish newspaper makes a ghoulish accusation against the state of israel. that accusation was made in the present. it needs to be addressed now. the swedes should not permit lies and disinformation, blood libels and propaganda to go unanswered.
18. Yea, yea
BF ,   Asia   (08.24.09)
Look, the victors write the history books. Lets be honest, most countries claim to have helped the Jews during WW2 - sounds good and helps people sleep at night when they do not have to think about what grandad got up to between 1939 and 1945. But lets be honest, Germany needed Sweden, without the iron ore from good old neutral Sweden, there would have been no Wehrmacht - the planes, tanks and guns may have had "Made in Germany" stamped on them, but, it also could have read "Produce of Sweden". A lot of this is to do with national guilt, identity, self perception and of course, anit Semitisim. The real question is why the current government in Sweden is silent? Why are they not having a national debate about this? Anybody got any answers?
19. Ask the Norwegians about Swedish neutrality
Jake   (08.24.09)
Sweden not only supplied abundant materials to Nazi Germany that were necessary for its war machine, but they acceded to Germany and allowed their territory to be used by the Wehrmacht as a staging post for the invasion of Norway. Furthermore, what actions or protests did Sweden make for the release of their most righteous diplomat, Raoul Wallenberg, who was kidnapped, imprisoned and murdered by Stalin's Soviet Union? Answer: far less noise than they make for Israel to stop building a couple of balconies in a settlement in Judaea.
20. to all those who missed the point
harry   (08.24.09)
i read all these "this has nothing to do with what sweden did today" comments and that is not up for dispute. all of you should be saying this to lieberman who is desperately trying to make himself seem important using any means possible. he is the one who made the reference to WW2, not this woman. She is refuting what he was spouting in the media at the first chance he got. as to why yad vashem's historian got involved, it was to corroborate what golda said and show definitively that lieberman did not have his facts straight before opening his mouth.
21. #11 read it....
Lisa   (08.24.09)
Jasmin, while you are critizising... Mrs. Zandman was in the camps, this is where she got the number- she was in Sweden AFTERWARDS... anything wrong with that? Does this make her less than a survivor? There were profiteers in every country in Europe and Amerrica- nobody every denied this. In the beginning people believed this man could really lead them to a better life- there are many politicians like that- the good ones can do it, the bad ones are a disaster... but there were also many many decent people who where against the Nazi regime, helped the Jews and other persecuted people. Raoul Wallenberg is NOT the only righteous person, neither in Sweden nor in the rest of Europe- so stop being so negative...
22. to #14 You are as dumb as dirt or do not
jason white ,   afula,israel   (08.24.09)
know squat about history. Jews living in the Palestine mandate volunteered to fight in the british army. The british refused to allow Jewish refugees to escape hitler and enter Palestine.They did not want to upset the arabs. Jews were sent back or had their ships torpedoed by german subs like the Sturma. Even the wealthiest Jews could not save but a few from the british blockade. The british aided the nazis in the extermination of the Jews of europe. Just like your canada and the U.S. that refused to take in Jewish refugees till the war was over. Not even Jewish orphans!Try reading some history books,you may even learn something.
23. #19 Another spectacular display of ignorance
Mikael ,   Trondheim, Norway   (08.25.09)
No German troops were staged from Sweden during the invasion of Norway. What did happen was that troops were allowed to transit from Norwegian and Finnish garrisons without weapons in the early stages of the war. The justification for this can be argued unto absurdity, but lies and ignorance should be avoided at all cost unless you're actively running the purpose of slander and deception.
24. jesusalen
jesusalen ,   jesusalen   (08.25.09)
jesusalen is the revelation of emet´s word salvation of the king jesus messiah (apocalypse 21)
25. Woman, It was God who saved you through Swedes.
Dan   (08.25.09)
Be thankful to him and read Isaiah 53 for truth, instead of wasting your time in politics and news channels.
26. Sweden anti-Semitism
Nina ,   Miami, FL USA   (08.25.09)
It is true that Sweden saved many Jewish lives during WWII, but that was before the influx of Muslims who are changing the country.
27. Yes but it was before Muslim takeover of Sweden
(08.25.09)
28. I'm Swedish and You're Childish!?!
Cristian ,   Lund, Sweden   (08.25.09)
Seriously, how childish can U be? This article was published in a tabloid news paper which is quite famous for making up there own stories or publishing any kind of crap they can find just to get some attention.. You are insulting our values and our constitution by asking our prime minister to intervene in this farse and to break a few laws by doing so. Sweden is a mixed country with all races and religions of the planet and I speak for a hole bunch of swedes when I say that the Muslim-problem are growing stronger for each day while the Jewish community are a much appreciated part of our culture and our country.. The muslim-problem is boiling under the surface and is soon about to get critical. Stop calling me and my country anti-Semitic, what has this even got to do with anti-Semitism?? Are all soldiers Jews in Israel?? Puss!!
29. to #28 worng the swedish gov gave money
ghostq   (08.25.09)
for the so call reserch of this article tbloied or not your tax money r used for palis propeganda.
30. dan , 25 so it was god who murdered
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (08.25.09)
through all our enemies
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