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PM gearing to 'fight delegitimization'
Roni Sofer
Published: 17.10.09, 11:22
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31. Goldstone
Simon   (10.17.09)
With a lead time of 7 months one would have expected a veteran politician like Netanyahu to be ready for this filth. But his government is not experienced, too busy filling up their own pockets and appointing lackeys in stead of professionals. Now our ovicevoice is not heard abroad, our army is smudged and shamed. Who will stand up for us if not us, ourselves?
32. #13: Colonel Richard Kemp didn't do an investigation
Fact is   (10.17.09)
Goldstone did! Colonel Richard Kemp merely repeated statements by IDF spokemens. No surprise that things like phosphoros bombs were omitted when the entire world could watch that phosphor was raining onto civilians.
33. "Jerusalem vexed"
Chanalau, Tova ,   London, UK   (10.17.09)
Surely you mean Tel Aviv; Jerusalem (as in its rightful inhabitants) would doubtless like to see the whole crooked fascist Israel government sent forthwith to the Hague, together with the top bras of the IDF.
34. The Chanalau Phenomenon is in its element
Genuine Tosefta ,   Tveria   (10.17.09)
anything dreamed up to be bad about Israel fits right up the alley of this old Phenomen The Phenomen's constant acting ability to side with its Mosque going neighbors is getting tired and boring by now
35. Sarah's false accounts of history
Noor ,   Palestine   (10.17.09)
"Nowhere under international law is there a requirement for a sovereign nation to accept terrorists as a legitimate entity." Hah, it is only YOU who see Palestinians as terrorists. Thank God only a select minority shares the same approach with you. "ndia fought a revolution. The United States fought a revolution. (West) Pakistan gave up on trying to retain East Pakistan, hence Bangladesh came into existence. " Absolutely. Tell me something I dont know, please. And thank you for reviving and contributing to my main argument .It is the same with the Palestinians. We are in a revolution and we will fight until we get what is legally and legitimately entitled to us. "srael fought a war of independence against five Arab nations. You lost. Too bad. Can't put toothpaste back into the tube, ya habibti. " It wasn't a war of independence, you silly. When were the Israelis militarily occupied and oppressed? Who controlled their land? Cant say the Palestinians, silly girl, because Palestine was never granted self determination. Who was controlling Palestine? Syria? Jordan? Lebanon? NO. England? YES. Did you fight England for independence? ABSOLUTELY NOT. Who demanded independence from the british in 1919? The Israelis? NO. It was the Palestinians, who sent a delegation of the PNC to England. You were simply granted a piece of territory, with no calls for independence. You didnt fight the british, did you? The great majority of people who consider themselves Israeli, including you and the present Israeli population, are of Eastern European, Spanish, Middle Eastern or North African descent. You are all immigrants into the land of Palestine. Your ancestors are either Russian, SPanish, Moroccan, etc. Dont hide that fact from yourselves. "Only the Palestinians demand something so ridiculous as a second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth bite at the apple." What have the Palestinians demanded except what intl law guarantees them? "When was Palestine ever a country? There wasn't even a notion of "Palestinians" until 1967." The Palestine National Council sent a delegation to the British, demanding independence form the Empire in 1919 FORTY-EIGHT YEARS before '67. You can put that in your pipe and smoke it.
36. Israel knows fully well of its crimes!
Noor ,   Palestine   (10.17.09)
That is why it rejects any and every call for an investigation. This is what makes the criminal fascist state so similiar to a terror organization. it fails to abide by the law. Even HAMAS accepted the Goldstone report!
37. # 13. Sadly, western politicians know the truth but truth is
Roger ,   Paris, France   (10.17.09)
not a factor in this whole affair, politics and religion are. On the one hand you have an Islamist Arab groups set out, by their own testimony, to wipe Israel off the face of earth including anything Jewish in it, including its people through the use of any means possible. Western politicians do not respond to this reality and the fact that Israel has done more than is humanly possible to adhere to certain ethical and legal standards. They respond to the so-called progressive elements in their societies and the growing Muslim publics in their countries. It's a cynical world out there that does not care about human rights, only about the negating the right of the Jewish people to live and maintain its independent nation-state of Israel.
38. Obama born in Kenya proof....................
Read it and weep   (10.17.09)
Sunday, June 27, 2004 Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate Kenyan-born US Senate hopeful, Barrack Obama, appeared set to take over the Illinois Senate seat after his main rival, Jack Ryan, dropped out of the race on Friday night amid a furor over lurid sex club allegations. The allegations that horrified fellow Republicans and caused his once-promising candidacy to implode in four short days have given Obama a clear lead as Republicans struggled to fetch an alternative. Ryan’s campaign began to crumble on Monday following the release of embarrassing records from his divorce. In the records, his ex-wife, Boston Public actress Jeri Ryan, said her former husband took her to kinky sex clubs in Paris, New York and New Orleans. "It’s clear to me that a vigorous debate on the issues most likely could not take place if I remain in the race," Ryan, 44, said in a statement. "What would take place, rather, is a brutal, scorched-earth campaign – the kind of campaign that has turned off so many voters, the kind of politics I refuse to play." Although Ryan disputed the allegations, saying he and his wife went to one ‘avant-garde’ club in Paris and left because they felt uncomfortable, lashed out at the media and said it was "truly outrageous" that the Chicago Tribune got a judge to unseal the records. The Republican choice will become an instant underdog in the campaign for the seat of retiring Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald, since Obama held a wide lead even before the scandal broke. "I feel for him actually," Obama told a Chicago TV station. "What he’s gone through over the last three days I think is something you wouldn’t wish on anybody." The Republican state committee must now choose a replacement for Ryan, who had won in the primaries against seven contenders. Its task is complicated by the fact that Obama holds a comfortable lead in the polls and is widely regarded as a rising Democratic star. The chairwoman of the Illinois Republican Party, Judy Topinka, said at a news conference, after Ryan withdrew, that Republicans would probably take several weeks to settle on a new candidate. "Obviously, this is a bad week for our party and our state," she said. As recently as Thursday, spokesmen for the Ryan campaign still insisted that Ryan would remain in the race. Ryan had defended himself saying, "There’s no breaking of any laws. There’s no breaking of any marriage laws. There’s no breaking of the Ten Commandments anywhere."
39. #4 NO one has the right to murder Israelis. If VENEZUALA
Jae ,   Lynn US   (10.17.09)
f Venezuala took 20% of US population hostage by salvoing 8000 missiles into Southern Cal and florida and Texas would you be singing the same "dispraportionate tune"? No one has the right to murder Israeli civilians. Id they do they should be compensated 1000 fold. Nor do they have the right to hold 20% of israel's population hostage to air raid sirens and bomb shelters and PTSD and economic declines. Israel was foolish, under the LEFT wing government to be so inneffective and inept for 8 years of missiles. Speaking of which the US war in Afghanistan & Iraq has claimed 4000 US soldiers lives, probably 100k taliban and al qaeda and terrorist fighters, and another 200k civilians deaths...all for 3000 of our citizens being murdered by Islamic terrorists on 9/11/01. So 3000 versus 304,000? Thats "disproportionate" Id say. Israel TEXT messaged terror loving civilians (voted terror organizations, hamas, Islamic jihad in by 80% majority) and dropped leaflets to leave certain areas of fighting and to stay clear of hamas terrorists. No country has ever done this- not even the greatest country, the US. So why talk rubbish?
40. Noor, only a SELECTIVE history revisionist like you
Jae ,   Lynn US   (10.17.09)
would be so ignorant of the fact that for almost 4000 years the land of Israel has been the identified homeland of the progeny of Yaaqove aka ISRAEL Avraham had Yizhaq who had Yaaqove aka Israel who had the 12 tribes of Israel. This is our land. The Arabs=ARABIA, NOT JUDEA. JUDEA is where Yehudah, Yehudi, Judah, Juden, Juif , Jewish comes from. ARAB-ARABIA, JUDAH-JUDEA Arabs OCCUPY lands not in Arabia---like Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, North Africa- Morrocco, Tunisia, Algeria, Libya, Egypt, Sudan,... Detroit, Chicago, Sweden, lol. etc. YOU are the occupiers. You have huge swaths of land 100 times our land. Jews were worshipping in Jerusalem 16 centuries before Mihammed was nursing from his mother and learning to be potty trained. ya habibi, stick that in your pipe and smoke it.
41. Warning to criminal Israeli leadership....
Marco ,   Spain   (10.17.09)
Never ever again expect the red carpet treatment when you travel. Now that you have been certified by the United Nations as being war criminals, you should expect arrest. My advice is to you is to always look over your shoulder when you travel out of occupied Palestine because there is liable to be a Marshal lurking somewhere with an arrest warrant. P.S: I have taken the liberty of making reservations for all of you at a prison in the Hague. Dont drink and drive for I hate to have tocancel your reservations.
42. Hey Marco .. I wouldn't hold my breath
GZLives   (10.17.09)
43. PM gearing to 'fight delegitimization'
Trevor Shaff ,   Modiin ISrael   (10.17.09)
We all know that Israels Hasbara is not very strrong, fighting to survive does not leave us much room and time for marketing, however we need help, and we need to get the assistance of marketing and top people in this sphere, someobody mentioned Dan Guillerman, brilliant. I would also recommend Hellel Neuer of the HR watch, a brilliant young man with all the facts. Best of luck Wth Hashems help, we will as always, survive.
44. They aren't trying to undermine your actions
Jerrold Cohen ,   Seal Beach, USA   (10.17.09)
They are trying to gain justice for the victims of your murders and terrorism of civilians.
45. #40
shu ,   UK   (10.17.09)
super post i love it when people put silly people right,well done my friend.
46. ahmadinejad girly man doesnt have this problem
gear up for what ? ,   tell them-go to hell   (10.17.09)
nor does russia's putin nor china's premier nor just about any other nut case out there so why does our pm have a problem throwing his diapers and baby bottle away and saying - i'm not going to take it anymore ?
47. Jae, let me make this a little charitable to you.
Noor ,   Palestine   (10.17.09)
Do yourself a service and NEVER engage in a political discussion involving the Israel-Palestine conflict, especially if it happens to involve non-Jewish participants. Your irrelevant argument that God "gave you the land" is the biggest laugh of the 20th century. YOU are all immigrants into the land of Palestine. Proof? Look at your ancestors. Your grandparents. They are all immigrants into Palestine. Ask every Jew you know and they will tell you they have roots in Europe, North Africa, etc. But all Palestinians are from PALESTINE, and we will reutrn!!!!
48. To Israel: Just Keep on Bombing Them to Surrender
Dav Lev ,   Burbank. CAUSA   (10.17.09)
Israel warned Hamas about continuing to fire Kassams and Grads. Ashkelon, with it's chemical/oil depots..was spared a major disaster. What if? Israel did hit back..at launching sites..and smuggling tunnels, to limited success. Soooo, it sent in the tanks, gunships, etc. Thanks to Hamas tactitians, some civilians were harmed. Israel warned them beforehand. Hamas committed the war crimes. But, Israel also talks too much. In Iraq, thousands of civilians have been killed..by US Marines..the insurgents using the same tactics. Marine spokesperson: " we are sorry for deaths, but they use civilians as shields". That was it folks. No long apology, no justification, or excuses..nutting. To Israel: give one statement..blame Hamas and the militants..and keep bombing. Next time, destroy Hamas..no cease fire..surrender only.
49. why is netanyahu handling this?
Israel Israeli ,   Tel Aviv   (10.17.09)
Netanyahu should not be involved. Livni, Olmert and Barak made the decisions and are considered the war criminals. They should go and defend Israel.
50. Noor do your self a favour
Yoni ,   Sydney   (10.18.09)
and understand that the very term "Palestine" has its roots in the hebrew word meaning "invader" and realise that is what you are :- Arab invaders.
51. to #15
Archie ,   usa   (10.18.09)
Kelly, it does not matter anymore if Israel provides a conclusion of an independent investigation findings or not ! It has been very clear that the entire UN assembly is being hijacked by moslem countries (no such thing as moderate or extretmest moslems) when you realise that their (religion) comes before their sense of belonging wether its their comunity or country! Islam is a cult that prey on its followers!!!
52. To: No. 47
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (10.18.09)
Jews trace their ancestry in a long unbrken line to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. You can trace your roots to Ishmael, bastard son of Abraham. I remind you that Ishmael was cast out of the land. You are squatting on Jewish soil, and you will leave -- voluntarily or otherwise.
53. #18 Noor
Sarah B. ,   New York / Saviyon   (10.18.09)
An internal, independent investigation would not find us guilty. We were fooled at the UN because we were led to believe that we would get enough vortes to get away with it. There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again!
54. To: Ynet Moderator and Ynet Posters
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (10.18.09)
Please delete the post at No. 53, which was not written by me. In fact -- if you release to me the ISP address from which that post was sent, I will make damned sure that there will be legal repercussions. I have included my e-mail address on this post. Noor -- apologies. I did not write the post, and anyone who is familiar with my political views will know I did not write it. Some pathetic loser has nothing better to do with his life, I guess.
55. To: Ynet Moderator
Sarah B ,   New York / Saviyon   (10.18.09)
Ah, left off the e-mail address. Here it is. I really do want the ISP address of the sick imposter who is using my name on his or her posts.
56. Imposter @ #54
Sarah B. ,   New York / Saviyon   (10.18.09)
Why dont you provide us with the legal backup to your claim that Sarah B.S is really you? You are nothing but a cheap imposter. Grow up and get a life will you?
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