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Abusive mom stuns police
Raanan Ben-Zur
Published: 21.10.09, 21:27
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1. May she never see them again
Joe ,   Ohio, USA   (10.21.09)
3. It doesn't say she's chareidi anywhere
Daniel Breslauer ,   Jerusalem   (10.21.09)
I guess she must be secular. Nothing is written about her religious affiliation anywhere.
4. There is something missing
Paul ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.21.09)
When the ultra-orthodox, haredi, Torah observant woman was the abuser Ynet had no problem identifying her. Who is this person committing abuse in this news piece, an ultra-leftist, an Arab, a witch? Ynet's reporting is shameful.
5. # 4
Birdi ,   Israel   (10.21.09)
Y-Net was not the only newspaper in Israel to identify the haradi abusive mother, every single newspaper in Israel & abroad published her story. What difference does it make what religion the woman in question is, the fact that she abuses her innocent kids who cant retaliate, is shameful.
6. If it was say e.g.the Royal Family of UK
yiddishe imma   (10.21.09)
it would be stated in detail too.One somehow expects higher values of religious people, and non religious delight when we fall short, or, they expect better things of us. Not always so, but that's the fact.The non religious don't judge themselves by the same yardstick, Zehu zeh. As the saying goes the higher you go, the further you fall, and they love it when we fall...Deal with it. Oovdah. I got over them a long time ago. Simply don't read ynet, is another solution.
7. #5
observer   (10.21.09)
It really doesn't make any difference what religion an abuser is, but she was identified as haredi because the Israeli secular press were only too happy to identify her as such. They in turn were fed that information (much of it wrong) by the hospital, the Social Services and police. as part of a much broader anti-haredi drive. Other media services gleefully repeated what the Israeli press was publishing for obvious reasons.
8. Abusive Mom? How about Chilly Pepper Mom?
(10.22.09)
9. Chili Peppers are very healthy
Mikey ,   SomeWhere OverHere   (10.22.09)
They are a natural cure for asthma and other breathing disorders, good for circulation, anti-cancer.
10. If she was religious
moriah ,   sacramento, usa   (10.22.09)
It would have been in the HEADLINE. and repeated every other sentence or two. That's how YNET shows its objectivity.
11. I found soap to be more affective then chilly peppers
Gail ,   Israel   (10.22.09)
and less of a sting..it cleans out the mouth from dirty words. Israeli Secular kids have real dirty mouths but maybe dirty mouths are better than abusive parents. I remember as a kid if we said dirty things my parents used to wash our mouths out and I can also remember when chilly peppers were used.I do not consider myself abused as a child i actually had a lovely childhood and parents had the right to give us a spanking once in a while. It did not hurt just taught us to be good people. I am sure she was not arrested for the chilly peppers lol. Anything to make a headline...Israeli kids eat chilly peppers. chilly is served with every meal My kids have been eating chilly peppers from 5-6 yrs old. Did these kids have marks on them from being hit? Have the teachers at school reported abuse? or are the neighbors just pissed off because they do not like the family. I hope these things were looked into before the police removed the kids from the Mom, causing more damage then the chilly peppers. from some of these talk backs it looks like people just read an article and accept every thing they read with out knowing any facts. The next Bill to be submitted is going to be "no chilly peppers for kids under 18" lol not even with parent approval.
12. Another victory for Israeli education
ben yaacov ,   herzliya   (10.22.09)
13. I think we all expect YNET to further explain who she is.
Bunnie Meyer ,   Los Angeles, CA USA   (10.22.09)
14. which of Israel's six basic groupings did she belong to?
Maloo   (10.22.09)
That is one of the basic items of information missing from this article, which as usual, raises more questions than it answers. I'd give it a zero out of ten.
15. Breaking news seculer mom Abuses children
Steve ,   NYC   (10.22.09)
It"s not Breaking news when a seculer mom Abuses her children because that"s a daily thing.
16. # 7
Birdi ,   Israel   (10.22.09)
I do not believe that the police, the social services & the hospital would all lie about the condition of the abused child.For what reason would they all lie ??
17. WHERE ARE YOU Sara B from SAVIYON, Dave from UK, Robert
(10.22.09)
when one of YOUR secular people abusive their children? Why don't we hear from you, Sarah B.: "She belongs in prison. Perhaps she can share a cell with Marie-Charlotte Renault, "mother" of Rose Pizem, Z.L. They can entertain one another with stories of how best to torture and murder a child." Why don't we hear from you Robert Haymond, retired psychologist?
18. Chilly Peppers
Moshe Rosten ,   Jerusalem, Israel   (10.22.09)
It just so happens that this woman is NOT alone. I've witnessed myself a sephardi mother punishing her child by putting a some black pepper on her finger and putting it in her childs mouth. One variation?! Maybe there is some exageration going on here (what does it mean she beat up? with a stick? a slap on the tush? what does it mean she stuffed chilli peppers? a whole pepper, 1 ounce, 2?) . I think the standards to take children away from their parents should be higher (due procedure).
19. This is sick already! Remove kids, lock up mom for life.
WRP   (10.22.09)
What the hell is happening over there? Lock her up or put one into her skull. Her poor, poor kids... my gosh, these mothers are worse than animals!
20. If she is charedi - put her into prison!
Bar ,   Tel Aviv   (10.22.09)
If not - release her. Pepper is not mortally dangerous. I, personally, like chili pepper with pitah.
21. A mother got arrested in the States
not a sadist   (10.22.09)
for washing child's mouth out with soap. Horrible bullying punishment.
22. n 11
aline ,   israel   (10.22.09)
chilly peppers? soap? there must be a lot of sick people around with even sicker parents. Or have they been watching horror films?
23. Didn't you just 'love' no 18?....not
Yuppy mum   (10.22.09)
Here we go again > a 'sfardi' mother. YOU are worse than she is as YOU are poisoning many, she, just one.
24. what difference does it make
dinah ,   israel   (10.22.09)
what a stupid controversy, if she is religious haredei secular or whatever. The law of the country we live in should be respected no matter what your religious affiliation might be. At least this is vbalid in the diaspora whynot here? In this case however, one should consider the grade of "abusing'. a spank on the tush and more discipline would not be harmful to many israeli kids! To take them away from the parents will not necessarily (again depending on the grade of abuse) grant them a better "life" in the horrible institutions of this country.
25. Black Eyed Peas appearing too?
Count me in   (10.22.09)
Anyone seen this twoddle anywhere else except ynet? Would it be translated as pilpel cham v'gum karir lol? You'd pee in your pants if you'd seen how they translated a new soap opera on tv this week. Migdalim Ba'avir became Airborne Towers. Don't you just love it?
26. 24 # They go to foster loving parents not orphanages
(10.22.09)
27. 26 , foster "loving" parents ?
Charles ,   Petach Tikva   (10.22.09)
Forget this "loving" , not always the case .
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