The Saudi Plan for peace is already proof of our weakness. Every Time that Isarelis and us are close to a solution Israel backs back. There is an unhappy growth of so called antisemitism in the arab and Islamic world. As a muslim I do not approve of that trend . Jews must have the wisedom to to see this and reach a compromise.The Israeli right wing government and Hamas will not allow it . So chose!!

The left is again dreaming. Olmert proved once and for all Abbas is a rejectionist. Olmert offered Abbas the equivalent of 100% of the territories, the Arab sections of Jerusalem and Abbas said he wasn't even close to an agreement with Olmert. If Abbas had a brain, he would have taken Olmert`s generous offer. As Abba Eban said, The Palestinians never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. Abbas thought Obama would hand Israel to him on a silver platter - ain`t gonna happen. Abbas is no different then Arafat or Hamas. He wants 2 Palestinian states. He wants his own state and to flood Israel with millions of Arabs for the 2nd state. The 600,000 Jews forced from the Arab countries in the late 40s aren't going back there. Abbas then wants all of Jerusalem. Fatah's General Assembly held in Bethlehem during the summer heard Abbas promise that Fatah would liberate all of Jerusalem and purge it of Jewish "settlers." Unless the Israeli left wants to live under Sharia law and speak in Arabic, then they better stop appeasing Arab rejectionists.

What a loser of an article. "World has grown tired of us" What a loser, like Ehud Olmert said "we are tired of winning" A Jew, a real Jew not a ghetto minded Jew will look a the world today and scream, I am tired of rockets falling in my back yard and nobody gives a flying f...k, so neither will give a s...t and do what I must do to defend myself.

It's Wallerstein by a mile.

The left-wing kapos should choose between Obama/Brown/BankiMOON or the Jewish people of the world. The LEFT-WING ATHEISTS ARE THE ENEMIES OF ISRAEL (GETTING HIGH SALARIES FROM THE ARAB OIL MACHINE TO DESTROY ISRAEL FROM THE INSIDE)

In the West, people are used to thinking that Israel cannot survive without the help of Europe and the United States. Maybe the West should start wondering whether Europe and the United States can survive if they allow the terrorists to succeed in Israel. In this new century, the "West" is no longer a matter of geography. The West is defined by societies committed to freedom and democracy. That at least is how the terrorists see it. And if the West is serious about meeting this challenge, it should expand the only military alliance committed to the defense of the West to include those on the front lines of this war. That means bringing countries such as Israel into NATO. More support coming from the West will certainly increase Israels detterence.

the punchline at the end of Haber's monologue, just doesn't make sense and, in fact, probably invalidates his whole article. The use of "arrogant" doesn't apply to Israel and neither does "homeland" given the two very different contexts between our country and apartheid South Africa run by Dutch settlers.

The settelment problem is one of many similar problems we all face these days. However, all these problems have one source: religion. I have never visited Israel before, but i cant help but notice that the vast majority of settlers are from the unltra-orthodox jews who assert the biblical Jewish connection to the areas in dispute, arguing that their claim to build is equal to the biblical Jewish connection to the other areas in Israel. The choice will not be between the settlers and the world as the author suggested. Israel will have to choose between reason and madness, between modernism and backwardness, between secularism and dogmatism, between ethics and religion. Ethical motivation is based on ideas of right and wrong , while religion is based on greed (the heaven) and fear (the hell), hence religion contradicts with ethics and reason. The following quotation from the Nobel prize winning physicist Steven Weinberg: “With or without [religion] you’d have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, it takes religion"

because we are weak to defend ourselves properly... The idea of leaving our 'settlements' for our good is to be of our making. It should not be done because the world is more interested in the survival of terrorists and appeasement rather than Jews. We can not be ordered to do so on false premise based on hate, fear and false beliefs. When will we understand that peace will come when our neighbors choose to be citizens of the world rather than citizens of Jihad? If we were to walk from our ancestral soil this moment handing it over to those who refuse to change their charter of death, nothing will change. Gaza being the best example of that. We are surrounded because the world hates Jews for the most part. It is built into their genetic make-up. How else can the victim be turned into the pariah of all times?? Mr. Haber I ask you where are our partners in peace? What is their contribution? Tell me about the sacrifices they are making. (except the sacrifice of holding off to throw us to the sea or blast our loved ones to smithereens) When people complain quite vocally that Israel receives billions from the US, none of those people care what Israel gives back in comparison to what Egypt or Jordan for instance give back. Matter of fact, they give back next to nothing. My point being, facts mean crap...nothing. No one wants to hear it. We have no partners in peace except the ones the rest of the world choose to protect for all the wrong reasons. The world has chosen to view us with preconceived tunnel vision. We are surrounded not because of what we do and what we don't do, but because of who we are.

Until the Palestinians have a leader who can make peace Israel has little to worry about from those who would count us out. Even when Clinton offered Arafat all he wanted he was turned down. Even when Olmert offered Abbas all he wanted he was turned down. So Israel is counted out by the Muslim rubber stamp body called the UN. Israel will still be here and will not have anything forced upon us as even if Obama forced Bibi to a deal the Palestinian leadership would turn it down.

First I have no love for these torah fanatics who don't do idf service. Thye should forcibly do their obligatioins and not escape their duties like one of olmert's sons, unless evidence indicates some medical condition. Oslo did not work and if rabin had survived, my hunch is that rabin would have shipped arafat back to tunisia. Haber is entitled to think how he wants. This is an absolute pacifist. In israel, you cannot be a pacifist, not in the midst of 300 million arabs. No, haber chooses the world and then what haber. Obama will sell israel out, eu has no use for israel period, Turkey has gone ottomon with their 80 million islamics, and goldstone sits positioned to condemn israel in the next war. If Goldstone had his way in 48,56,67,73, Israel would have lost each war as it is impossible to fight and hold ground the way he suggests. So, israel should go it alone,s tock up and stop crying like haber with obamania. the antisemitism of the last 8 mnonths is tied to Obama's distancing from israel which is his right. As a supporter of israel, I trust no one but a few generals and some mks. the rest of the world is intrustworthy and will sell israel out in a second.

They so love to hold onto what they regard as theirs, and hold and hold and hold and choke and choke and choke. Come on, there's so much more to life!

Will the world try to impose a xenophobic Arab agenda that doesn't even consider that Israel has a right to exist over a dispute of some 50 sq miles of territory dispute? Get real. Obama realizes and too late perhaps that the unrealistic and arrogant demands for a freeze of all development in Jewish communities is simply not acceptable to the government here. Will or can the US treat Israel more severely than Iran or North Korea when the stakes are so much smaller? Haber like to force that, but Obama is not delusional as is Haber.

there will be no accupier on all land of Israel - Judea, Samaria, Gaza, Jordan, Lebanon. The moslems must go back to Mecca.

Israelis seem to have chosen expanding their settlements over peace. Israel will pay the consequences, rightfully-so. No matter what you say, there is NO JUSTIFICATION WHATSOEVER for building Jewish settlements in the West Bank on land the Palestinians need and seek for a viable independent State which the ENTIRE WORLD supports. NO JUSTIFICATION.

The difference is that if we turn from the Gentile first, we will have the Almighty as the immediate staff and our comfort. If not, we will have neither the Gentile nor, for a terrible stage, the Almighty. For so long as the Jew has even one ally, he will be convinced - in his smallness of mind - that his salvation came from that ally. It is only when he is alone - against all of his own efforts and frantic attempts - that he will, through no choice, be compelled to turn to G-d.

for the conflict in the Middle East, so why should they be the solution?

Sometimes it's how one phrases the question. It's a trick every pollster well understands. That Haber poses the choice as either Obama or Wallerstein, we know exactly where he wants to lead us. But his thesis is a crock. Obama can't deliver peace because Israel's enemies aren't prepared to accept its premises. Heck, Obama can't seem to understand and promote the US' own interests, much less those of Israel. And however much one might object to Wallerstein's approach, it does proclaim that Israel has historic and legal rights too, and it should be prepared to defend them.

You are right in your analysis. Time to face facts, and join the modern world. All people are created equal, jews have no special rights over non-jews. America has paid a heavy price protecting Israel, now its time for israel to accept the arabs in their control as full citizens. Let the natives vote, pi, 2 states, 1 country.

Until Israel feels the pressure that the IDF could lose a war then why back down from making Israel greater and pushing the Muslims out. Time is not on Israel's side but many feel that settlements are too far along to turn back now and only option for peace is to remove Muslims but that could lead to end of Israel in 10 or 20yrs.

well written and unfortunately VERY true.

majorities in both Houses. By 2013 there will be an American President, not a jihadist like b.o. Hopefully we will have an Israeli President in Israel, not a world appeaser like peres.

territories do their I.D.F. service, at least the men do in combat units. rabin would have done nothing. Polls showed that he would have lost by a great margin against bibi. If rabin would have cared about Israel,he never would have signed the oslo death accords and had those Israeli that met with the p.l.o. arrested. That was the law then and abie nathan sat in prison for violating it. He also would have fired peres!

What is the connection between Haber and reality, I do not know. If the settlers are the problem, why did the Arabs start the 1967 war of extermination? Why was the PLO founded in 1964 with a goal to destroy Israel? Why is it that since the 1920s the Arabs ethnically cleanse every bit of territory under their control of Jews who have lived there for thousands of years, be it in Jerusalem, Shiloah or Hebron? Haber should notice that while he differentiates between "good Jews" (himself) and "bad Jews" (the settlers), no one else does. Just think, the extreme Left calls for boycotting products from "settlers", and at the end the boycott is of Israel. The extreme Left calls for attacking "settlers" and at the end rockets fall on Beer Sheva and Haifa, and suicide bombs explode in Tel Aviv. The extreme Left ethnically cleanse the "settlers" and their leaders Barak, Olmert and Livni are condemned as war criminals.

Is Odumba or life. If we listen to Odumba we are dead. I choose life. Odumba and company can take a flying leap at a rolling dougnut.

my friend iam not from the west as a geography or sociaty and sure iam not from terrorists do you think iam not presented as a body or soul or any thing lastly it is led not lod it means -see or notice

yes as they have no gaz or electricity or water to cook i think the white flag would mean the kafan in this situation

sir. god is for all the people but obama will not