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Hamas slams UN over 'Holocaust classes' in Gaza
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Published: 30.08.09, 20:26
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1. "a move that left half the Arab population..."
Ido ,   Israel   (08.30.09)
What made them refugees is their rejection of the two-state solution in 1947 and the Arabs' attempt to throw the Jews to the sea. They failed. We won the war which they initiated. That's why they are refugees.
2. hamas and holocaust
ishamel   (08.30.09)
hamas will have to evolve and moderate or they will have to be removed from the gaza strip, their leaders terminated and others relocated. Their ideology is cancerous like ahmadinejad. Olmert is the author of gaza withdrawal and he should be located in a prison after conviction near gaza so he can taste rockets with ball bearings and rusty nails.
3. hamas prefers ignorance
mike ,   israel (formerly usa   (08.30.09)
which is clear any time one listens to their uneducated leadership. case in point: this article.
4. All part of the Pal propaganda machine to deny the truth
JPS ,   Efrat   (08.30.09)
You should hear the Palestinians talk about how the Jewish Temple in Jerusalem simply does not exist and never did. The Palestinians are also very good at denying that the holiest site in the world to Jews is really part of the Islamic culture that didn't even exist 2000 years ago. The Palestinians are great liars to themselves, and specialize in lying to the world and trying to spread the lies and turn them into the "truth". Thus, according to the Palestinians there were never Jews in Israel before the 20th century, despite a constant presence over the past 3000 years. They also claim that any Jews who lived in Hebron did so voluntarily, conveniently leaving out the massacre of 1929 in which scores of Jews were murdered or wounded, and the rest chased out in ethnic cleansing. Oh, and speaking of ethnic cleansing, let's not forget the illegal expulsion of Jews from Arab lands and the stealing of their assets. Lots of Arab and Palestinian propaganda, none of it connected to the truth.
5. 3
zionist forever   (08.30.09)
mike You ever heard the saying ignorance is bliss? Thats the palestinians for you.
6. guess which story is NOT being covered
by western media   (08.31.09)
7. UN mediator adressed problem without denying or believing
observer   (08.31.09)
Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine, reported that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumors concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation". In the autumn of 1948 the refugee problem was a fact and possible solutions were discussed. Count Folke Bernadotte said on 16 September: "No settlement can be just and complete if recognition is not accorded to the right of the Arab refugee to return to the home from which he has been dislodged. It would be an offence against the principles of elemental justice if these innocent victims of the conflict were denied the right to return to their homes while Jewish immigrants flow into Palestine, and indeed, offer the threat of permanent replacement of the Arab refugees who have been rooted in the land for centuries." What is the point of acknowledging or denying Shoah; that's irrelevant to the Palestinian refugees.
8. UN will admit it was a misunderstanding, they meant to say
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (08.31.09)
ham-ocaust where pigs are slaughtered for wandering over the border into a muslum country. They wouldn't dare upset the people who steal their humanitarian supplies, they might not leave them anything if they did that.
9. "We refuse to allow....lie by Zionists"
William ,   Israel   (08.31.09)
Not that it's a lie, especially with overwhelming evidence left by the Nazis themselves....but why not, Hamas? The UN has been teaching the fake Palestinian narrative for generations and sustaining a situation of refugees that should have been ended in 1949 with them resettling in new locales. Or perhaps you're just afraid that the atrocities you commit and others you plan to commit will be labeled as genocide by your own children...so better to keep them ignorant and believe that killing Jews en masse is for Allah.
10. #4 - Did u hear them claim prophets of 4000 years before?
William ,   Israel   (08.31.09)
Observer, probably one of the dumbest posters here and a product of the radical Arab-supremacy movement insists often now that Islam existed before it ever existed and it was Judaism that took after it. What a riot!!!
11. #1 - Half the Ara population....only 1.2 m total?
William ,   Israel   (08.31.09)
Well, that goes against what Pal extremists said a few weeks ago....that 6 million Palestinians lived in the land before Jews arrived. Somewhere in Pali HQ there is a large wheel full of numbers. Before they release a story, they spin the wheel and report what they see...."today, a massacre of 10,000 Pals in Ramallah.....yesterday, 1 billion Palestinians forced from their homes after being raped by rabid IDF raccoons in 1948".
12. #7 - Observer - Pals remain refugees by choice
William ,   Israel   (08.31.09)
1) By the choice of their Arab leaders who either denied them the choice to return or threatened them from returning in order to act as a bone in the neck of Israel. Arafat did this well during his tenure when he paid refugees to remain in camps and brutaly threatened anyone from leaving to more permanent housing, especially if Israel built it. 2) By ignoring UNR 181 which calls for the return of refugees AND an absolute end of beligerene against Israel. Both the Arab leaders AND the Pal refugees refused. Pals agreed to remain hostile towards Israel and to never accept the State or Jews near them. Ergo, they forfeited their right to return under that resolution and the UN administration. Further, Bernadotte's claim of "Arab refugees rooted in the land for centuries" contradicts British records of just 15 years earlier which documented hundreds of thousands of Arab immigrants illegally streaming into Palestine for work. I hypothesize that the reason so many left without ever seeing a soldier is because they ARE NOT rooted in the land but just a settler who wanted to return to their home country (of Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, Syria, etc.) when violence erupted but were prevented from doing so by genocidal Arab leaders. Even Arab leaders throughout history have admitted this one...
13. So who really runs UNWRA?
William ,   Israel   (08.31.09)
John Ging swears that he's in control and does not take orders from Hamas. However, past incidents would prove otherwise.... like rumors that John was chased out of Gaza....like Hamas members totally infiltrating UNWRA.....like UN schools being used by Hamas men unopposed during Gaza War.....like ambulances and humanitarian aid being stolen by Hamas and John Ging covering it up with lies, despite Hamas admitting to it.....and now Hamas demanding a change in UNWRA school curriculum which is offered free to Gazans by world taxpayers.... So who really runs UNWRA, John??
14. We want our children to be as ignorant as we are
GZLives   (08.31.09)
so they can continue to be used and exploited by the Arab world as they always have. Wise up Palestinians and shoot these Hamas guys dead before they drag you back further and further in time. You are being left in the dust of history and soon enough even Europe will get bored with you as their current fashion trend and then ... you'll be somewhere between Somalia and Yemen with Hamas Taliban making sure you all stay within their idea of Islam. Good bye fingers and maybe even heads ... sad
15. lies
alan ,   Texas   (08.31.09)
Hamas loves lies and hates truth. The lies have to be their lies. The truth must be their "truth."
16. That's a Switch!
emanon ,   USA   (08.31.09)
Why would the arabs cry "Foul" to the UN when the UN is constantly criticizing Israel for defending itself? Why would the arabs turn against the UN when the UN is constantly ignoring the war crimes of the arabs against Jews? Why would the arabs turn agains the UN when the UN is theor best friend?
17. must also teach about Mizrachi Naqba
ben yaacov ,   herzliya   (08.31.09)
Must also teach about must also teach about Mizrachi Naqba. Also the role of the Palestinians during the Holocaust such as their then leader the Mufti of Jerusalem activities or their denying a safe harbour for Jews who were then executed.
18. 'We refuse to let our children study a lie
galut ,   Selah   (08.31.09)
is that because they might find the real truth about the role of the grand mufti of jerusalem? NOTE to moderator two pior post have not made it.....is there a problem of mentioning the grand mufti by name?
19. #7 .. DENIAL, HATRED LEADS TO MORE DENIAL AND HATRED
ABARAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (08.31.09)
THE JEWISH PEOPLE IN EUROPE HAVE LOST 6 MILLION PEOPLE. MEN, WOMEN CHILDREN. MANY WERE RELIGIOUS JEWS, SOME WOULD BE DOCTORS, WRITERS, MUSICIANS............... AN ENLIGHTMENT TO THE WHOLE WORLD. AFTER SUCH A UNBELIEVABLE HUGE AND UNPRECENTED HUGE LOSS, THE JEWS DID PICK THEMSELVES UP, ROSE OUT OF THE ASHES AND STARTED OVER AGAIN. STATES WERE CREATED LIKE JORDAN WHERE THE NATURAL PAL./ARABS HAVE THEIR OWN HOMELAND, LIKE THE JEWS IN ISRAEL. HOWEVER THE PAL/ARABS WERE BEING KEPT IN THE DARK REGARDING ANY TYPE OF ADVANCEMENT IN LIFE BY THEIR OWN ARAB BRETHREN, LIKE EGYPT, SYRIA ETC. FOR SO MANY YEARS THE PAL/ARABS AND THIER BROTHERS HAVE CRIED FOUL. THEY HAVE CRIED MASSACRES, STARVATION ETC. IN THE MEANTIME, THE WHOLE U.N. WAS FEEDING AND SUPPORTING THIS GROUP OF ARAB/PALS AND EVEN SET UP UNRWA TO PERPETUATE THE PAL/ARAB PROBLEMS WITH NO SOLUTION IN SIGHT. THIS COULD GO ON FOR A HUNDRED YEARS AND THE PAL/ARABS COMPLAIN, THEY WHINE, AND YET DO NOT PICK THEMSELVES UP AND SHOW ANY SIGNS OF GETTING ON WITH LIFE. THE PAL/ARABS HAVE BECOME LETHARGIC AND ARE CONTENT TO LIVE OFF THE WORLDS BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AID. SAUSI ARABIA WITH IT'S BILLIONS IN OIL WEALTH, DID NOT HELP ANY ARAB/PAL " REFUGEES". THE SAUDIS HAVE ENOUGH OIL MONEY TO BUILD LUXURY CONDOMINIUMS FOR EVERYONE, INCLUDING THE POOR ARAB PEOPLES. BUT THEY WOULD RATHER SPEND UNTOLD BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON JET FIGHTERS AND OTHER WEAPONS TO FIGHT .... WHO ? THE ARAB/PALS HAVE TO DO FOR THEMSELVES AS COUNTLESS OTHER PEOPLES HAVE DONE..............THEY MOVE FOREWARD AND LIVE LIFE !! BUT THIS SEEMS TO BE A PROBELEM SPECIFIC TO THESE PAL/ARAB/MUSLIM PEOPLE. NO LIFE ADVANCEMENT IS AS IMPORTANT TO THEM AS THEIR ENVY AND HATRED WHICH DRIVES THEM BACKWARDS AT BEST !! AND BLAMING OTHERS FOR WHATEVER PROBLEMS THEY HAVE IS NOT THE ANSWER !!!
20. ARAB LEADERSHIP, IGNORANCE IS THEIR STYLE
ABRAHAM ben JACOB ,   CANADA   (08.31.09)
WE CAN SEE FROM THIS ARTICLE AND THE ARAB/PAL GUY PICTURED HERE SAMI ABU, WHAT IS THE ATTITUDE OF THE ARAB "LEADERSHIP".. THE ARAB/PAL " LEADERS" ARE ALREADY IN ANOTHER STATE OF THEIR OWN, THE STATE OF SELF-DENIAL. THE ARABS DENIAL OF " OTHER PEOPLE'S RIGHTS " ....WHICH IS APARTHEID ILLUSTRATE HOW THEY REJECT ANYONE DIFFERENT THAN THEM, AND ARE VIOLENT TO OTHERS AS WELL. WITH THIS " STATE " OF MIND THE ARAB/PALS AND SAMI ABU ARE STILL GOING BACKWARDS TOWARDS CONTINUOUS FAILURE AFTER FAILURE. THE ARAB WORLD HAS NOT ADRESSED THE REAL ISSUES AND ARE NOT UPLIFTING THE LIVES OF THE PAL/ARABS. THERE CAN BE SEEN A TIME WHEN THE PAL/ARABS WILL TURN AWAY FROM THEIR OWN UNHELPFUL ARAB BRETHREN AND COME TO BEG ISRAEL FOR HELP. THEY WILL HAVE TO ASK ISRAEL FOR SOME HELP TO ADVANCE THEIR OWN PAL/ARAB LIVES , JUST AS ISRAEL ITSELF IS CONSTANTLY MOVING AND PROGRESSING FOREWARD AT A RAPID PACE.
21. Supporters of Palestinians
Rachel   (08.31.09)
What do you have to say about this new outrage that according to Hamas, the Holocaust is all one big lie invented by the Zionists? Of course,considering these are the same folks who call people who blow up families eating in a pizza parlor "martyrs" what did you expect? How sad these poor kids have to grow up among such hateful people.
22. comprimise
Jacob Erickson ,   Tel Aviv, Israel   (08.31.09)
It should be taught as part of a world history class to everyone, but in Gaza or the arab world it will not be accepted. The best thing we can hope for is to be able to teach them a basic outline of Nazi policies without going into the details and the atrocities. Just teach them that there were concentration camps, but not how many people were there, teach them that they started anti jewish laws but not the results. Hopefully that can lay the groundwork for later expansion into the subject
23. Who would want to invent a lie like that?
vered ,   israel   (08.31.09)
With all our hearts, we wish it never happened. Think of it: horror for the victims, horror for the perpetrators to know they were capable of such things and horror for the world to know such a thing can happen. But the efficient German population recorded it all and made no mistakes in keeping blueprints, names and dates.
24. UN mediator directly adressed the refugee problem
observer   (08.31.09)
Bernadotte was well known for his humanitarian works while head of the International Red Cross during WWII. One act that brought him acclaim occurred in the closing weeks of the war when he facilitated release of thousands of Jews, Christians and allied Prisoners of War from German concentration and POW camps. Bernadotte, the UN mediator in Palestine, reported that "the exodus of the Palestinian Arabs resulted from panic created by fighting in their communities, by rumors concerning real or alleged acts of terrorism, or expulsion. Almost the whole of the Arab population fled or was expelled from the area under Jewish occupation". In the autumn of 1948 the refugee problem was a fact and possible solutions were discussed. Count Folke Bernadotte said on 16 September: "No settlement can be just and complete if recognition is not accorded to the right of the Arab refugee to return to the home from which he has been dislodged. It would be an offence against the principles of elemental justice if these innocent victims of the conflict were denied the right to return to their homes while Jewish immigrants flow into Palestine, and indeed, offer the threat of permanent replacement of the Arab refugees who have been rooted in the land for centuries." Why should the Palestinians believe or disbelieve in the Holocaust?
25. #7 - Palestinian refugees are all over 60 years old
(08.31.09)
Their children are mislabeled as refugees, but have no connection whatsoever to the land of Israel. Just like I don't have a connection to Germany, even though i have a German family name. No other group of refugees can inherit their refugee status except for the Palestinian fake people.
26. Palestinians refugees are the creation of the Arab League
Kyle ,   Southpark, CO, USA   (08.31.09)
They were the ones who told them to "get out of the way" of the Arab armies, and promised that they could have double loot when the Jews were exterminated. The Palestinian "refugees" can be given the houses and lands of the Jewish refugees who were ethnically cleansed from the Arab League countries. That would be fair and equitable, but the Syrians, Lebanese, Egyptians, Jordanians, Tunisians, Yemenites, Moroccans, Algerians, Saudi Arabians, Libyans, Iraqis who looted the property of the ethnically cleansed Jews don't want to share the booty with their Palestinian brethren, whom they forced to live in squalor for 60 years.
27. what about "nakab law"?
Mike ,   Boston, USA   (08.31.09)
I guess it only works one way!
28. hamas afraid that his propeganda will
ghostq   (08.31.09)
be obselete, what they experienced during cast lead is mega light years from a real genocide, especialy when the palis leadership itself in the 30's colaborated with hitler meaning these r the real reason they r in refugee camps. and not cause of the Israelis.
29. Teach them about the 1 million Jews who fled Arab countries
EgyptJewRefugee ,   Geneva, Switzerland   (08.31.09)
Teach them about the 1 million Jewsh refugees who had to flee the Arab countries.
30. #25 refugee children have no connection to the land, but ...
observer   (08.31.09)
grand grand children have? are you out of your mind?
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